Flacco Speed envy?

[cushrinada1986]

After reading this, I would not be surprised if there is a push for a speed guy in the first 3 rounds. I hope they pull the trigger on Will Fuller or Caroo tbh:

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/pittsburgh-steelers-baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-speed-envy-012216

[PolishRifle]

I wouldn't call it "speed envy". More like recevier envy. Big Ben, Dalton, even the guy that Browns will end up drafting will have stud receivers to throw the ball to. Joe has aging veterans, role players and a very decent #3 WR. It's time to fix that.

[JoeyFlex5]

polish said it. 

 

if perriman is healthy, then there will be absolutely no speed envy, that boy brings enough deep presence on his own to scare a whole defense, even though he hasnt played a snap he will have the defenses respect. 

 

what he wants, i think, is a show of good faith from the organization that they dont plan to just trot him out there doomed for failure. we watched him go out and get destroyed because we tried to field an OL whose depth consisted of practice squad caliber swing guys, we watched him regress heavily because we overinvested in our TEs and put all our eggs in the perriman/smitty basket. what he wants is stability, and continuity, and to sum all of it up, i think he wants "comfort". he wants to be able to drop back without thinking about tearing his ACL on any given snap, he wants to be able to let it rip without worrying about a wr slipping or running the wrong route or not breaking on the ball or having no ball skills, he wants to be feel like he doesnt have to carry the entire offense on his shoulders to make up for the lack of talent around him.

[Deflated Football]

He's being extremely modest in that article. Everyone and their mother knows that Flacco needs more weapons, whether that's a speedy deep threat or a reliable pair of hands to make the tough catches. Let's be real here: while BP has all the potential in the world, he's an unknown on the NFL field, then we move on to Senior, while tough and reliable, can and will drop a few here and there, not to mention he's going to be 37 coming off a very serious injury.  After them, we have Aiken, Camp and Matthews and some other camp fodders. It's just not enough. 

 

Remember when we picked Ramon Harewood one pick before Antonio Brown? Good times. 

Edited January 26, 2016 by Deflated Football

[PurpleCity5]

It never hurts to have more than one guy who can get behind a defense. I like the idea of Breshad being our primary deep threat but it never hurts to have someone else out there who can push a safety back. 

[PurpleCity5]

19 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

He's being extremely modest in that article. Everyone and their mother knows that Flacco needs more weapons, whether that's a speedy deep threat or a reliable pair of hands to make the tough catches. Let's be real here: while BP has all the potential in the world, he's an unknown on the NFL field, then we move on to Senior, while tough and reliable, can and will drop a few here and there, not to mention he's going to be 37 coming off a very serious injury.  After them, we have Aiken, Camp and Matthews and some other camp fodders. It's just not enough. 

 

Remember when we picked Ramon Harewood one pick before Antonio Brown? Good times. 

We really need to do a better job at scouting WRs as a whole. When Torrey Smith is your only WR drafted to reach 1,000 yards then it tells a story about your offense. I think its obvious that we don't do a good job at finding WR via the draft. 

[Deflated Football]

2 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

We really need to do a better job at scouting WRs as a whole. When Torrey Smith is your only WR drafted to reach 1,000 yards then it tells a story about your offense. I think its obvious that we don't do a good job at finding WR via the draft. 

Agreed 100%. Whoever's been in charge of scouting WR's should've lost his job a long time ago. 

[PurpleCity5]

Just now, Deflated Football said:

Agreed 100%. Whoever's been in charge of scouting WR's should've lost his job a long time ago. 

I don't think there is a guy who is in charge of one group to scout, but I certainly think we could benefit by adding someone who has an eye for finding WRs, goodness we need help there.

[PolishRifle]

37 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

He's being extremely modest in that article. Everyone and their mother knows that Flacco needs more weapons, whether that's a speedy deep threat or a reliable pair of hands to make the tough catches. Let's be real here: while BP has all the potential in the world, he's an unknown on the NFL field, then we move on to Senior, while tough and reliable, can and will drop a few here and there, not to mention he's going to be 37 coming off a very serious injury.  After them, we have Aiken, Camp and Matthews and some other camp fodders. It's just not enough. 

 

Remember when we picked Ramon Harewood one pick before Antonio Brown? Good times. 

BP is basically a 2nd season rookie. He's also a workout warrior, who jumped up the draft boards thanks to a great workout, which makes him a risky draft pick. He has a ton of potential, but we are yet to see if it translates. He's definetly no Amari Cooper, where you just know, that he's gonna be great.

Edited January 26, 2016 by PolishRifle

[edthehead]

well, when you have TREADWELL in our face

then it is time to appease joe, imo he is asking politely,

I will help the team with a new deal, but the team needs to help me and the team.

we have always struck out with WR, but this early is a no brainer.

we can go all defense later but get joe his man

1st or 2nd round, no 3rd or later 

[Tank 92]

But Joe, everyone knows as a $120 mil. QB you shouldn't need speedy, talented WRs. You should be able to make any of them as good as they need to be! 

[PolishRifle]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

But Joe, everyone knows as a $120 mil. QB you shouldn't need speedy, talented WRs. You should be able to make any of them as good as they need to be! 

Yeah, because losing Jordy Nelson didn't affect Aaron Rodgers at all.

[Ravenslifer]

6 hours ago, cushrinada1986 said:

After reading this, I would not be surprised if there is a push for a speed guy in the first 3 rounds. I hope they pull the trigger on Will Fuller or Caroo tbh:

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/pittsburgh-steelers-baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-speed-envy-012216

 

PolishRifle and JoeyFlex5 already alluded to the point I'd make - I don't think Joe would be necessarily envious of "speed', but of other quarterbacks having "the guy" on offense.  Think Brady and Gronk, Ryan and Jones, Manning and Thomas, Stafford and Megatron, Ben and Brown, Eli and Beckham, Dalton and Green, Romo and Bryant, Wilson and Graham, Rodgers and Nelson, etc.  Whenever you mention the top quarterbacks, every single one of them has "the guy" to throw to,  Cam Newton might be the exception without Kelvin Benjamin, but Benjamin would be "the guy" for Cam.  Maybe it will be Perriman for Joe; it probably would have been Dennis Pitta had he been healthy.  But it's clear that (like SSS was in 2014) the better statistical quarterbacks in the league all have a guy they can just throw it up for grabs to and know he'll come down with it 9 times out of 10.

[cushrinada1986]

15 hours ago, Ravenslifer said:

 

PolishRifle and JoeyFlex5 already alluded to the point I'd make - I don't think Joe would be necessarily envious of "speed', but of other quarterbacks having "the guy" on offense.  Think Brady and Gronk, Ryan and Jones, Manning and Thomas, Stafford and Megatron, Ben and Brown, Eli and Beckham, Dalton and Green, Romo and Bryant, Wilson and Graham, Rodgers and Nelson, etc.  Whenever you mention the top quarterbacks, every single one of them has "the guy" to throw to,  Cam Newton might be the exception without Kelvin Benjamin, but Benjamin would be "the guy" for Cam.  Maybe it will be Perriman for Joe; it probably would have been Dennis Pitta had he been healthy.  But it's clear that (like SSS was in 2014) the better statistical quarterbacks in the league all have a guy they can just throw it up for grabs to and know he'll come down with it 9 times out of 10.

You could say Cam and Olsen tbh. And you are right, Flacco just needs his version of "the guy". I feel the reason for speed is because theres more chance of big plays down field and PI calls as well. Flacco can hit any part of the field with his arm and to have a speedster that can split a defense and go yard would make more use of his arm then a big bodied guy who can grab 10 - 15 yards at a time. Thats why I hope Will Fuller, Sterling Sheppard, Or Caroo end up on our roster next season.

[ellicottraven]

17 hours ago, Ravenslifer said:

 

PolishRifle and JoeyFlex5 already alluded to the point I'd make - I don't think Joe would be necessarily envious of "speed', but of other quarterbacks having "the guy" on offense.  Think Brady and Gronk, Ryan and Jones, Manning and Thomas, Stafford and Megatron, Ben and Brown, Eli and Beckham, Dalton and Green, Romo and Bryant, Wilson and Graham, Rodgers and Nelson, etc.  Whenever you mention the top quarterbacks, every single one of them has "the guy" to throw to,  Cam Newton might be the exception without Kelvin Benjamin, but Benjamin would be "the guy" for Cam.  Maybe it will be Perriman for Joe; it probably would have been Dennis Pitta had he been healthy.  But it's clear that (like SSS was in 2014) the better statistical quarterbacks in the league all have a guy they can just throw it up for grabs to and know he'll come down with it 9 times out of 10.

So Joe and SSR amount to nothing?

[usmccharles]

4 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

So Joe and SSR amount to nothing?

Season and a half? And one more season. You need continuity, Chemistry. We all love SSr,  but he was at the end of his career coming here when most thought he were done.  Most of the qb/wr combos with the WR being drafted by the team.. 

[ellicottraven]

34 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Season and a half? And one more season. You need continuity, Chemistry. We all love SSr,  but he was at the end of his career coming here when most thought he were done.  Most of the qb/wr combos with the WR being drafted by the team.. 

Oh okay...

[Jaybirds]

Based on how we used Pitta, and how Trestman used Martellus Bennett a few years back, I'd say the plan is for Maxx Williams to be Our Guy much the way Gronk and Graham became primary targets.  Perriman's role is to take the top off the defense, but that may be all we expect.  Sure, we like having a "#1 guy" like Smith or Boldin.   But overall I think The Plan is already in place, it just hasn't come to fruition yet.  That's different than there is no plan or it never will work.