I Want The Steelers One More Time.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='PuRock' post='126499' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:03 PM']I'm trying not to choose who we should play. But my blantant hatred for the Steelers makes it hard for me to root for them.[/quote]
Agreed. And since I hate both teams, watching this game makes me sick to my stomach.

[codizzle]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='126508' date='Jan 11 2009, 04:06 PM']Agreed. And since I hate both teams, watching this game makes me sick to my stomach.[/quote]
yea same here but i would like to shut up hines and rivers. they both talk to much

[Ryan561]

its a win win situations i guess.

[Ravnet]

The only advantage of playing in San Diego would be the reduction of crowd noise.

[thehoo]

i want a midget to run on the field and kick River's in the balls or Big Jen I would take that too.

[codizzle]

[quote name='thehoo' post='126514' date='Jan 11 2009, 04:08 PM']i want a midget to run on the field and kick River's in the balls or Big Jen I would take that too.[/quote]
lol that was random ... i like it

[missraven5]

That was a quick 7 for Pitt!

[NC Ravens Fan]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='126504' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:04 PM']How is a great return lucky?[/quote]
i forgot punt/kick returns happen so often theres no luck involved. sorry oh all knowing one
two guys running right next to him yet neither one figures out to just shove him out of bounds
lucky

[Ravnet]

[quote name='NC Ravens Fan' post='126520' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:10 PM']i forgot punt/kick returns happen so often theres no luck involved. sorry oh all knowing one
two guys running right next to him yet neither one figures out to just shove him out of bounds
lucky[/quote]

So because something doesn't happen often, that automatically makes it lucky? Huh?

[NC Ravens Fan]

yes. if a kick/punt return was based solely on skill and nothing else they would be more common
as it would become a learned skill of the game like a long field goal

its ok though i forgot youre a not so in the closet steeler fan

[Ryan561]

I think playing the steelers would be in our favor!

[thehoo]

You guys are so silly.

[Ravnet]

[quote]its ok though i forgot youre a not so in the closet steeler fan[/quote]

I still don't get why people have to resort to calling me a Steelers fan.

You called a great kick return by Holmes lucky, and I questioned your logic. You then reasoned that because returns for touchdowns are rare, they are therefore lucky. I disagreed.
[quote]yes. if a kick/punt return was based solely on skill and nothing else they would be more common
as it would become a learned skill of the game like a long field goal[/quote]

I think that kick/punt returns for touchdowns are rare simply because it is extremely hard to pick up every single gunman and keep them blocked until the play is over. Just because an interception for a touchdown is rare, that doesn't make it lucky. Would you say that Ed's returns are lucky?

[NC Ravens Fan]

yes as a matter of fact i would say that his returns have quite a bit of luck to them

[thehoo]

Good point! I was going to throw Devin Hester out there to help your point. I think what is boils down to his the mentality of the blocking. With Ed our defense snaps into an offense with the mind set of blocking.

[codizzle]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='126536' date='Jan 11 2009, 04:18 PM']I still don't get why people have to resort to calling me a Steelers fan.

You called a great kick return by Holmes lucky, and I questioned your logic. You then reasoned that because returns for touchdowns are rare, they are therefore lucky. I disagreed.


I think that kick/punt returns for touchdowns are rare simply because it is extremely hard to pick up every single gunman and keep them blocked until the play is over. Just because an interception for a touchdown is rare, that doesn't make it lucky. Would you say that Ed's returns are lucky?[/quote]
lol just go ahead and change your avatar and siggy.... ill find u a terrible towel pic or something lol

[Ravnet]

[quote name='NC Ravens Fan' post='126541' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:21 PM']yes as a matter of fact i would say that his returns have quite a bit of luck to them[/quote]

I'm trying to refute that point by comparing it to interceptions for touchdowns. They're rare, but would you reason that Ed's returns are lucky?

[Moderator 2]

Ravnet did you forget this post? [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?showtopic=6340&st=20&p=117944&#entry117944"]Here[/url] The fallout turned into a smack fest we had to clean up, and its not happening this week please.

[NC Ravens Fan]

the only difference i see between the two as that he has done it so many times that it shows that is a skill of his
like someone mentioned above about hester a few years back. he had learned the skill of returning because of it
happening so often.
now to go back to the play at hand, had holmes been returning punts for huge gains and tds all year i may not consider it
as so lucky but thats not the case. just random luck

[Ravnet]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='126558' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:25 PM']Ravnet did you forget this post? [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?showtopic=6340&st=20&p=117944&#entry117944"]Here[/url] The fallout turned into a smack fest we had to clean up, and its not happening this week please.[/quote]

...

Alright, you either cannot detect sarcasm at all, or I'm very bad at getting my point across.

I've also admitted to being a ten year season ticket holder, which you either may not have ever gotten the chance to read, or just chose to think that I attended every Baltimore game, yet still supported the Steelers...

(Taken from my response in another thread).

[thehoo]

Yeah I am going to have to go with NC on this one.

[thehoo]

The fact you are so defensive about it makes me question it.

[NC Ravens Fan]

how long youve held tickets doesnt prove you to be a fan of our team.
when i had tickets i had the same titans fan sit two rows in front of me for years
every game he would root against us it was hilarious

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='126564' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:27 PM']...

Alright, you either cannot detect sarcasm at all, or I'm very bad at getting my point across.

I've also admitted to being a ten year season ticket holder, which you either may not have ever gotten the chance to read, or just chose to think that I attended every Baltimore game, yet still supported the Steelers...

(Taken from my response in another thread).[/quote]
You asked!

[Ravnet]

[quote name='NC Ravens Fan' post='126560' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:26 PM']the only difference i see between the two as that he has done it so many times that it shows that is a skill of his
like someone mentioned above about hester a few years back. he had learned the skill of returning because of it
happening so often.
now to go back to the play at hand, had holmes been returning punts for huge gains and tds all year i may not consider it
as so lucky but thats not the case. just random luck[/quote]

We simply disagree. I think that Holmes doesn't get kick returns for touchdowns all that often because he isn't the only returnman, he hasn't been in the league all that long, and bringing back kicks is a very hard task. If a player had slipped and/or completely whiffed, then it would've been luck, but in this situation, Santonio just had a great return.

[Moderator 2]

I can't imagine how anyone is getting good footing right now.

[thehoo]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='126574' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:30 PM']I can't imagine how anyone is getting good footing right now.[/quote]


longer cleats i guess

[NC Ravens Fan]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='126573' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:30 PM']We simply disagree. I think that Holmes doesn't get kick returns for touchdowns all that often because he isn't the only returnman, he hasn't been in the league all that long, and bringing back kicks is a very hard task. If a player had slipped and/or completely whiffed, then it would've been luck, but in this situation, Santonio just had a great return.[/quote]
there were chargers running down the sidelines right next to him that brain farted and didnt push him out of bounds thats as bad as a whiff

[Ravnet]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='126558' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:25 PM']Ravnet did you forget this post? [url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?showtopic=6340&st=20&p=117944&#entry117944"]Here[/url] The fallout turned into a smack fest we had to clean up, and its not happening this week please.[/quote]

I understand that you don't want things getting out of hand, but it is kind of frustrating that I cannot make a single post without being called an idiot, told to shut up, or accused of being a Steelers fan. I stray from the mainstream train of thought, and people apparently can't handle that. I'm honestly just trying to improve the board by bringing in a different perspective.

Most of the original members and/or people that were here through the thick and thin may not agree with me, but they value my opinion. It seems like some of the posters who have just joined resort to insulting me and aren't interested in actually discussing anything.

[NC Ravens Fan]

dont let my join date and post count fool you if you want to go there ive been reading for some time and i dont have
all day to sit on the internet and bulk up my post count

if you want to have a different way of thinking thats fine but youre a fool if you think you wont get called out for it