Unpopular NFL Draft Opinions

[KDUBB44]

Feel free to post your unpopular NFL Draft Opinions

 

1. Jalen Ramsey will be the best Corner few years from now in this draft

2. Paxton Lynch will be a backup in a few years

3. Ezekiel Elliot is over hyped[bIG 10 RB]

4. Laquon Treadwell will not live up to his selection

5. Corey Coleman will become the best WR in this draft

6. Ronnie Stanley>Tunsil

 

[BmoreBird22]

So, are we posting unpopular opinions or some draft myths...

[Cillmatic]

1. Ramsey sucks as a NFL corner and would also likely suck as a NFL style Free safety

2. VH3 is probably still the best CB prospect

3. Alexander is one of the worst tacklers in recent memory

4. WR is a bigger need than pass rusher

5. The Browns might finally draft a good QB

6. We could probably trade back to the early 20's and still get the best player for our team needs.

[hn68wb4]

1) Ogbah and Lawson are not first round worthy, at least for our defense.

2) Treadwell at 6 is a massive reach

3) Boyd is still probably the best WR in my opinion

4) Floyd shouldn't go before 20, he'd pedestrian against the run

5) Nope to Ramsey, just nope

6) Goff could be the best QB (not right away but eventually) in years....and the Browns will pass to take Lynch because Browns.

7) Wentz is the most overhyped QB in the draft

8) Kenny Clark from UCLA should be a third rounder at best but will go in the first

9) Don't get me started on Cook and Hackenberg

10) It'll be a couple years before Alexander will be a good CB, too aggressive and needs to be coached up, not to mention he's useless in run D.

Edited January 18, 2016 by hn68wb4

[JoeyFlex5]

Ngakoue is the best 3-4olb in this class.

In 5 years Deforest buckner will be first on all the draft do overs.

Shaq Lawson is a 2nd rounder.

Michael Thomas will be the 2nd most successful wr from this class.

Calhoun, ogbah, darron lee, Kearse, doctson, will all bust

Edited January 18, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[ALI624]

1. Picking stanley at 6 is a big mistake. 2. Need to pick a DB or WR in the first round, preferably a DB. 3. First three rounds will be a DB, WR, edge rusher in that order. 4. Trading down would be a big mistake.

[Jaybirds]

1.  I think Steve Bisciotti gave away the top of our Big Board in the press conference:  he said our top pick would be a pass rusher, safety, left tackle, or cornerback.  I think he meant Bosa, Ramsey, Tunsil, Stanley, Hargreaves, and either Smith or Buckner.  I think we have all those guys above Treadwell. 

2.  I don't think we want to take a Wide Receivers this high.  I think it's a team strategy not to pay a lot for WRs.  We'd have to pay a #6 pick overall more than Steve Smith Sr. next year.  I don't think we'll do that at WR. 

3.  I think Tunsil/Stanley present as much opportunity to trade back as Goff/Paxton. 

4.  I think the offensive players we're most likely to take in the first are Tunsil, Stanley.... and Ezekiel Elliott.  I think Trestman wants Elliott, and I think we already have playmakers on offense coming back next year:  SSS, Perriman, and Mad Maxx.  Depending on KO, the backfield could be our biggest need on offense. 

5.  I think we re-sign Wright and stand pat in the secondary.  Maybe we add depth at CB in the 2nd or 3rd.  But not the first. 

6.  I think we take a pass rusher in the first, even if we do trade back.  Jernigan needed help in the pass rush, Suggs and Dumerville are in their twilight and/or present health risks.  And I think Bisciotti has a bias in this direction. 

[January J]

Stanley> Tunsil

Ramsey WILL live up to the hype

Lawson, Calhoun = Bust

Leonard Floyd and/ or Yannick would change our defense for the better, more than any other rushers In this class.

Goff> all other qbs in this draft

We will stand pat at pick 6 and not be able to find a tradeback partner- or not be willing to except what they offer.

Treadwell is not a reach at 6.

Ozzie could very well see Buckner as the BPA at 6- and he will become a pro bowler by year two.

Alexander is not a product of poor qb play

Vh3 will have a tough time during his rookie season- but he may eventually have the best career out of him ,Ramsey, and Alexander.

If we select Boyd- he will end up being a strong candidate for rookie of the year

Bosa will not succeed just anywhere , but he will flourish in the right system if utilized properly.But he will NOT be the next JJ Watt. Not even close.

Ramsey will be there at 6 if we want him.

The browns will NOT take a qb in round 1, the cowboys will.

We will not draft a qb at any point in this draft.

We will trade back into the backend of the first to take a pass rusher.

Edited January 18, 2016 by January J

[GrimCoconut]

Ngakoue is the best 3-4olb in this class.

In 5 years Deforest buckner will be first on all the draft do overs.

Shaq Lawson is a 2nd rounder.

Michael Thomas will be the 2nd most successful wr from this class.

Calhoun, ogbah, darron lee, Kearse, doctson, will all bust

Kearse, as in the 6-5 safety from Clemson, right?

[GrimCoconut]

Jake Rudock will be the best QB from this draft in 4 years. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Kearse, as in the 6-5 safety from Clemson, right?

yep. I liked him for a little while but I don't like his lack of instincts, he seems to just not really know where to be and can get looked off easily and caught up in routes.

[hn68wb4]

The browns will NOT take a qb in round 1, the cowboys will.

We will not draft a qb at any point in this draft.

Do you think they will hang on to Manziel despite all the reports that he's done? or are they targeting someone in FA?

 

I don't think the second one qualifies for "unpopular," at this point that's pretty much a given.

[January J]

Do you think they will hang on to Manziel despite all the reports that he's done? or are they targeting someone in FA?

 

I don't think the second one qualifies for "unpopular," at this point that's pretty much a given.

nope , I think Johnny gone but they will either go with one in FA or probably draft one between rounds 2-4.

I think a lot of ppl are expecting us to take a qb at some point. It may not be an unpopular opinion but it's certainly not a given.

[CalvinSmoke]

Michael Thomas will have the best career of this WR draft class

[GrimCoconut]

yep. I liked him for a little while but I don't like his lack of instincts, he seems to just not really know where to be and can get looked off easily and caught up in routes.

I'm also not a fan. I like the idea of a 6-5 safety but I really don't know how effective he'll be. I don't think he could do anything to Antonio Brown. Sometimes height is a bad thing.

[KDUBB44]

1.  I think Steve Bisciotti gave away the top of our Big Board in the press conference:  he said our top pick would be a pass rusher, safety, left tackle, or cornerback.  I think he meant Bosa, Ramsey, Tunsil, Stanley, Hargreaves, and either Smith or Buckner.  I think we have all those guys above Treadwell. 

2.  I don't think we want to take a Wide Receivers this high.  I think it's a team strategy not to pay a lot for WRs.  We'd have to pay a #6 pick overall more than Steve Smith Sr. next year.  I don't think we'll do that at WR. 

3.  I think Tunsil/Stanley present as much opportunity to trade back as Goff/Paxton. 

4.  I think the offensive players we're most likely to take in the first are Tunsil, Stanley.... and Ezekiel Elliott.  I think Trestman wants Elliott, and I think we already have playmakers on offense coming back next year:  SSS, Perriman, and Mad Maxx.  Depending on KO, the backfield could be our biggest need on offense. 

5.  I think we re-sign Wright and stand pat in the secondary.  Maybe we add depth at CB in the 2nd or 3rd.  But not the first. 

6.  I think we take a pass rusher in the first, even if we do trade back.  Jernigan needed help in the pass rush, Suggs and Dumerville are in their twilight and/or present health risks.  And I think Bisciotti has a bias in this direction. 

Link?

 

Jake Rudock will be the best QB from this draft in 4 years. 

lol

[Cillmatic]

1. I think Steve Bisciotti gave away the top of our Big Board in the press conference: he said our top pick would be a pass rusher, safety, left tackle, or cornerback. I think he meant Bosa, Ramsey, Tunsil, Stanley, Hargreaves, and either Smith or Buckner. I think we have all those guys above Treadwell.

2. I don't think we want to take a Wide Receivers this high. I think it's a team strategy not to pay a lot for WRs. We'd have to pay a #6 pick overall more than Steve Smith Sr. next year. I don't think we'll do that at WR.

3. I think Tunsil/Stanley present as much opportunity to trade back as Goff/Paxton.

4. I think the offensive players we're most likely to take in the first are Tunsil, Stanley.... and Ezekiel Elliott. I think Trestman wants Elliott, and I think we already have playmakers on offense coming back next year: SSS, Perriman, and Mad Maxx. Depending on KO, the backfield could be our biggest need on offense.

5. I think we re-sign Wright and stand pat in the secondary. Maybe we add depth at CB in the 2nd or 3rd. But not the first.

6. I think we take a pass rusher in the first, even if we do trade back. Jernigan needed help in the pass rush, Suggs and Dumerville are in their twilight and/or present health risks. And I think Bisciotti has a bias in this direction.

I think Steve was just saying what HE thought we needed. Webb moving to safety is gonna reduce the need for safety.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Jake Rudock will be the best QB from this draft in 4 years. 

 

Thats a pretty bold one.

[52520Andrew]

Jake Rudock will be the best QB from this draft in 4 years.

He made big strides this year. Bold for sure though, I think he still needs more development and has to go to the right team.

[Mt. Crushmore]

He made big strides this year. Bold for sure though, I think he still needs more development and has to go to the right team.

 

No Jim Harbaugh for him in the NFL though 

[GrimCoconut]

Thats a pretty bold one.

He made big strides this year. Bold for sure though, I think he still needs more development and has to go to the right team.

Yeah, I felt like making some crazy, bold prediction. I'm actually a really big fan of Goff, but he's probably going to Cleveland where hope goes to die. I know they have Hue, but I am always wary of that franchise. We'll see what happens. I think the biggest thing separating prospects is honestly coaching at the professional level. Some guys come into the league ready to go, but there are just some positions that really do require proper coaching to get the most out of a prospect, unless that prospect is beyond special & transcends the norm. 

 

Environment is a factor I place a lot of emphasis on, personally. I really do like Rudock a lot, and while I certainly know it's a bold (and probably unlikely statement) to make, I figured it would be fun to make the prediction because I really have nothing to lose. It's not like I'm getting paid here, and even the best professionals make such outlandish statements a lot of the time. Personally, I think Rudock will be in a favorable position since I expect him to be a late day 3 pick, and I think a team with a franchise QB will take him to develop. I honestly think he could really come along for the right franchise with the right development.

 

Arizona is an ideal situation for him where he could learn behind Palmer & from Arians to be a very good QB with no pressure to immediately perform. I also really like him as a fit here in Baltimore as well. There's plenty of other teams with really good situations where he could develop. I won't bother to list them all, but it's no secret that I think the best prospects at QB take time to develop & I am not a fan of the recent trend of starting QBs immediately out of college. 

 

If we did take him, for instance, Trestman could help develop him while Joe is the starter. I think he has enough arm strength & talent to fill in for Joe as well & I think he'd be a solid backup. He's a great team-first kind of guy. Watch or read his interviews. He's very well-liked. I would love him here. Also, Jim could come here and give him some coaching from time to time when he's not busy, lol. OK, maybe via Skype?

Edited January 18, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[Mt. Crushmore]

Environment is a factor I place a lot of emphasis on, personally.

 

Such an important and overlooked part of the draft process. Sometimes players fail not because of skills but because of their environment they are placed in with their new team.

[52520Andrew]

No Jim Harbaugh for him in the NFL though

Agreed but Harbs isn't the only good QB coach either. Kaep really struggled without Harbs though as well so there is that

[Jaybirds]

Link?

 

lol

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Take-On-5-Positions-Of-Need/c2b24095-06ee-4cca-9532-3d725bef51ff

When Newsome was asked to project what position he’ll take with his first-round pick, Owner Steve Bisciotti stepped in, pointing to pass rusher, safety, left tackle or cornerback.

“Thanks, Steve,” Newsome said with a laugh.

This stood out to me because the QUESTION was so different.  When Ozzie gave his quote about needing 1 or 2 wide receivers, it was in response to a reporter asking specifically about wide receivers.  This question didn't mention any specific position, and Bisciotti lists 4..... all of which are at the top of most projected big boards right now.   I think that was why Ozzie laughed:  Bisciotti was just starting at the top of the list and reading off the first six spots. 

 

[jboy19]

1. I think that Myles Jack is overrated. Everybody's always talking about how he covers slot receivers when he only was successful in that role against New Mexico State. He gives up big plays in coverage more often than anyone is willing to talk about, I haven't seen many LBs that bite on play action as hard as he does. I also don't think that he has much pass rushing upside. Everyone was throwing Mora under the bus for saying that Jack should've stayed at UCLA for another year, but I think he was probably right. I also think he is smaller than listed, I think he might weigh in closer to 6'0" 225 than at 6'1" 245. He is probably going to test well if his knee gets rehabbed fast enough, but I wouldn't draft him in the first round if I were an NFL GM. 

 

2. I think the WR class is underrated. I think Treadwell could be a top 5 pick. He is a physical wide receiver in the mold of Alshon Jeffery or Dez Bryant. I think Corey Coleman and Michael Thomas go in Round 1, and there's a run on WR's at the top of Round 2 with guys like Doctson, Fuller and Boyd going fast on Day 2. 

 

3. I do not think Bosa is a great fit as a 3-4 OLB/Pure Pass Rusher, so I could see him falling to the Cowboys, Jaguars, Dolphins, Buccaneers, or Giants, or one of these teams trading up for him. 

 

4. I don't think any QB's go in the top 5. There's a lot of reasons for guys like Goff, Lynch and Wentz to fall. If I were ranking these QB's with the past 2 years classes (going on what I thought before each draft), it would go Winston, Mariota, Bridgewater, Carr, Bortles, Goff, Manziel, Wentz, Garroppolo, Lynch. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

Laquon Treadwell isn't a top 10 talent

[GrimCoconut]

3 minutes ago, Mt. Crushmore said:

Laquon Treadwell isn't a top 10 talent

In this draft or generally speaking? I don't think he would've been a top 10 talent in other classes but the argument certainly exists in this case. He's lumped into a group of guys that are all pretty evenly ranked for me. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

In this draft or generally speaking? I don't think he would've been a top 10 talent in other classes but the argument certainly exists in this case. He's lumped into a group of guys that are all pretty evenly ranked for me. 

Both

[GrimCoconut]

5 minutes ago, Mt. Crushmore said:

Both

Yeah I can see that. Who do you personally have ahead of him?

[Mt. Crushmore]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah I can see that. Who do you personally have ahead of him?

Classified for the forum mock

Edited January 29, 2016 by Mt. Crushmore