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[News] Eisenberg: Fact & Opinion On Leslie Frazier, Joe Flacco, Playoffs

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We don't need a "turnovers coach." We need to get to the QB fast with a 4 and 5 man rush, and corners that know how to look back and catch the football when it is in the air. 

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We have to play better technique on the back end. we als really need more speed in our linebacker group. Mosely and Smith are both essentially Mikes. We need Mosley to take over the mike position and get a speed Will backer that can cover the middle of the field . Also we have to figure out something with our Outside linebakcers. It hurts me to see Doom and Upshaw drop into coverage and cover RB's and slot recievers when we run zone out of our Base d. Upshaw has eaten his way into a three pint stance . I wold use him as a 5 technique over guy next to Williams and Timmy.

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interceptions are wonderful, but there are ways to work around pass rushers. coverage sacks are when i'll know that our secondary has really improved.

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"The evolutionary wheels are going to be turning soon, and the Ravens are positioned well with Flacco, who just turned 31." .. true !

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My guess is that it would probably cost the Ravens more to renegotiate Joe's contract than to let the existing agreement ride. Well IMO Joe should prepare himself to shine this coming season because he flopped in 2015!!!!!!!!!!

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The only cure for the secondary is for the Defense to rush four no more than five and spread out the other players like they did to stop the squeelers! D. Smith got his INT reading the QB eyes that game and everyone played lites out football! This is an easy fix, it doesn't take a rocket scientist!

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The days of blitzing have to be put on the back burner because you blitz you die "ESPECIALLY " when your secondary is under construction sorta speak! Big ben waited for the Ravens to blitz in the last match up and the Ravens got "TREMENDOUS" pressure from the the Fanatic Four it shut him down! Ed Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeed is gone so pointing fingers isn't necessary just play the nickel or rush four no more than five and it's a WRAP!

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I would rephrase the last sentence to say "The Baltimore Ravens need to raise their game". That is all that matters to me period. In fact, I would love it if we have a run of the North much like NE has in the East.

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Wow fans are really naive to think if Joe comes out like he did last year and throws three interception in the first two games and the Ravens are 0-2 that fans will not start the "Put Mallett in" Here is how the NFL will start the Ravens scheduled. First game away New England, 2nd Pitts, 3rd away Dallas.

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Look out Joe there is someone on your heals and their just waiting for you to throw one of those dumb passes.

 

lol, 9 negs with 8 members posting comments

 

Sounds like your opinions aren't shared ;)

 

While I would agree that Mallet looked good hitting multiple targets, threading passes in tight windows and such... but make no mistake Flacco is still our guy

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Wow fans are really naive to think if Joe comes out like he did last year and throws three interception in the first two games and the Ravens are 0-2 that fans will not start the "Put Mallett in" Here is how the NFL will start the Ravens scheduled. First game away New England, 2nd Pitts, 3rd away Dallas.

 

So if any player has a 2 game stretch of bad performance, cut him? Come on man, did you forget the playoff run he had against the best teams and threw 11 touchdowns and if memory serves me correct 1 interception? Has Mallet done that?

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So if any player has a 2 game stretch of bad performance, cut him? Come on man, did you forget the playoff run he had against the best teams and threw 11 touchdowns and if memory serves me correct 1 interception? Has Mallet done that?

Zero interceptions*... People seem to think Baltimore has a quarterback controversy. Flacco is our franchise quarterback and a lot more good comes with him starting than bad. Starting anyone else would not benefit our offense.

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"Turnovers Coach"....  I love it.

 

And, no, I don't believe fans will be calling for Mallet over Joe....  That's just ridiculous.  No comparison whatsoever.

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Zero interceptions*... People seem to think Baltimore has a quarterback controversy. Flacco is our franchise quarterback and a lot more good comes with him starting than bad. Starting anyone else would not benefit our offense.

Thank you....

Correct...  I started to post that before I was interrupted...  There were NO INT's during that SB run.

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Wow fans are really naive to think if Joe comes out like he did last year and throws three interception in the first two games and the Ravens are 0-2 that fans will not start the "Put Mallett in" Here is how the NFL will start the Ravens scheduled. First game away New England, 2nd Pitts, 3rd away Dallas.

I guess I am one of those naive fans, I wouldn't even think that benching Joe in favor of Mallett a good idea.  Joe isn't perfect, but he is a very good QB and I am glad he is our starter.  I think some are forgetting how hard it is to find a franchise QB in this league and I for one think we have ours for years to come.  He still has one of the best playoff records in the league, 10 wins to 4 losses, and 7 road wins.  Not too shabby...

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Wow fans are really naive to think if Joe comes out like he did last year and throws three interception in the first two games and the Ravens are 0-2 that fans will not start the "Put Mallett in" Here is how the NFL will start the Ravens scheduled. First game away New England, 2nd Pitts, 3rd away Dallas.

 

These are all your speculations.

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"Turnovers Coach"....  I love it.

 

And, no, I don't believe fans will be calling for Mallet over Joe....  That's just ridiculous.  No comparison whatsoever.

 

 

While there isn't any comparison and I agree w/ you that Joe is our guy, If he starts the season off badly, you'd be naive to think fans won't start calling for Mallet over Joe.  Heck you've read some posts on here already calling for it after Mallet's performance vs the Steelers. There were a couple of games this year that had the fans booing very loudly at the team's performance.  

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Right now many Ravens fans are jumping the gun a bit as far as their confidence in this team moving forward. The point is this franchise is in the middle of a transition which has not yet happened for this organization. Historically Ravens have been a defensive powerhouse, with mediocre to average offense. Right now there is shift to move emphasis to offense, and rightly so if you look at where the dollars are being invested. This doesn't mean the defense is going to suffer, just not the priority. When you pay a QB big dollars you need to capitalize on your opportunities. building a true shutdown defense is difficult to do period, yet alone accomplish that feat and build a great offense. If the offense is consistently putting up points and able to control the game via ball possession, it would greatly aid the defense. Lastly, Mallett showed good promise to take over as back up moving forward, but a couple good performances does not justify any controversy for the starting position. Joe has been solid over his pro career and always gives the team a chance to win, even when the odds against him. That is a track record Mallett just can't compete with as of yet.

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The only cure for the secondary is for the Defense to rush four no more than five and spread out the other players like they did to stop the squeelers! D. Smith got his INT reading the QB eyes that game and everyone played lites out football! This is an easy fix, it doesn't take a rocket scientist!

 

Normally I agree with you, but last year that team couldn't get pressure with 4 or even 5 guys... except in the Steelers games (thank you Za'Darius!). Without Suggs, Pernell, or Haloti in there the QBs had way too much time, and the only way to get pressure was to blitz.  The solution is to get more pressure without having to blitz, and once you can do that, you can stop blitzing; not the other way around.

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I'll repeat the Golden rule of 52. It is so important that they play Ray saying it on SiriusXM nfl channel all the time. "Stop the run, get after the quarterback, Heroes baby!"

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So if any player has a 2 game stretch of bad performance, cut him? Come on man, did you forget the playoff run he had against the best teams and threw 11 touchdowns and if memory serves me correct 1 interception? Has Mallet done that?

11- Touch Downs

0 - Interceptions

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One thing to consider with Joe, and yes I do defend him, is almost every game it felt like he was losing a target. He was playing with a different core of guys every week. And even Steve Smith with how many fractured ribs was still starting over healthy younger players. Right there that speaks volumes. You can argue that Schuab, Mallett, and Clausen moved the ball decently with those same depth guys, but they practice with those guys on 2nd and 3rd string teams every day. Just looking at how Aaron Rodgers looked all year without Jordy Nelson alone proves that targets a huge part of an offense. Sure Flacco makes mistakes, but I don't think it has been enough like Kaepernick or several of the other quarterbacks in the NFL to get benched. If he can get 11 touchdowns and zero interceptions with AnQuan Boldin, Torrey Smith, and Jacoby Jones, all of which are now 2nd or lower on each respective roster, think if we actually got him an AJ Green, Antonio Brown, or another receiver he can rely on. Yes Steve Smith was high in the league in yardage and he played well before going down but after that the offense all bogged down and no one else can get open. Aiken did well in his time in a #1 role but how much did he actually get open before Steve Smith Sr. went down? A 37 year old should not be our #1 target going into next season.

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In regard to the talk on this board of trading back...I hope we don't trade back! In the time that we drafted Torrey Smith, the Bengals and the Steelers drafted SO many number one receivers. The Steelers parted with Mike Wallace to have Antonio Brown seamlessly step in, then Brown goes down and Martavius Bryant steps right in. It's maddening that we can't draft one receiver! Having a stout front 7 is of course important, but it really gets frustrating seeing our rivals succeed on a receiver driven formula. Perhaps Perriman is a No. 1, but there have been plenty of opportunities outside of the first round to draft receivers that other teams have turned into number ones in the past several years. I always trust our front office to get it done, so I'm definitely speaking as a lay-person fan right now in saying please go for playmakers with this years high draft picks! Don't trade back and stockpile unless it's for first round picks in ensuing years. The success ratio hasn't measured up to our rivals in the past four years or so, and it's starting to show on the field. Use the draft stock to grab some lock playmakers, please!

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True...  but what most don't understand is that Joe was having a decent year, except for that pesky INT stat, considering he really doesn't throw that many unless he's pressured....  and by the way, which was much better than previously when he and Eli were vying for most thrown.  AND the fact that most of his offensive team was missing from action as well....  Get him on the field with some tools and weapons and I think you see a different player.  It took half the year to even get the line in order....  let alone backs and receivers.

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True...  but what most don't understand is that Joe was having a decent year, except for that pesky INT stat, considering he really doesn't throw that many unless he's pressured....  and by the way, which was much better than previously when he and Eli were vying for most thrown.  AND the fact that most of his offensive team was missing from action as well....  Get him on the field with some tools and weapons and I think you see a different player.  It took half the year to even get the line in order....  let alone backs and receivers.

Add on he was on pace to break his own regular season record of touchdowns and passing yards before going down.... 

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Turnover Coach! I like that. (You like that?!!) I wonder if that's what Harbaugh said that or if it's just what Eisenberg thinks? More impact if Harbaugh thinks that way.

@Nevermorebmore - I don't like trading back for more picks either. They are just more souls to be cut at a later date. Rather go with quality not quantity. High draft picks have better odds of being playmakers. Unfortunately, I think Jalen, Bosa, etc. will go before our pick and we will trade back.

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laughed at the last line of the article.. the only way the North can be more competitive is if the Browns finally did the right thing, quit trying to pretend they are a pro football team, and sold the franchise to another owner who relocates it anywhere but the "City of Fail". Also helps if the Bengals finally realized that they need a new, 2nd head coach to take over for Lewis after the regular season ends.. then they may actually get out of the 1st playoff game for once.

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Joe will have an excellent chance to better next year because somebody better than James Hurst will be playing left tackle; and that could be almost anybody.

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