Your thoughts on Derrick Henry-RB-Bama

[BSHU_Miami]

Where do you see him picked? Is he a legit possoblity for us? Would you want Henry as a Raven? Another overrated Bama prospect?

[Cillmatic]

Not needed;we have enough good RB's already if we wanted him we'd have to use a high pick an ignore an actual need.

Edited January 14, 2016 by Cillmatic

[allblackraven]

I am singular minority in Henry's case but I loved that guy since the start of 2014 season, when he relieved Yeldon at times. I would love to have him as a Raven, I think he and Buck would be very nice combo.

 

Henry is terribly underrated with the excuse that he needs O line to open the hole for him. Well, which RB doesn't need that? He would be great running behind our blockers.

 

We cannot pick him at 6 realistically and he will not be there for us in 2nd round.

Edited January 14, 2016 by allblackraven

[hn68wb4]

Don't like him as a prospect. If he falls far then maybe but it'd be a waste to pick him as high as he'll probably go, we have enough potential at RB and next years class looks stacked if we need one.

[rmw10]

I'm not in love with the guy as a prospect, but I don't hate him like some others do.  I'd guess he's one that will go in the late 2nd round.

[Wildabeast88]

No need or a RB I think he isn't even the top RB Ezekiel Elliott is a better prospect in my opinion

[ravensnick]

Don't like him at all as a prospect. Way too much wear on his tires. Saban effectively destroyed his pro career with the amount of carries he got this year. Not a factor in the passing game. Runs too upright. Can't find holes if their isn't a huge one there for him (see: National Championship, second half). All north-south with no wiggle or shift abilities. Nice size and speed, but he doesn't run like an NFL back. He could be the second coming of Brandon Jacobs but I doubt it. I don't want him at all. He would be an absolutely horrid fit in the Ravens zone run system. 

 

I wouldn't touch him in the first or second and would be extremely reluctant to take him in the third. 

Edited January 14, 2016 by ravensnick

[Inqui]

 

 

STRENGTHS

Blount possesses rare size for the running back position. Shows impressive balance on contact, will consistently break tackles and is rarely brought down by arm tackles in the open field. Exhibits good foot quickness and agility for a big back and can make plays in space and on the perimeter.

WEAKNESSES

Blount only has adequate top end speed. Is a bit of a speed-builder and his burst through the hole is questionable. Elusiveness is just adequate and will not make many guys miss in the hole. Has off the field issues which need to be investigated. Was inconsistent with his work habits in college.

 

That was Legarrette Blount's nfl.com scouting report (he measured 6'0, 241lb at the combine, while ESPN has Henry at 6'3, 242lb), and a decent chunk of that same stuff can be said about Henry.

Edited January 15, 2016 by Inqui

[hn68wb4]

That was Legarrette Blount's nfl.com scouting report (he measured 6'0, 241lb at the combine, while ESPN has Henry at 6'3, 242lb), and a decent chunk of that same stuff can be said about Henry.

But I think Henry is a bit faster than Blount, which (outside of his attitude) probably his biggest problem

[KDUBB44]

Don't like him at all as a prospect. Way too much wear on his tires. Saban effectively destroyed his pro career with the amount of carries he got this year. Not a factor in the passing game. Runs too upright. Can't find holes if their isn't a huge one there for him (see: National Championship, second half). All north-south with no wiggle or shift abilities. Nice size and speed, but he doesn't run like an NFL back. He could be the second coming of Brandon Jacobs but I doubt it. I don't want him at all. He would be an absolutely horrid fit in the Ravens zone run system. 

 

I wouldn't touch him in the first or second and would be extremely reluctant to take him in the third. 

It's pretty common at BAMA

[allblackraven]

Don't like him at all as a prospect. Way too much wear on his tires. Saban effectively destroyed his pro career with the amount of carries he got this year. Not a factor in the passing game. Runs too upright. Can't find holes if their isn't a huge one there for him (see: National Championship, second half). All north-south with no wiggle or shift abilities. Nice size and speed, but he doesn't run like an NFL back. He could be the second coming of Brandon Jacobs but I doubt it. I don't want him at all. He would be an absolutely horrid fit in the Ravens zone run system. 

 

I wouldn't touch him in the first or second and would be extremely reluctant to take him in the third. 

It's pretty common at BAMA

It was a lot but he only played one full season as a starter. Dude as big as Henry can certainly take that.

[thieverycorporation]

I'd take him but he'd have to slip way down the charts. I'd take Cj Prosise instead probably 4th and early. He's a banger. He had 115 carries, 1100 yds ,11 TD for ND. He runs correctly and finds holes.  220lbs @ 6ft.  We have Forsett for swing passes and out the backfield. He's elusive and owns a second gear. 

Edited January 15, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[ALPHA]

I think we need some speed at the position, a change of pace to Terrence West who is probably going to be the last man standing at the end of next season.

[usmccharles]

I'm still in the mindset of a ray rice type back as a huge need. That being said I don't see that at all in Henry, just like I don't see it in Buck.

I think we need a playmaker big time at that position, I compared buck to Chris ivory and I think that's accurate, I see the same in Henry.

[gabrielgrissom]

He wont do anything against a good defense... With more and more teams going zone scheme and west coast and boots and all that... Rbs like him that are strictly power oriented are becoming a luxury... I don't see him anything more than a change of pace back to be paired with a quicker back... Goal line type if that... It would surprise me if he slipped into early day 3

[PurpleCity5]

I don't hate him as a prospect, but at the same time I don't like him either. I just don't like his fit here, he would be much better off in a power man scheme. He's not shifty, he's pretty much exclusively a power back. I'm not denying the talent, its surely there. I will say he's a talented back, I'm just not a fan of the fit, and there's nothing wrong with that. I personally want someone explosive and shifty as a RB, we seem to have enough power RBs here with West and Allen. Forsett is that guy but he's getting up there in age. 

 

As far as the carries go, If I'm not mistaken there were concerns with Melvin Gordons very high amount of carries and I do feel that while that is a legit concern, its not a reason to pass on him yet, some guys have good wear and tear in them.

Edited January 15, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[Tru11]

2nd round if we trade back sure or trade back up.

 

he wears down defenses like jamal lewis used to do.

 

not sure if he fits our offense though

[GrimCoconut]

I like him but not in the first or second.

[January J]

Harbs did say he wouldn't mind adding another back...but they say that about almost every position. I'd only take him if he fell to the third. I can't justify not getting a pass rusher , wr, or cb in the first two rounds.

[PurpleCity5]

Harbs did say he wouldn't mind adding another back...but they say that about almost every position. I'd only take him if he fell to the third. I can't justify not getting a pass rusher , wr, or cb in the first two rounds.

What Harbs want in an RB is different then Henry. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he wants someone similar to Forsett but younger. Someone explosive out the backfield who is also shifty.

[52520Andrew]

I think a lot of people underestimate Buck as a receiver. He is no Ray Rice but he catches his fair share of passes out the backfield and isn't just a power back unlike guys like Andre Williams and Alfred Morris who almost never catch passes.

Edited January 15, 2016 by 52520Andrew

[January J]

What Harbs want in an RB is different then Henry. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he wants someone similar to Forsett but younger. Someone explosive out the backfield who is also shifty.

probably so..but I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted another bruiser with tali's injury history and the up and down play and uncertainty of west.

[Drew P]

If he is around in the 4th grab him

[redlobster]

I'd take CJ out of Notre Dame or a late round flier on Kenyon drake before I would touch Henry

[BmoreBird22]

My biggest issue, and something I see being an issue in the pros, is that Henry runs too upright and he doesn't have good acceleration or the ability to really get around the edge and just hit that second gear in an instant. 

He's a real long strider that needs to build up his momentum before he'll break a tackle or really be off to the races. I expect him to run a horrid 10-yard split at the combine. Just don't really think he fits as a number one back.

[rmw10]

I think a lot of people underestimate Buck as a receiver. He is no Ray Rice but he catches his fair share of passes out the backfield and isn't just a power back unlike guys like Andre Williams and Alfred Morris who almost never catch passes.

 

My biggest issue with Buck is that I have yet to see that breakaway speed.  He can get to open space but he doesn't seem to have that extra gear.  If we're going to draft a RB, I'd guess we're looking for a more speedy complement.  That would seem to rule Henry out, as West and Taliaferro can fill that big back role.

[thieverycorporation]

I'd take CJ out of Notre Dame or a late round flier on Kenyon drake before I would touch Henry

I got an Amen and you got an Amen. CJ or Drake would be absolute fits in our scheme. CJ plays like a Raven. Drake offers a very high ceiling as well. Good choices IMHO.

[1rudedog]

But I think Henry is a bit faster than Blount, which (outside of his attitude) probably his biggest problem

A bit faster doesn't say much...As for as his size and ability, we have a bruiser...he was missed in the hard-yard scheme but he'll be as valuable as Henry and aLOT cheaper....

[thieverycorporation]

My biggest issue, and something I see being an issue in the pros, is that Henry runs too upright and he doesn't have good acceleration or the ability to really get around the edge and just hit that second gear in an instant. 

He's a real long strider that needs to build up his momentum before he'll break a tackle or really be off to the races. I expect him to run a horrid 10-yard split at the combine. Just don't really think he fits as a number one back.

It was brought to my attention By Joeyflex5 that he has no power around the edges and runs way too high. It was evident in the championship game. He basically an open hole runner to daylight. While excels at that, we'd have to open up massive holes every play which will not happen. Zone blocking and all. Flood the box and he's done with YFL as his running statistic. Without that second gear he looked done because of uprightness. I have to agree with Joey that he's not a fit here. He may even be a bust in the NFL. I'd take him in the late 4th or 5th maybe.

[1rudedog]

What Harbs want in an RB is different then Henry. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he wants someone similar to Forsett but younger. Someone explosive out the backfield who is also shifty.

Baltimore has someone as good as Henry with the same physic... there is also 2 young fast backs that got alot of 'GOOD' playing time... Forsett got his 1 year of Glory behind a line that had its best year ever... It happening again is for "Dreamers"... Go with Mallett at QB (did I say that right?) dump Flacco, Oz should eat the Dead Money.... Don't worry about the rb slot...