[News] Mel Kiper Outlines Five Options At Pick No. 6

[hen826957]

I hate trading back because it hasn't been succesful in the last couple of years turn to be bad picks not contribute type of players. If they trade back all the way to around the 20th pick l will be mad. Trading back is cursing us right now pick at number 6.

[January J]

Marriota got knocked out of a few games this year, and they could always move Lewan to RT where he might be better suited in the NFL. Tunsil has future HOF type ability. He was the JO of college football last year. I have heard from a bunch of Titans fans that think they pass on Bosa because they have also invested in a lot of D-Linemen early in the draft, but Bosa also makes sense. 

 

Ezikel is probably a reach, but look at the Cowboys and tell me what they need most. They already have Brandon Carr (FA Signing 2012), Morris Claiborne (1st Round 2012) UFA, and Byron Jones (1st Round 2015). I could see them taking a corner, but I went with their biggest need if they since they are too stubborn to take a QB. I could also see them taking Treadwell, BPA, or trading back. 

 

The Purpose of my post was to hear opinions on who we take at No. 6...

ofcourse it's a need...by why would they pick somebody at pick 4 that possibly could be had in the second round?

[whobilly]

Would like to see Treadwell followed by a bunch of defensive picks. Would be great to have offensive weapons.

[Crusader]

This is a myth. You're referencing a knee condition that affects ADOLESCENTS, which obviously Perriman is not.

That similar information is also available on Google...

Your wrong it was actually a quote  by Perriman in the article published days before the draft.  Besides, you still believe everything this Ravens crew put out? 

[757RavensFan]

Your wrong it was actually a quote by Perriman in the article published days before the draft. Besides, you still believe everything this Ravens crew put out?

No I believe that if he had a "knee issue" it would have been noticed while playing in college. Tell me how many games he missed in college bc of this knee issue you speak of. I'll wait!

[RavenManiac#7]

I absolutely Hate the idea of trading down, even though Ozzie loves doing it. We haven't had the opportunity to get a "blue chipper" in so long, and we really could use one. We have NO playmakers, really on Either side of the ball. Please, Ozzie, do Not trade down. Get us a player of the caliber we haven't had access to for, it seems like forever.

[jravens13]

ofcourse it's a need...by why would they pick somebody at pick 4 that possibly could be had in the second round?

Elliot is rated the between 10th-15th best prospect on most sites. There is a reason why he is called "Zeek Tha Freak". He will be gone quick and Dallas is know for doing crazy things when it comes to the draft and free agency because Jerry Jones. You still never answered who you think we are going to draft? 

[OzzieBisciotti]

Crusader is referring to us not doing our homework when it came to drafting Perriman because of this:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html

He had known issues with his knees in high school- he'd just be walking around in the mall, and then his knee would buckle, and he had to wear braces in high school. He did his homework.....

[OzzieBisciotti]

Here's Mel Kiper's article from the Post regarding the 2015 draft: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/01/15/no-nfl-team-got-more-from-2015-draft-class-than-redskins-mel-kiper-says/ They got significant contributions with their first four draft picks this year- I can't remember when we had one of those drafts- it's been over 5 years if not longer- this doesn't include all the great FA pickups they've had in Knighton, Gholston, Pierre  Thomas, and their secondary coaches were able to turn an undrafted wide receiver (Dunbar) into a starting cornerback this year.  We can't even draft/ get a free agent cornerback to play well for us for the past 4 years.

Edited January 16, 2016 by OzzieBisciotti

[January J]

Elliot is rated the between 10th-15th best prospect on most sites. There is a reason why he is called "Zeek Tha Freak". He will be gone quick and Dallas is know for doing crazy things when it comes to the draft and free agency because Jerry Jones. You still never answered who you think we are going to draft?

I didn't realize you asked. Hes not MY first choice..But I think Ozzie will value ramseys versatility and really want him. He just has that raven attitude. The pick scares me bc of his lack of discipline and ball skills which lead me to believe he could be more of the same, but the potential is obviously there. Just a question of whether peas will know how to properly utilize him. I think Buckner may actually be the BPA when we pick, so I see that as an option too. He doesn't fill a direct need, but canty is likely on the way out so it woukd be a great addition, and I also believe he could slide over and possibly play DE. Now my ideal scenario is getting San Fran to take the bait, get an extra second and possibly a 4th ( it's only one spot, but remember they would be competing with other teams offers likely offering a future first or multiple 2nds) and take Tread. With the uncertainty of perriman and sss on the way out I think this would be a wise move and would take our offense to the next level. I can see trestman really lobbyin for this guy too, and he can use him and Perriman like he did Jeffrey and marshall..buck will be like our forte. Difference is we have the quarter back and o line to peice it all together and make it work. Many people say Ozzie won't draft another receiver in the first bc of his track record and bc we did last year which is nonsense. Hes also never had the chance to get one in the top ten, and this could be our opportunity to get our true number 1 for the future . I see him as a dez/ boldin type receiver, which Joe would absolutely love. With perriman stretching the feild and Steve working the middle? Along with our tight ends? Pshh forget about it. Now I would use that ectra second from San Fran to move back up into the back end of the first and take Leonard Floyd.. or just stand pat with the two 2nd round picks and take Eli Apple and yannick. Von bell in the 3rd, Dahl in the 4th and Cyrus Jones with our comp pick. The rest can be used for depth elsewhere..howard would be intersting too if he fell to the third..i def can see us rolling with 4 tight ends on the roster next season. We started running alot of double and triple TE sets last year but injuries set us back and prevented that. probably should take a center and maybe even a back up qb.. anyway..lotto different possibilities but if it panned out even remotely close to this I would be ecstatic. Ozzie has never missed on a top ten pick, and not only has he not missed but he's knocked them out the park with several ring of honor and hall of fame players. Edited January 16, 2016 by January J

[RavenManiac#7]

Baring injuries... (Cough* Perriman...) We need someone who is going to start like not even day one but like day -1. Of all positions, I think CB is the one where we need an immediate starter. Especially if we want to keep up with the Antonio browns and Aj Greens in our division, with the 6th pick we cant have a project player. Pass rush might be the next option but I think we have a reputation for breeding no name pass rushers (Mcphee, Arthur Jones) I think we wait, Apart from Bosa who I'm sure wont be avail the next pass rusher isnt worth the same value as the top CB. My call is Ramsey or Hargreaves if neither is available we are trading back with other teams who are trying to leap frog San Fran for a QB. OL I'm confident we'll address in FA, we did that and got a solid starting center to replace Birk or if luck would have it we'll restructure joe, get tucker locked up and tag KO. We've invested a first round last year at WR, Treadwell isnt worth it at pick 6, We can get DeSean Jackson 2.0 in Will Fuller in the second round. OZ and most people already know we already have Possession receivers we need a receiver that can catch canon bombs. Enter Will Fuller.

Lock up Tucker and tag KO? I don't think so. If either of those two get tagged I have to believe it will be Tucker, in the event that we can't agree with his agent on a long term deal. But do you have any idea what it would cost to tag KO? As much as I'm hoping that Joe's restructure, or some other miraculous way appears that allows us to re-sign KO, I don't see it as likely. Big bummer. I want him badly. But tagging him will cost, what, somewhere near 12 million. I don't see that happening.

[RavenManiac#7]

I really don't care who they pick because they have so many needs from previous bust but this time do YOUR STUPID HOMEWORK and DO YOUR JOB. All you had to do is Google Perriman and you knew he had issues with his knee.

Are you Ever going to join the rest of "Raven World" who HAS done their homework and read All the information about the knee condition Perriman suffered from as a CHILD? For the umpth-teen time, the condition he HAD resolves itself when his body is grown. Perriman suffered a serious injury to a ligament that was not related to his childhood condition in ANY way. I, along with a Lot of posters on here, sincerely wish that You would do Your homework and learn about this situation so that, just perhaps, you might stop blaming our excellent FO for making the mistake you continually insist it made, that it simply is Not guilty of.

[pcwag33]

Stay at the pick and look for DT Billings or other top defensive playmaker.

[rmcjacket23]

Crusader is referring to us not doing our homework when it came to drafting Perriman because of this:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html

He had known issues with his knees in high school- he'd just be walking around in the mall, and then his knee would buckle, and he had to wear braces in high school. He did his homework.....

1. Did you actually read the article?

2. Did you do the research from medical experts online of the long term effects of the disease?

Go read what the Mayo Clinic says about it...it's quite educational.

[sami]

has Kiper EVER been right about who we draft first?

[PolishRifle]

has Kiper EVER been right about who we draft first?

 

To be fair to Mel, we do usually draft late. It's kinda hard sometimes to predict, who ends up in the late first or early second. There's much more movement there than in the first half of the 1st round.

Kiper mocked Stanley to us recently and that's a pretty good pick, imho.

[52liveforever]

Uh. in the first article this website published after we drafted Perriman all you had to say was "I can't get imagine a 6' 2, 212 pound guy running that fast. That's NUTS."

I'm curious because it doesn't sound like you yourself had done "your stupid homework."

 

haha time for a new user name

[cushrinada1986]

The WR selection is weak compared to previous drafts but value can be found in the 2nd round. I think Flacco would love a WR like Lequan or Mike Thomas but Sterling Sheppard, Tosh Boyd, or a Will Fuller would also infuse some serious talent on the offense as well.

[thieverycorporation]

Crusader is referring to us not doing our homework when it came to drafting Perriman because of this: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html He had known issues with his knees in high school- he'd just be walking around in the mall, and then his knee would buckle, and he had to wear braces in high school. He did his homework.....

I said the same thing as well when I was refuted by saying Ozzie slipped up and dodged the question at the state of the Ravens  presser. It wasn't just his bad/arkward fall but a known fact before the draft. It was a blunder that wasn't acknowledged cause Ozzie rolled the dice and lost that bet. If answered truthfully would have provided pundents to question the decision he made to draft him so high. He may prove to be valuable but with injury question marks. I think he didn't answer the question directly. And I think Mel Kiper stated that there was a question about health concerns when was selected by us when the pick actually happened. Going forward, it has to be a concern and an aspect, which must play into the minds of the scouts, FO, coaches as to whom seemed brittle during their college careers. Sitting on the sideline 2 game contributors don't win games. AKA= Campanaro anyone. 

Edited January 16, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[rmcjacket23]

I said the same thing as well when I was refuted by saying Ozzie slipped up and dodged the question at the state of the Ravens presser. It wasn't just his bad/arkward fall but a known fact before the draft. It was a blunder that wasn't acknowledged cause Ozzie rolled the dice and lost that bet. If answered truthfully would have provided pundents to question the decision he made to draft him so high. He may prove to be valuable but with injury question marks. I think he didn't answer the question directly. And I think Mel Kiper stated that there was a question about health concerns when was selected by us when the pick actually happened. Going forward, it has to be a concern and an aspect, which must play into the minds of the scouts, FO, coaches as to whom seemed brittle during their college careers. Sitting on the sideline 2 game contributors don't win games. AKA= Campanaro anyone.

So again...did anybody actually read the article and research the disease? I mean the article you are referencing largely validates Ozzie, which kind of makes this whole discussion ironic...

And perhaps more ironically is advocating be cautious with "brittle" college players, yet Perriman showed nothing resembling brittle in college...

 

[gekaap]

the only thing you didn't list was to do the Macarena. This guy is supposed to be come kind of expert? This reminds me of those stupid facebook memes floating around that say "This is the the 'I get grumpy when I get less than 4 hours of sleep' club," and then lists 10 of the 12 horoscope signs. And everyone jumps in and says "Oh my god it's totally right, I'm a leo and I definitely need more sleep than that or I get super grumpy!"

Edited January 16, 2016 by Moderator 3
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[thieverycorporation]

So again...did anybody actually read the article and research the disease? I mean the article you are referencing largely validates Ozzie, which kind of makes this whole discussion ironic...

And perhaps more ironically is advocating be cautious with "brittle" college players, yet Perriman showed nothing resembling brittle in college...

 

Nar not at all. But is what is ! fishing is for fisherman !

[thieverycorporation]

So again...did anybody actually read the article and research the disease? I mean the article you are referencing largely validates Ozzie, which kind of makes this whole discussion ironic...

And perhaps more ironically is advocating be cautious with "brittle" college players, yet Perriman showed nothing resembling brittle in college...

 

What you talking bout Willis ? lol

[utalkingtome123]

king is going back to school.

Thx i just saw that to bad he would be a good pick for someone

[purpledown]

its early but Ramsey or Stanley sound like the best picks at 6.

[Purple Dawg 96]

I feel the #1 pick should be a CB or WR! The down field creativity I'm going to call it has to get better because Joe locks on his WRs and doesn't use pump fakes to totally shake a secondary out their socks and if the Ravens can't utilize the WRs they have now what will a new WR do?! They beat the squeelers with backups on Offense, wish we started the season like that!

[OzzieBisciotti]

1. Did you actually read the article?

2. Did you do the research from medical experts online of the long term effects of the disease?

Go read what the Mayo Clinic says about it...it's quite education

Doesn't one think that if he had issues with his knees this year that somehow it might be related to his past issues with the same knee?  He recovered and then he reinjured himself during pre-game warmups-   We lost one full year from him, and he's a bust until he proves me wrong by actually playing and catching the ball.  It's a shame he's had issues with his knees, and it's a real shame he saw the hospital bed more than the playing field.  Also, besides Torrey, Oz has never ever successully chosen a true playmaker wide receiver in the past 15 years. 

[eric199479]

i think treadwell would be a reach unless we trade down a little, but i would rather pick where we are. Deforest Buckner played in a 3-4 in college, and the dude is a beast. i know we need help in a lot of places, but he is a playmaker for sure.

[OzzieBisciotti]

I'm done talking about Breshard Perriman- let's talk about why Harbs wants another safety when Oz drafted two safeties recently in Matt Elam and Clarence Brookes? He can't seem to draft a legit safety- Will Hill is good though

[Dfence4champs2052]

Yeaaaah....Monroe is probably not the starting OT next season.