Bias Bill Cowher

[3Zach21]

IS this a JOKE!??!?!? Roethlisberger the 3rd best qb? He doesnt crack top 5. He is surely not better than tom brady, or drew brees.

Because Ben can take sacks, and he holds the ball too long makes him a better qb? OH yeah, he punts too....

But seroiusely, In what aspect is he better then brees or brady.
Saying Roethlisberger is better then Brady is probably the worst thing i've heard all day.

QB LIST:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. A stringing Donovan McNabb
5. Yes, Kurt Warner.

[KYMDFAN]

I would put Big Ben over Brees... I would for the sole fact that Ben has a title and Brees doesn't. Brees is good but I think Ben manages games better.

I won't put him anywhere near Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

[3Zach21]

[quote name='KYMDFAN' post='127027' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:38 PM']I would put Big Ben over Brees... I would for the sole fact that Ben has a title and Brees doesn't. Brees is good but I think Ben manages games better.

I won't put him anywhere near Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.[/quote]

Brees is a way more accurate passer than Ben is.

[codizzle]

[quote name='KYMDFAN' post='127027' date='Jan 11 2009, 08:38 PM']I would put Big Ben over Brees... I would for the sole fact that Ben has a title and Brees doesn't. Brees is good but I think Ben manages games better.

I won't put him anywhere near Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.[/quote]
it would seem that way because brees has one of the worst defenses in the league. obviously ben has always had one of the best

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='codizzle' post='127000' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:26 PM']u cant tell me ben is amazing under pressure either come on[/quote]

are you kidding me...he has more pressure on him then any of the other elite qbs

that pocket crumbles on him all the time...if he wasnt good under pressure we would never complete a pass

he runs out of the pocket all the time...how many times have you seen brady do that

[raylewismvp]

there wrong 95% of the time I'd be just as good of an analyst

[3Zach21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127043' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:43 PM']are you kidding me...he has more pressure on him then any of the other elite qbs

that pocket crumbles on him all the time...if he wasnt good under pressure we would never complete a pass

he runs out of the pocket all the time...how many times have you seen brady do that[/quote]

Are you really trying to compare Roethlisberger to Brady? Now I am not saying Ben isn't a good Qb, but he is NO Tom Brady.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='codizzle' post='127000' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:26 PM']u cant tell me ben is amazing under pressure either come on[/quote]

...

I'd say Roethlisberger is one of the league's best in crunch time.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='127049' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:46 PM']Are you really trying to compare Roethlisberger to Brady? Now I am not saying Ben isn't a good Qb, but he is NO Tom Brady.[/quote]

no what im saying is brady is no good under pressure......brady would be horrible as a steelers qb

[KYMDFAN]

I think we can all agree to disagree and then agree again if we disagreed in the first place and if you understand what I just said, please tell me.

[codizzle]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127043' date='Jan 11 2009, 08:43 PM']are you kidding me...he has more pressure on him then any of the other elite qbs

that pocket crumbles on him all the time...if he wasnt good under pressure we would never complete a pass

he runs out of the pocket all the time...how many times have you seen brady do that[/quote]
okay i was exaggerating there but i agree brady doesnt have to run like ben..... but dont make ben seem like a god as you are right now... stats do not lie come on

[3Zach21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127056' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:49 PM']no what im saying is brady is no good under pressure......brady would be horrible as a steelers qb[/quote]

Have you honestly seen Brady be under pressure to desipher that lol

[codizzle]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127056' date='Jan 11 2009, 08:49 PM']no what im saying is brady is no good under pressure......brady would be horrible as a steelers qb[/quote]
just as ben would be horrible as patriots qb .

[Ravnet]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127056' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:49 PM']no what im saying is brady is no good under pressure......brady would be horrible as a steelers qb[/quote]

They're both great under pressure.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='127062' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:50 PM']Have you honestly seen Brady be under pressure to desipher that lol[/quote]

lol yes i have.......last years superbowl

they kept getting to him and he was all over the place

he needs his pocket to stay firm or he cant concentrate

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='codizzle' post='127064' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:51 PM']just as ben would be horrible as patriots qb .[/quote]

i dont know......if ben had a line that gave him forever to throw......he can throw the long ball and he has the accuracy

what else does tom do lol

[3Zach21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127076' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:54 PM']i dont know......if ben had a line that gave him forever to throw......he can throw the long ball and he has the accuracy

what else does tom do lol[/quote]

Tom's been known to run the 4.3 40..

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='127087' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:58 PM']Tom's been known to run the 4.3 40..[/quote]

its not his speed im questioning its his ability to escape the pocket and still hit his target

[codizzle]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127076' date='Jan 11 2009, 08:54 PM']i dont know......if ben had a line that gave him forever to throw......he can throw the long ball and he has the accuracy

what else does tom do lol[/quote]
ben does not have the accuracy

[3Zach21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127090' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:59 PM']its not his speed im questioning its his ability to escape the pocket and still hit his target[/quote]

lol i know.. and i was just playin theres no chance brady runs a 4.3. He's one of the slowest qb's in the league

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='codizzle' post='127092' date='Jan 11 2009, 10:00 PM']ben does not have the accuracy[/quote]

are you kidding me....did you watch the game today.....he threw like 15 passes into a tight hole 12-25 yards away

did you see the one to hines ward at the end of the half...if that was anywhere besides where it was it would have been a pick

right on the money

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='127094' date='Jan 11 2009, 10:01 PM']lol i know.. and i was just playin theres no chance brady runs a 4.3. He's one of the slowest qb's in the league[/quote]

lol

[codizzle]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127098' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:02 PM']are you kidding me....did you watch the game today.....he threw like 15 passes into a tight hole 12-25 yards away

did you see the one to hines ward at the end of the half...if that was anywhere besides where it was it would have been a pick

right on the money[/quote]
lol aight against the great sd defense.... i forgot big ben is a god and makes tom brady look like a pansy my bad

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='codizzle' post='127102' date='Jan 11 2009, 10:03 PM']lol aight against the great sd defense.... i forgot big ben is a god and makes tom brady look like a pansy my bad[/quote]

lol nah man....brady is good

im half seriouse and half hyped about the win lol

[codizzle]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='127105' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:06 PM']lol nah man....brady is good

im half seriouse and half hyped about the win lol[/quote]
and yea im half hyped from our win and half ticked that we have to come to you guys now lol