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[News] Will Ravens Re-Sign Wide Receiver Chris Givens?

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Need to keep Givens, plus getting more WRs and the Ravens are not utilizing the ones they have already correctly to the best of their abilities would be a waste! "UTILIZATION" is the key and not wasting money!

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I think they should keep Givens. We need to do what the Steelers have at Wrs Speeders and Perriman and Givens would give us a 1 2 punch at speed along with Steve Smith and another all round reciever. I wish we could get Jeffery he will be perfect for Marc Trestman. Then our recievers could be Steve Smith and Jeffery as 1 and 2 and have Perriman and Givens as 3 and 4 reciever or you could put Steve Smith as number 3 in slot positions because he older. That would give multiple recievers for Joe and they could have 4 or 5 reciever sets more often :-)

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Givens is useless!! He is not as fast as he was as a rookie and there is no savvyness to his routes. The rams need receivers and threw him in the dumpster. He was a feeble, cheap attempt to acquire a playmaker!!

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Givens is useless!! He is not as fast as he was as a rookie and there is no savvyness to his routes. The rams need receivers and threw him in the dumpster. He was a feeble, cheap attempt to acquire a playmaker!!

his rookie season was only 3 years ago....

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Let him test FA and if he's still available he can join us for camp, whether or not he's back for next season depends on the draft and what else we do in FA. His speed brings something to the table at least but he didn't provide enough to keep a spot on the team. He got flat out outplayed by Butler and we don't have enough spots to keep every WR.

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considering he was only here for 12 games and we had 4 different QBs it might take him a little time to get used to our system, our routes, our QB and to heal. Give the guy a break.

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I'd keep him and let him mature into our game plan. Really liked his grit and skill set, fits that of a slot short to intermediate pass catcher. He won't break the bank and showed good hands when thrown to.

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I suppose it is possible .... but I don't see where he set himself apart from the army of other marginal WRs we were trying to use. We'll look to retain Aiken, then we'll look at the guys we already have under contract along with the guys that are going to cost virtually nothing (such as ERFAs) to keep and see if there is any need to sign Givens to a minimal deal and let him compete for a spot.

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Sorry Chris but no place on this team for a WR that won't go across the middle and can only run 9 routes. You've been on 2 teams with no WRs and have yet to make any sort of impact on either.

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We should let him walk in free agency.I'm hoping the team is high on Treadwell and that he falls to the 6th pick and we draft him.If that happens,we'll have Smitty,Treadwell,Aiken and Perriman at the top 4 spots and I don't think he'd be willing to fight for a 5th spot with Brown,Camp,Butler and Kaelin Clay.Plus,even if we don't add Treadwell,we're more than likely going to add someone and probably would rather go to a team that he has a better chance of seeing the field with.I think that's why he wanted to leave the Rams anyway.

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I think they should keep Givens. We need to do what the Steelers have at Wrs Speeders and Perriman and Givens would give us a 1 2 punch at speed along with Steve Smith and another all round reciever. I wish we could get Jeffery he will be perfect for Marc Trestman. Then our recievers could be Steve Smith and Jeffery as 1 and 2 and have Perriman and Givens as 3 and 4 reciever or you could put Steve Smith as number 3 in slot positions because he older. That would give multiple recievers for Joe and they could have 4 or 5 reciever sets more often :-)

He's coming here. (Someone like him) I can feel it in my bones. I think Trestman will have a lot of input and will help them select a viable couple of receivers. Givens just has to be pushed a little bit more.

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We should let him walk in free agency.I'm hoping the team is high on Treadwell and that he falls to the 6th pick and we draft him.If that happens,we'll have Smitty,Treadwell,Aiken and Perriman at the top 4 spots and I don't think he'd be willing to fight for a 5th spot with Brown,Camp,Butler and Kaelin Clay.Plus,even if we don't add Treadwell,we're more than likely going to add someone and probably would rather go to a team that he has a better chance of seeing the field with.I think that's why he wanted to leave the Rams anyway.

We really don't have too.  If he didn't pan out during camp then sure. And it shouldn't cost much. I have seen gleamers of hope in him. If someone else expressed interest in him and his agent countered the offer with us then we'll just see it fits. 

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I like what I saw from some of our guys this year but my only issue is the that with SSS, we know he is gone by next year. We are still not sure what we have in Waller, Butler, and Matthews. In addition, we are not sure if Camp can last an entire season, and to be honest, Aiken would vanish during games before he was forced into the #1 WR position this year. Theres good arguments to possibly blow up the bottom half and try again in the draft and FA but I think we do have some really good parts on offense. I would like to see what Givens can do when healthy, so keeping him another year isnt not too bad of an idea. Besides, if he works out, he can help fill out the roster when SSS hangs it up.

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Too many drops to be on the field. Perriman will more than replace his speed and we should add another burner in the draft. Look at what the Steelers have done at WR Ozzie. Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, Martavis Bryant, Sammie Coates will be their next steal. You don't have to spend a 1st Round Pick to get a star in this league. Speed and Work Ethic can be found on Day 2 and 3 as well...

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Sorry Chris but no place on this team for a WR that won't go across the middle and can only run 9 routes. You've been on 2 teams with no WRs and have yet to make any sort of impact on either.

i have questions:

1) what is this obsession you people have with receviers going across the middle?

2) do you not realize that every receiver cant be in the middle?

Chris Givens is an outside receiver that usually only lined up on 3 wide sets.

if he's "going across the middle" then where, pray tell, are the tight end, running back, and slot receiver supposed to go?

yall dont make any sense.

why would you waste speed like Givens' by sending him into traffic where he has little shot of getting open no matter where he goes? you cant outrun anybody in the middle of the field, thats where ALL the defenders are.

3) Where do you people get this stuff from anyway?

Chris Givens' splits:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15078/chris-givens

of his meager 19 receptions with the team:

3 right side

2 middle

1 left side

2 behind the line of scrimmage

8 left sideline. (deep shots...which, as Matt Schaub seems to have trouble learning, you dont take down the middle of the field because thats a surefire recipe for a pick.)

of course, the locations of his receptions (read SUCCESSFUL targets) and the locations of his (overall) targets are two different things.

But again...its a moot point because if we run every receier through the middle every down, we'd never move the ball.

thats not how football works.

There's a number of decent arguments you can make both for and against resigning him, but this is not one of them.

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I can't call this... The Ravens are going to have to escape this backup for the backup mentality. Its a nice idea, but just not reasonable... Breshad Perriman needs a back up if he gets hurt (At this point Chris Givens remember when we started the season without one). Just like Terrell Suggs this season, just like all the CB's before him. Zadaqrius was in his first year so I didn't expect Pernell Mcphee numbers. Those results just don't happen everytime. Arthur Jones is getting old if anything, replace him not Terrell. Don't draft an OLB because Zadarius did good considering he had to replace the production of one of the best to ever play at that position. If anything their shouldn't have been any O-line talk but the players who stepped up the year before got hurt (Eugene Monroe before him Bryant McKinnie) and backups didn't step up. The point I'm making is if you keep playing for your old success how can you build a future team.The Ravens offense is so predictable from a team layout for success. It goes No.1 receiver veteran (Derrick Mason, Anquain Boldin, Steve Smith) no.2 receiver burner Torrey Smith, Breshad Perriman, no. 3 receiver is always supposed to be the veteran that supposed to be in the slot at the beginning of the season tat ends up being the no. 1. All our other receivers are supposed to be unique. A prime example campanaro supposed to specifically be a slot no. 3 receiver. Catch 22. is outside of him and Steve Smith, Joe can't depend on anyone to make plays consistently deep down the field. We as fans are expecting the smallest guys to make plays like a bigger receiver. Another receiver at least being a burner (Givens in this case, Demetrius Williams before him). I say stop that trend by drafting Laquon Treadwell over anyone else at any position for this reason alone. He is the answer to you getting the guy you need instead of bringing in veterans all the time. The Ravens organization would finally be giving fans what they want in a player that has the size and can go up and make the play. He is not a burner and doesn't have to be. Just a playmaker that will make the catch when thrown his way. Look at his highlight all I see is him out jumping the defender despite little to no separation. Rather due to good coverage or just poorly thrown passes and still got the job done. That what we are really after at WR in a true no.1 and that kind of describes the play of our veteran WR that end up being our No.1. It would be poor of us as fans to tell our franchise to pick someone else. Reason why is if Dez Bryant, A.J. Green, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald was available tomorrow and we could get them via free agency. We wouldn't jump on the opportunity, so the only possible way the Baltimore will ever get that caliber WR is through DRAFT. All the other positions we needed to draft we acquired starter talent in later rounds (Marshall Yanda best guard in football 5th round, Ladarius Webb 4th round). End your offensive woes, Ramsey, Bosa, Stanley are great players, but this is something that needs to happen right now with that no. 6 pick.You can't say the same thing at WR it is our greatest PRIORITY since 1997! You take no risk trading back being greedy because you don't know when that quality of player will present himself again (Dez Bryant was one pick from a black and purple)!!! Really we aren't a big free agency team to cover up the fact we work in so many packages as a team. We would go broke acquiring talent like that via free agency. We get years of high quality via draft at a cheaper price. Essentially as an organization we have decided its easier to draft a player for a few years to keep our starters for more years and give them breaks in between downs. If they are decent we will offer them an okay contract, but will let them walk to other teams. Which is a lot different from the rest of the league where everybody wants to have an outstanding player (not realistic the talent and the salary cap creates conflict) and thinks our backups were future starters, but in all actuality they just fit well into our system. Moving along in the future, we need to decide are we drafting to win championships or are we drafting to maintain because you can't have it both ways...

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Too many drops to be on the field. Perriman will more than replace his speed and we should add another burner in the draft. .

 Perriman is likely to replace his drops as well. 

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Sorry Chris but no place on this team for a WR that won't go across the middle and can only run 9 routes. 

 That awkward moment when you realized you've just described Perriman. LOL

Besides,  That's what slots and TEs are for. We've already made a mess of the place trying to turn a speedster into a  shifty route runner with Smith. You just have to let speed do what speed does.  

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 Perriman is likely to replace his drops as well. 

This is highly over played.  Most of his drops happened in the earlier part of the season when he was adjusting to a new QB, who was barely accurate with him.  After that he was mostly fine.  I think you and many people on BR are going to be pleasantly surprised by Perriman.

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 That awkward moment when you realized you've just described Perriman. LOL

Besides,  That's what slots and TEs are for. We've already made a mess of the place trying to turn a speedster into a  shifty route runner with Smith. You just have to let speed do what speed does.  

That really awkward moment when you realize a speedster can't get past the press coverage of a single mediocre Cornerback and can't get open no matter how fast he is. Easy to game plan against him - "who's our sorriest corner? Ok, you're on Givens for the game, we can double cover all of the other guys now."

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i have questions:

1) what is this obsession you people have with receviers going across the middle?

2) do you not realize that every receiver cant be in the middle?

Chris Givens is an outside receiver that usually only lined up on 3 wide sets.

if he's "going across the middle" then where, pray tell, are the tight end, running back, and slot receiver supposed to go?

yall dont make any sense.

why would you waste speed like Givens' by sending him into traffic where he has little shot of getting open no matter where he goes? you cant outrun anybody in the middle of the field, thats where ALL the defenders are.

3) Where do you people get this stuff from anyway?

Chris Givens' splits:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15078/chris-givens

of his meager 19 receptions with the team:

3 right side

2 middle

1 left side

2 behind the line of scrimmage

8 left sideline. (deep shots...which, as Matt Schaub seems to have trouble learning, you dont take down the middle of the field because thats a surefire recipe for a pick.)

of course, the locations of his receptions (read SUCCESSFUL targets) and the locations of his (overall) targets are two different things.

But again...its a moot point because if we run every receier through the middle every down, we'd never move the ball.

thats not how football works.

There's a number of decent arguments you can make both for and against resigning him, but this is not one of them.

It's easy, if you are an outside speed receiver but you can't beat mediocre cornerbacks in press coverage then you are no use. Unless you take that speedy receiver and put him in the slot where he can get open (in the space in the middle: google  coverage schemes). Why do you think that Antonio Brown plays in the slot even though he was originally an "outside speed receiver". Why don't the squealers just play him on the outside where he can use his speed? The Saints must be foolish to play one of the fastest WR in the NFL (Cooks) in multiple positions including the slot - why isn't he just lining up outside? I mean if "ALL the defenders are in the middle of the field", that should be a touchdown every time, right?

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Triple " S ", Givens, Perriman, Aiken,Brown, Campy sounds good to me Ryan, won with less! Forgot a couple names that played good towards the end but we good at wideout! We need a CB #1 pick in the draft and continue to use that "BIRDSEYE" for future talent like the Ravens are good at doing! Givens will pay "DIVIDENDS" if used correctly!

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To keep or not to keep Givens is another way of asking what is the drafting strategy going forward. The falling off of the draft results over the last seven or eight seasons reflects a change in personnel policy. I don't believe that's Ozzie's input. Things took a bit of a turn whether different voices had more power, or simply the turnover in coaching or scouting diluted the formula. There's also a lack of a strategy in terms of the team identity. To even be discussing Givens like the '16 season depends on him, or on Campo is ridiculous. Treadwell? I can't imagine an easier decision in Florida than the one where everyone said not after last year. And not before we get Perriman on the field in a game getting balls from Joe. The first thing they do is figure out if they can keep KO after Joe's contract is renegotiated. Then they can figure where they get an offensive lineman because Hurst is not the answer. Then they need corner. An OLB for the future even if Za' played well. They're not getting younger out there. A DE. This is all obvious. I just hope Oz gets back to the way he used to run the show and the rest of them settle down.

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