[News] Late For Work 1/19: DeSean Jackson And 10 Other Potential Salary-Cap Casualties To Watch

[cbrook1862]

To those of you who say Treadwell round 1, why not Doctson or Michael Thomas Round 2? Will Fuller or Sterling Shepard Round 3? Rashard Higgins will be the greatest sleeper of them all.

Michael Thomas is rated the 2nd best wr in the draft and is projected to go in the 1st round and so is Fuller, but Higgins and Shepard yes.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

While it seems exciting to possibly sign one of these potential cap casualties, I do not see there being a good enough long term value. The Ravens have their respected veteran in SSR and it paid off watching Aiken come into his own. SSR's fiery passion and drive to attack the ball rubbed of on Aiken. Not so mention SSR still rips it up and can play the deep ball well enough. Time to go young with the rest of WR. The cap dollars can be better spent on draft picks.

[steelcityraven]

ROUND 1. Ronnie Stanley -OT- ND

ROUND 2. Kendall Fuller- CB- VTECH

ROUND 3. KeiVarae Russell- CB- ND

ROUND 4. Kyler Fackrell- OLB-UTAH ST

ROUND 5. Kolby Listenbee- WR- TCU

ROUND 6. Anthony Zettel- DE- PSU

ROUND 7. Deon Bush - S - Miami (FLA)

This is assuming that we will not be able to re-sign KO. If we re-sign him... that frees us up to take Alexander or Ramsey in Round 1.

[roamingcharges]

The reason why Desean Jackson won't be a Raven has nothing to do with his ability to catch the football, it's the extra he does. That ill-advised reverse on the return on Monday Night Football, The "drop" at the half yard line while playing for the Eagles (also on Monday Night Football by the way), the sticking of the ball behind him while crossing the pylon and downing the ball at the one instead of a TD in the playoffs this year... those plays are just a few. And when you add this to the fact that he will probably come into the Castle with the air of a pass catching/play-making messiah... oh no.

[NNITRED]

This is interesting and highly conflicting given the Ravens' skewed sermon on how "splash"signings don't work.

[bioLarzen]

This is interesting and highly conflicting given the Ravens' skewed sermon on how "splash"signings don't work.

 

Yep - but the above isn't official Ravens communication, only the speculation of a - probably bored - outside journalist.

[bioLarzen]

Of all the receivers listed only CJ, Jackson and Garcon are worth the the look. IF talks of retirement are not serious by CJ, he'll still command a high salary IF Detroit doesn't resign him or UNLESS he's willing to entertain a shot at a championship for less. I'd prefer Garcon over Jackson. He's a more complete receiver and less of a headache. The rest of that group is either too old or too damage mentally or physically to be a serious candidate given the young inexpensive receivers we now have on roster.

 

Megatron is wishful thiking at best IMHO - if he doesn't retire, I can see no way the Lions let him walk.

[thieverycorporation]

The reason why Desean Jackson won't be a Raven has nothing to do with his ability to catch the football, it's the extra he does. That ill-advised reverse on the return on Monday Night Football, The "drop" at the half yard line while playing for the Eagles (also on Monday Night Football by the way), the sticking of the ball behind him while crossing the pylon and downing the ball at the one instead of a TD in the playoffs this year... those plays are just a few. And when you add this to the fact that he will probably come into the Castle with the air of a pass catching/play-making messiah... oh no.

Jackson can be taught how to be a pro. SSSr would come in handy. The organization stated that if they saw a player that could make them better, well, he'd make us better. So many teams have been dealing with perceived distractions that it may be the new norm. Talent trumps distractions in the x's and O's. The Cowboys had Hardy. Bengals had Burfict. Browns had Manzel. To totally dismiss the idea wouldn't be wise imho. Organizations have had success with reported troubled players that other organizations have parted ways with. I see the pairing of a SSSr and DJax as a workable scenario. Jackson and SSSr would probably hit it off from the standpoint that they like competition, and offer skillset's that are comparable yet vastly different. There's a lot to like about pairing the two. Playing it safe shouldn't be the MO. If the Ravens are serious about adding playmakers they will undoubtedly have to come out of their comfort zone. Getting aging players because cap constraints and not drafting well enough to end the questions marks @ the position has caught up. Some may see as a desperation move. I see it @ a savvy one. Besides DJax wouldn't be getting into too many players or coaches faces around here. Most likely IMO he'd feel welcomed and appreciated. Everyone in the league knows what we need. Ego be dammed.

Edited January 19, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[Halshayeji]

I don't believe I see the type of receiver Ozzie would draft on that list. Look at who he picked up, scrappy, tough yet smart receivers who knew how to get open when their speed was gone (if they ever had speed). The person I find that is most attractive is Victor Cruz but he also has been fighting the injury bug. IMO, we already have a 1st round wr draft pick on the team because Perriman is like having that extra pick next season. Ravens really have no choice except to go cornerback as the pass rusher class is weak after Bosa, the tackles are weak after Tunsel and the receivers are weak after Treadwell. The corners have Ramsey and Hargreaves and if both of them are gone at 6 I would move back and get more picks as every other, than those I mentioned, aren't worth a top 10 pick. Hopefully someone goes after a qb and leaves one of those guys on the board. Bosa, Tunsel, Treadwell, Ramsey and Hargreaves are the only guys I feel are top 10 picks this year. Anyone else is just settling for what we can get...

Great point. If a quarterback falls in the top 5 then il gladly take whose left of the 5 guys you named.

[budkretz]

Thanks to those that provided the info on draft picks. Even though we can't trade comp picks this year, having the 5th through 8th pick in each round and also a late 4th from Denver, Ozzie has the room to maneuver. I see the first two days of the draft and the 4th round is where the Ravens will build the team. Need to get two solid /potential pro bowl players from this draft. If we can get anything out of 5th and 6th round pick it will be a bonus. Just a hunch, but I also see the Ravens signing at least one free agent that comes in and plays soundly (like SSS or Dumervil). If so next year at this time we'll be looking forward to the next Ravens game. Also Kudos on the hiring of Leslie Frazier.

[purpledown]

I would stay away from Smith. He is injury prone and a head case. Jackson is a good hire.

[Ravenslifer]

Garcon, VJax, and Colston would be the three I'd target if they get cut. They're all late-20s/early-30s type guys that could be had for a decent price if they sit on the market a while. Trouble is, I don't expect cuts until after the draft so it's hard to know what teams will do.

[JamesA119]

"desean jackson is the only wr in the nfl that flacco could let it rip with. he is nearly impossible to overthrow unlike Torrey."

How soon we forget. Flacco frequently under threw Jacoby Jones, and also under threw Givens. It's not that he doesn't have the arm strength but his deep ball touch has been off for a while.

[Dfrm410]

Desean Jackson would be pure professional on the Ravens no antics would be tolerated and he would know it

[RavenzOz]

Bengals Players Rejoice In Steelers Loss ... zero and seven boys, zero and seven

[RavensDieHard21]

Desean would be the only semi-realistic great pick up, yet very unlikely with the $ he still commands, along with it harming our comp picks. His speed with Perriman's would help keep the safeties back so that our running game can get going and open up the middle for our TEs.

I also think Calvin is contemplating retiring because he wants to win and wants out of Detroit. At this point his cap # is insane, but if he ever came at a discount, I think any championship team would love to have him. Wishful thinking

[harfordravenfan]

Desean would be the only semi-realistic great pick up, yet very unlikely with the $ he still commands, along with it harming our comp picks. His speed with Perriman's would help keep the safeties back so that our running game can get going and open up the middle for our TEs.

I also think Calvin is contemplating retiring because he wants to win and wants out of Detroit. At this point his cap # is insane, but if he ever came at a discount, I think any championship team would love to have him. Wishful thinking

 

Agreed but a 5-11 team wouldn't be the team he looks at sadly

[Halshayeji]

RMC and Bio. Fell free to respond if you read this.

Is it even feisable to bring in D Jackson? If you ask me, I'd take him in a heartbeat but is it really doable? What would his salary be like and who would we need to get rid of if we bring him in.

T.Smith was let go last season because we weren't willing to caugh up 9mil a year. What makes it so different now? If let's say he's traded to us for a low pick instead of him being cut. Would it help our cap. Just theoretically, the Redskins owe him a few mil so we'd have him for 7 mil a year and probably could extend his contract and spread the cap a bit.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Halshayeji

[RavenzOz]

I don't see this FO every bringing in a big name reciever and paying them top-shelf money, it's just not the way they operate, and it's one of the reasons we make playoffs consistently. I wish we were better at seeing good deals in the WR market grabbing the Danny Woodheads when they are available. That guy was a bargain. And yea I know he's primarily a RB, but if you can buy an all-rounder RB with good hands who gets separation, you're getting a bargain part-time receiver and another RB ... my $0.02

[thieverycorporation]

I don't see this FO every bringing in a big name reciever and paying them top-shelf money, it's just not the way they operate, and it's one of the reasons we make playoffs consistently. I wish we were better at seeing good deals in the WR market grabbing the Danny Woodheads when they are available. That guy was a bargain. And yea I know he's primarily a RB, but if you can buy an all-rounder RB with good hands who gets separation, you're getting a bargain part-time receiver and another RB ... my $0.02

Excellent point. A playmaker is a playmaker.

[rmcjacket23]

RMC and Bio. Fell free to respond if you read this.

Is it even feisable to bring in D Jackson? If you ask me, I'd take him in a heartbeat but is it really doable? What would his salary be like and who would we need to get rid of if we bring him in.

T.Smith was let go last season because we weren't willing to caugh up 9mil a year. What makes it so different now? If let's say he's traded to us for a low pick instead of him being cut. Would it help our cap. Just theoretically, the Redskins owe him a few mil so we'd have him for 7 mil a year and probably could extend his contract and spread the cap a bit.

I don't see it happening cap-wise. MAYBE if Joe gets an extension, but it seems like that's 50/50 to happen.

 

The Redskins don't owe him anything if they cut him. They'd have dead money from prior bonuses, but that has nothing to do with us.

[roamingcharges]

Jackson can be taught how to be a pro. SSSr would come in handy. The organization stated that if they saw a player that could make them better, well, he'd make us better. So many teams have been dealing with perceived distractions that it may be the new norm. Talent trumps distractions in the x's and O's. The Cowboys had Hardy. Bengals had Burfict. Browns had Manzel. To totally dismiss the idea wouldn't be wise imho. Organizations have had success with reported troubled players that other organizations have parted ways with. I see the pairing of a SSSr and DJax as a workable scenario. Jackson and SSSr would probably hit it off from the standpoint that they like competition, and offer skillset's that are comparable yet vastly different. There's a lot to like about pairing the two. Playing it safe shouldn't be the MO. If the Ravens are serious about adding playmakers they will undoubtedly have to come out of their comfort zone. Getting aging players because cap constraints and not drafting well enough to end the questions marks @ the position has caught up. Some may see as a desperation move. I see it @ a savvy one. Besides DJax wouldn't be getting into too many players or coaches faces around here. Most likely IMO he'd feel welcomed and appreciated. Everyone in the league knows what we need. Ego be dammed.

Did you just cite the Cowboys, Bengals and Browns in an effort to show me how the Ravens should do things? Umm, I don't think the Ravens will want to follow any of those teams' lead when it comes to running a football team.

[thieverycorporation]

Did you just cite the Cowboys, Bengals and Browns in an effort to show me how the Ravens should do things? Umm, I don't think the Ravens will want to follow any of those teams' lead when it comes to running a football team.

My point  shouldn't obscured via mockery. So i'll address it like this. All teams have issues with personnel and players regarding personalities and potential for clashing. Successful teams find ways to elevate or eliminate distractions. If your consistent in methods of coaching, mentoring, leadership and the like, your less leary of the pro ported distractions that the lesser organizations may shy away from. The infrastructure that currently exist here is said to be one that would lend itself to acquiring   a player in need of a change of scenery, better coaching, a chance to contribute, a real chance to win consistently and teammates that have a sound foundation. Thus it would seem logical that the player brought in with question ?'s would tow the same line as those around him. SSSr was thought of in the same light as one that may pose problems and that hasn't come to pass. He has a very strong personality and it's what the doctor ordered after ED/Ray departed. Remember? It just depends how they approach the structure of the deal. I remember T.Owens not wanting to come here. Why, because I think he recognized it wasn't going to be business as usual by the FO/coaches and team. The player still has the final say as to weather he thinks theres a mismatch regarding his addition to any team. Some guys want/need money and some guys want championships/a ring to brag about. The team should explore every ave to acquire elite/top tier talent (as the Ravens stated). So the big picture is player production for me. You can have a Cam Newton (whom almost Killed himself off the field/was known to be immature @ times turn it all around and prove his critics to be somewhat right about his ailments but wrong about his potential. So to me your reservations are typical and knee jerk. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[Halshayeji]

I don't see it happening cap-wise. MAYBE if Joe gets an extension, but it seems like that's 50/50 to happen.

The Redskins don't owe him anything if they cut him. They'd have dead money from prior bonuses, but that has nothing to do with us.

I guess I won't get my hopes up. But I do believe Joe will extend. It's just a matter of both sides playing hardball for a minute

[thieverycorporation]

I guess I won't get my hopes up. But I do believe Joe will extend. It's just a matter of both sides playing hardball for a minute

Hopefully they can work it sooner than later for his extension. We need to have cash available for any moves with having to use it sparingly.

[thieverycorporation]

Desean would be the only semi-realistic great pick up, yet very unlikely with the $ he still commands, along with it harming our comp picks. His speed with Perriman's would help keep the safeties back so that our running game can get going and open up the middle for our TEs.

I also think Calvin is contemplating retiring because he wants to win and wants out of Detroit. At this point his cap # is insane, but if he ever came at a discount, I think any championship team would love to have him. Wishful thinking

Which would you rather have a draft pick that may or may not stick aka practice squad/camp body/cut in next years draft or a playmaker that's done well in the league thus far ? The picks remain the same this year as far as comp picks awarded, as it goes by calendar year not immediate picks during the year.

[rmcjacket23]

I guess I won't get my hopes up. But I do believe Joe will extend. It's just a matter of both sides playing hardball for a minute

Certainly possible, but based on what I heard in the Ravens post season press conference, I'm not even sure how interested the Ravens are in bringing that number down.

 

I think they may strongly consider waiting until 2017 when they have much more leverage.

[eric199479]

i do really like the idea of desean jackson, but none of the other guys on the list i think would fit our team well. especially not vincent jackson. i live in tampa, so a bucs fan (on the side) and i have not been impressed with him the last couple of seasons, and he just keeps getting older. desean would be a homerun though, he can really stretch the field.

[roamingcharges]

My point  shouldn't obscured via mockery. So i'll address it like this. All teams have issues with personnel and players regarding personalities and potential for clashing. Successful teams find ways to elevate or eliminate distractions. If your consistent in methods of coaching, mentoring, leadership and the like, your less leary of the pro ported distractions that the lesser organizations may shy away from. The infrastructure that currently exist here is said to be one that would lend itself to acquiring   a player in need of a change of scenery, better coaching, a chance to contribute, a real chance to win consistently and teammates that have a sound foundation. Thus it would seem logical that the player brought in with question ?'s would tow the same line as those around him. SSSr was thought of in the same light as one that may pose problems and that hasn't come to pass. He has a very strong personality and it's what the doctor ordered after ED/Ray departed. Remember? It just depends how they approach the structure of the deal. I remember T.Owens not wanting to come here. Why, because I think he recognized it wasn't going to be business as usual by the FO/coaches and team. The player still has the final say as to weather he thinks theres a mismatch regarding his addition to any team. Some guys want/need money and some guys want championships/a ring to brag about. The team should explore every ave to acquire elite/top tier talent (as the Ravens stated). So the big picture is player production for me. You can have a Cam Newton (whom almost Killed himself off the field/was known to be immature @ times turn it all around and prove his critics to be somewhat right about his ailments but wrong about his potential. So to me your reservations are typical and knee jerk. 

Okay you keep inching further away from the coast into the murky waters; soon I won't be able to reel you in. Steve Smith Sr. isn't, wasn't and will never be the head case that Desean Jackson has been. I don't know where you get your notion that Cam Newton almost killed himself. If you're referring to the accident he had then you're just an awful person, plain and simple. I'm hoping you're talking about something else because if you're referring to an accident that was described by the press as a "routine accident" during which nobody was cited and declaring that a victim "almost killing himself" then that is asinine and I'll have to question your aptitude for rational judgment and then move on to something else.

[thieverycorporation]

Okay you keep inching further away from the coast into the murky waters; soon I won't be able to reel you in. Steve Smith Sr. isn't, wasn't and will never be the head case that Desean Jackson has been. I don't know where you get your notion that Cam Newton almost killed himself. If you're referring to the accident he had then you're just an awful person, plain and simple. I'm hoping you're talking about something else because if you're referring to an accident that was described by the press as a "routine accident" during which nobody was cited and declaring that a victim "almost killing himself" then that is asinine and I'll have to question your aptitude for rational judgment and then move on to something else.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cam-newton-incredible-perspective-surviving-185721733.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/01/21/a-car-crash-could-have-killed-cam-newton-instead-it-fueled-his-joy-for-the-game/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/01/21/a-car-crash-could-have-killed-cam-newton-instead-it-fueled-his-joy-for-the-game/

 

 

Either you don't read, don't have a tv or can afford a espn magazine. 

I'll match my intellect to yours any day. 

Reel the real deal in. 

You post and don't have a clue why. This is a prime example of a homer knee jerk reaction.  i doubt I can convince you other  otherwise so I'll let you read it for yourself. If you can lol.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000333570/article/report-steve-smith-seen-as-distraction-by-panthers