[News] Late For Work 1/14: Ed Reed Lands NFL Coaching Gig ... Not In Baltimore

[OzzieBisciotti]

Harbs didn't like Ed because he questioned his authority- no way Ed gets a job here while Harbs is here. Plus, I'm not sure how high Bisciotti is on Reed- they did let him go,remember

[riseNConquer81]

“He was a handful for his coaches throughout his playing days,” Hensley wrote. “That part of Reed's career as one of the best safeties in NFL history often goes overlooked. … Most Ravens coaches and players will acknowledge Reed's brilliance. They will also agree he wasn't the most coachable player."

Most natural born legends arent.

His un-coached (and consequently unpredictable) approach to the position is what made him dangerous.

Plus, coachability isnt much of an issue anymore when you're supposed to be the coach.

[riseNConquer81]

Harbs didn't like Ed because he questioned his authority- no way Ed gets a job here while Harbs is here. Plus, I'm not sure how high Bisciotti is on Reed- they did let him go,remember

this is fan fiction.

can we not stir up this kind of non sense again?

[outkast1]

Ray Lewis would be a better coach than Ed Reed.I will enjoy watching the Bills sink to the bottom again !

[mearzunkies]

Well said riseNconquer81 well said!

[law215]

Reed is a first ballot HOF. Why not give him a CHANCE to develop your poorish secondary? As far as his style of play, kids will aspire to be like Reed the same way kids mock Deon Sanders whether Reed coaches or not. If he did nothing more than inspire film study and leadership on the sideline to give pointers, it's better than what Ravens current have coaching the secondary. I've seen no improvement in Elam, Levine, Trawick, etc.. Best of Luck Ed.

[drillem]

The snoozing at the switch like many decision by the team is very troubling. Not going for Reed when he's available and our backfield is in sore need of insight like he possesses is amazingly stupid.

[Rave-O]

I am so ticked off about Ed going anywhere but here to coach. This is only because Harbaugh would not want him here. Ed went to Buffalo because of Rex, he did not come to Baltimore because of Harbaugh!

[vext99]

Everyone is mad at Ed for getting a job when WE didn't offer him on. What was he suppose to do? My question is with the weak secondary that we have why didn't we offer he a job?

[RaRaRavens]

Everyone is mad at Ed for getting a job when WE didn't offer him on. What was he suppose to do? My question is with the weak secondary that we have why didn't we offer he a job?

 

Don't know about the other folks here, but I'm mad at our FO for not offering him a job OR if they did, then not pursuing hard enough for him. He has special football mind and I truly believe that with 1-2 years of developing as an assistant coach, he can be an amazing positional coach and maybe even a coordinator one day.

 

And as always...I'm not mad, I'm disappointed:)

[Halshayeji]

this is fan fiction.

can we not stir up this kind of non sense again?

If you still believe that there's absolutely no beef between harbs and Ed then you may be a bit delusional.

Harbs passed up on him when he was here. He passed up on him when he got released. He passed up on him when he was willing to come as a mentor at close to minimum salary. Harbs passed up on him when he was staying at home itching to get back. Harbs now passed up on him and we know for a fact that he's not asking to be a DC but in fact hes an assistant.

In the meantime, we have brought in young guys, free agents, aging vets. A whole bunch of safeties came and went and Ed would have helped us much more than most. Even if it was just as a mentor to our guys....

What does that tell you? Harbs fears loosing the locker room to Ed. Or there's unsettled business between the two.

If you have a better explanation please share because I for one hate picking sides between harbs and Ed. Two guys that I really love and respect.

Edited January 15, 2016 by Halshayeji

[Dorota]

I just wish he would use some of that "wise decision making" in the draft nowadays.

Whether it is or isn't won't show immediately with most guys. Of course, I'm glad we have C.J. Mosley, he's awesome. At this point you just don't know. I'm wildly fabulating, but it could turn out, that Breshad Perriman is the best WR Ravens have ever drafted and he'll be here for the next 12 years, Elam might train hard, and master one position so that he can become a solid starter and we'll all forget his sophomore year, except for those few guys in five years who'll go "I told you not to quit on him!" Maxx Williams is already looking good. Some of the 3-5th round guys will become fan favorites.

 

Same way, you could argue, that what looks like an epic draft turns out rotten. OBJ is a great athlete, but has sub-zero sportsmanship and could cost his team games, yellow flags are a pain and suspensions for bad behavior are worse (look no further than Burfinct, who by the way Ozzie did not draft when he could have). C.J. Mosley might have another great season and then decide he wants to become a lobster farmer instead. Timmy Jernigan still can turn out both ways.

 

From 2012 we still have Courtney Upshaw and Kelechi Osmele, both are impact players. From 2011 we have Jimmy Smith and had Torrey Smith, as well as Pernell McPhee, and Tyrod Tylor, who went on to become a starter. 2010 was Dennis Pitta (you can't predict such an injury) and Art Jones. Wait till contract year to evaluate the more recent drafts.

[DENNYK]

Harbaugh does not want Reed or Lewis anywhere near HIS Locker room. He was not very happy when they were here as players and had the respect and control that they had back then. Actually, he was relieved when they both left. It is now his way or the Highway as they say. Reed should do well once he knows his place in the coaching hierarchy. He will have some growing pains up in Buffalo, but Ryan should realize his value and be able to deal with his outspoken style. Ryan and Reed are of the same cloth to a degree. He is a good fit for Ryan and his team. He would not have had a fair chance here even if they did hire him as I see it. At ant rate, we should be looking for replacement Secondary coach sometime this year, if we see they same thing again in Training Camp. Once we clean out the fodder back there and can rely on those coming back from injury, we will see what we really need in that area.

[steelraven]

Harbaugh does not want Reed or Lewis anywhere near HIS Locker room. He was not very happy when they were here as players and had the respect and control that they had back then. Actually, he was relieved when they both left. It is now his way or the Highway as they say. Reed should do well once he knows his place in the coaching hierarchy. He will have some growing pains up in Buffalo, but Ryan should realize his value and be able to deal with his outspoken style. Ryan and Reed are of the same cloth to a degree. He is a good fit for Ryan and his team. He would not have had a fair chance here even if they did hire him as I see it. At ant rate, we should be looking for replacement Secondary coach sometime this year, if we see they same thing again in Training Camp. Once we clean out the fodder back there and can rely on those coming back from injury, we will see what we really need in that area.

Chip Kelly thought the same thing in Philly and he ruin that team. The Ravens aren't even the Ravens anymore. Right now they don't even have an identity and no leader in the locker room because you don't have that strong personality. The Ravens were never an out of control team. But when you have a bunch of robots walking around waiting for orders instead of players getting behind each other and standing up for each other you become weak. Players like Reed and Lewis were the epitome of the type of players coaches should want on their teams. Coaches can only coach, but the players play the game. When you see your leaders putting in work to be the best you have no choice but to follow suit. And now that Reed and Lewis are gone you can actually see the effect of their presence not being there. It seems like no one is on the same page especially in the secondary.

[playlikeawhat]

Oh, come now. This article made Harbs & co. look like catty, immature grudge holders. You don't experience his level of success as HC playing school girl politics w/ professional football personnel, do you?

[rmcjacket23]

If you still believe that there's absolutely no beef between harbs and Ed then you may be a bit delusional.

Harbs passed up on him when he was here. He passed up on him when he got released. He passed up on him when he was willing to come as a mentor at close to minimum salary. Harbs passed up on him when he was staying at home itching to get back. Harbs now passed up on him and we know for a fact that he's not asking to be a DC but in fact hes an assistant.

In the meantime, we have brought in young guys, free agents, aging vets. A whole bunch of safeties came and went and Ed would have helped us much more than most. Even if it was just as a mentor to our guys....

What does that tell you? Harbs fears loosing the locker room to Ed. Or there's unsettled business between the two.

If you have a better explanation please share because I for one hate picking sides between harbs and Ed. Two guys that I really love and respect.

Well, here's a valid explanation other than some fan conjured "o they hate each other" nonesense...

 

1. We let him walk in FA because he wasn't a very good football player at that time. We were validated in every possible way by this. 

 

2. To this day, I have no idea why fans automatically assume that great NFL players will automatically be great coaches. Literally, I don't even know the basis for this assumption. I mean if you really took a step back and looked at ALL of the great players to ever play this game... precisely how many of them have ever accomplished anything as a coach at any position in this league? I just want a percentage... I can say with certainty its a very, very, very low percentage.

 

3. At the end of the day, we are talking about a glorified internship here folks. That's what being an assistant secondary coach is on a professional football team. Until this announcement, I can say with certainty that close to 0% of fans on these boards could name even ONE assistant secondary coach in the entire NFL. NOT ONE. Now, all of the sudden, this position is so important that its going to transform our secondary into the Legion of Boom, and simultaneously the players on the team are going to follow the immense leadership of an assistant secondary coach (again, a glorified intern) and rebuff the leadership of the HC who's been here for many years.

 

Sorry folks, but as popular as Ed Reed is in this town and to myself personally, he's not even close to polarizing enough or a big enough leader that the locker room is going to start listening to an assistant secondary coach more than they are going to listen to the HC.

 

Its certainly possible that Ed holds animosity towards the organization... after all, we didn't resign him when his contract was up and he went and played elsewhere where he thought he was wanted. Hopefully, after that season was over, he realized that the Ravens largely made the correct decision, but who knows if that's the case. Either way, kind of hard to realistically place blame on the Ravens for that. I get that fans want to see all their favorite players stay here forever, but when the player has unrealistic expectations about his future, the franchise is better off moving on.

[harfordravenfan]

"Rub the coaches the wrong way" what a bunch of big Babies. I'm seriously getting tired of these guys antics.

 

I maybe off base here but using this year as an example... our team stayed together and kept at it regardless off their record. It only takes one loose cog (distraction) to screw up the team philosophy. Although I doubt it Reed was that bad, gotta ask... would you take burflict, or another high talent player with a bad attitude on ur team? Again, I didn't ever think Reed was that much of a distraction (or Pollard and I miss them both) but it's his team to run and our choice to support them. This board is meant for opinions so not saying what anyone should or shouldn't think, just assuming there was reasons he left and reasons he ain't coaching here.

Honestly though, I think Reed would rather work for Rex any day of the week (he was always loved by our defensive players back then)

[Crusader]

"Honestly though, I think Reed would rather work for Rex any day of the week (he was always loved by our defensive players back then" So true but see Ed Reed Any were else is like seeing our US Sailors on their knees with Iranians pointing guns to their head. Gut Wrenching besides I know Ed and he was never that type of troublemaker but he is a Alpha male.

[Crusader]

"Most Ravens coaches and players will acknowledge Reed's brilliance. They will also agree he wasn't the most coachable player." That's a Great thing! Just look how good the last three years the Ravens have been WITH these coaches coaching!

[TheConquerorWorm]

but they also played some crappy teams in the second half of the season with some bad offenses that can make the #8 ranking misleading. against the better teams like seattle and kc the defense was awful. cincy was missing dalton and the steelers had close to 400 yds in their loss. we were the 9th worst team as far as pts against. pees is not aggressive or creative enough to bring this defense back to being the bully on the block. i wish him the best because he is the dc for next season and i do not want to miss the playoffs again so i hope he improves scheme wise. secondary coaches should have definitely been replaced.

The Bills and Colts had much easier schedules. Schemes and players go hand in hand. Sure, we all like Ryan's organized chaos but guess what? Ryan's scheme calls for the OLB to play more in coverage (which is why he moved Suggs to DE while he was here). Pees' scheme creates 1 on 1 match-ups with the OLB. So my question to you is - would you rather have Sizzle and Doom drop back into coverage or would you rather give them 1 on 1 matchups (You can see what those results produced last year). Trying to fit square players into the round holes of your scheme doesn't work (You can see those results from the Bills this year).

 

In today's NFL (especially with the two hand touch rules), teams and offenses are too good at beating those aggressive  defenses. Rob Ryan's version of "organized chaos" hasn't worked at any of the 4 stops (now 5) where he was the DC. And while Rex's teams may have ranked higher on overall defense, he's never had any success in the play-offs. Partly because you have to invest so much in your personnel on defense to make it work, that you have nothing left to spend on offensive players.

 

Pees' scheme may seem "boring" to some but just like Belichick's "boring" offense, it works because it wins more games than it loses.

[Ravensfolyfe]

Good for him.

[Ravensfansince03]

Whether it is or isn't won't show immediately with most guys. Of course, I'm glad we have C.J. Mosley, he's awesome. At this point you just don't know. I'm wildly fabulating, but it could turn out, that Breshad Perriman is the best WR Ravens have ever drafted and he'll be here for the next 12 years, Elam might train hard, and master one position so that he can become a solid starter and we'll all forget his sophomore year, except for those few guys in five years who'll go "I told you not to quit on him!" Maxx Williams is already looking good. Some of the 3-5th round guys will become fan favorites.

 

Same way, you could argue, that what looks like an epic draft turns out rotten. OBJ is a great athlete, but has sub-zero sportsmanship and could cost his team games, yellow flags are a pain and suspensions for bad behavior are worse (look no further than Burfinct, who by the way Ozzie did not draft when he could have). C.J. Mosley might have another great season and then decide he wants to become a lobster farmer instead. Timmy Jernigan still can turn out both ways.

 

From 2012 we still have Courtney Upshaw and Kelechi Osmele, both are impact players. From 2011 we have Jimmy Smith and had Torrey Smith, as well as Pernell McPhee, and Tyrod Tylor, who went on to become a starter. 2010 was Dennis Pitta (you can't predict such an injury) and Art Jones. Wait till contract year to evaluate the more recent drafts.

 

You make a good point

[The Greek]

there are plenty of players that can be locker room leaders on this team but they choose not to be as over the top as ray lewis was. none of us know what haappens on the sidelines or in the locker rooms. this team could have pointed fingers at each other or been in the spotlight for negative things with the season they had but they did not crack and played tough in almost every game which shows me that there was leadership that kept them together. this team just needs some game changing players and help from the injury gods

[Guest]

So Ozzie Newsome made a good decision in regard to not drafting Lawrence Phillips...Ok.....but why are all of Ozzies good decisions 10 to 20 years old?

[rmcjacket23]

So Ozzie Newsome made a good decision in regard to not drafting Lawrence Phillips...Ok.....but why are all of Ozzies good decisions 10 to 20 years old?

LOL, needless to say, there's been a few dozen since then...

[Crusader]

I bet Bills have better secondary stats than the Ravens next year

[riseNConquer81]

If you still believe that there's absolutely no beef between harbs and Ed then you may be a bit delusional.

you have it backwards.

Harbs passed up on him when he was here.

he cant be a player and a coach at the same time....

He passed up on him when he got released.

he never got released. his contract ran out, there were negotiations, he chose a more lucrative deal with Houston in free agency...

He passed up on him when he was willing to come as a mentor at close to minimum salary.

...dont even know what you're talking about here, sounds like you're making things up...

Harbs passed up on him when he was staying at home itching to get back.

as a player. His career as a player was rightfully at an end. Nobody shouldve been signing him...

Harbs now passed up on him and we know for a fact that he's not asking to be a DC but in fact hes an assistant.

defined "passed up on him."

Nobody in their right mind was going to make Ed Reed a DC when he has zero coaching experience, so thats a moot point, you dont make any sense.

In the meantime, we have brought in young guys, free agents, aging vets. A whole bunch of safeties came and went and Ed would have helped us much more than most. Even if it was just as a mentor to our guys....

no he wouldnt. And he doesnt have to be on the roster to mentor people...

What does that tell you?

Harbs fears loosing the locker room to Ed. Or there's unsettled business between the two.

half of this is fairytales, and the other half is irrelecant nonsensical banter from an enthusiastic fan who is having trouble coming to terms with the reality that Ed Reed's days as an elite or even servicable player have long been over, so outside of how active your imagination is: it tells me nothing.