Stunned after Saturday

[Tank 92]

Not sure how Camp convo came into this thread, but the only thing keeping him from being an NFL star is his health.  Dude has that special something that could place him a cut above.  Sadly, we may never see that happen because he just can't stay on the field.

 

Back on topic.......  I'm stunned anyone would fear either one of those teams after last Saturday. Both seem to be headed south.

[Winchester]

Obviously someone has a man crush on Campanaro. To say that Edelman and Amendola are not as fast or coordinated to adjust to errant throws as Campanaro is nothing more than pure homer talk! Camp has TWELVE catches over 2 years and you're saying he excels in certain areas of the game over Edelman and Amendola? Please stop looking at what he did at Wake and trying to compare it with Edelman and Amendola's NFL production. He's playing at a different level now. In all honesty, he shouldn't even be mentioned with Edelman and Amendola based off of what he's done so far in 2 years.

We all hope that Camp becomes an x-factor for this offense, but right now he's FAR from it.

Tons of college play. Watch Edelman when he has to turn and adjust. He looks dizzy and uncomfortable. Probably why he drops a lot of them. Amendola is actually a little better at high pointing and harder adjustments than Edelman. It is not like Campanaro hasn't the athleticism to adjust to the NFL. Find out what dbacks say about covering Campanaro. And he will get better. Do you know ANYTHING about his off season regimen?? And how many athletes in many sports it helped improve and avoid injury?? It is similar to a former NFL players training and nutrition routine.

[The Mom Gene]

I'm hoping that  KC beats the snot out of Br*dy.

[Winchester]

I do not like the patsies but their oline is shameful!! If Brady can win with that then have to give them just due. I'm rooting for Arizona to win the Superbowl. Brady is arrogant and Gizelle looks like an X of mine that was sneaky and selfish after seeming so happy and fun loving at first( She is actually from owings mills lol,hope you are not her mom). And I'm so sure Gizelle has a different side when the camera is not rolling. And Brady lies with a straight face. But rooting for him to get roughened up behind that OLine is almost unfair!! lol

I'm hoping that  KC beats the snot out of Br*dy.

[MTRavensFan]

I'm hoping that  KC beats the snot out of Br*dy.

me, too, Mom, me too.

[usmccharles]

I'm hoping that KC beats the snot out of Br*dy.

I bet everyone wants that

[ALPHA]

Tons of college play. Watch Edelman when he has to turn and adjust. He looks dizzy and uncomfortable. Probably why he drops a lot of them. Amendola is actually a little better at high pointing and harder adjustments than Edelman. It is not like Campanaro hasn't the athleticism to adjust to the NFL. Find out what dbacks say about covering Campanaro. And he will get better. Do you know ANYTHING about his off season regimen?? And how many athletes in many sports it helped improve and avoid injury?? It is similar to a former NFL players training and nutrition routine.

 

Campanaro has talent but he's also made of glass, so as time goes on his talent and contribution diminishes. You can make this make sense on paper the reality is he's done nothing.

[757RavensFan]

Tons of college play. Watch Edelman when he has to turn and adjust. He looks dizzy and uncomfortable. Probably why he drops a lot of them. Amendola is actually a little better at high pointing and harder adjustments than Edelman. It is not like Campanaro hasn't the athleticism to adjust to the NFL. Find out what dbacks say about covering Campanaro. And he will get better. Do you know ANYTHING about his off season regimen?? And how many athletes in many sports it helped improve and avoid injury?? It is similar to a former NFL players training and nutrition routine.

Edelman had 10 catches tonight two shy of Campanaro's career total of 12! LOL

[Winchester]

Edelman had 10 catches tonight two shy of Campanaro's career total of 12! LOL

He has 7 yrs of chemistry with Brady. That would mean Edelman is better than every young receiver in the league. At some point a team has to find players who the coaches have confidence in to make the jump. Shanahan showed so much confidence in Rod Smith and McCaffrey he cut 2 round one players including a pro bowler!! Campanaro has the skills he just needs to play. The patsies did not even want Edelman back at one point. He looked around and signed for the minimum.

[usmccharles]

He has 7 yrs of chemistry with Brady. That would mean Edelman is better than every young receiver in the league. At some point a team has to find players who the coaches have confidence in to make the jump. Shanahan showed so much confidence in Rod Smith and McCaffrey he cut 2 round one players including a pro bowler!! Campanaro has the skills he just needs to play. The patsies did not even want Edelman back at one point. He looked around and signed for the minimum.

I love camp as well but all he had is potential. You can't blame edlemen for playing years with Brady, that's what the game is about and camp could be a edlemen or Welker... But if he never stays healthy we will never know. You can't keep saying camp has more talent than these players when camp has proven nothing... He has show flashes of talent and that's hit. Hell, Peyton hillishills hamonstrous ous year then disappeared, camp hadn't even down that. I can understand your love fest for him, especially since he's a home grown talent and a good guy, but you are definitely drunk off of some purple kool-aid when speaking about him. But I hope he does turn into what you say... I just don't think he will ever will be.. He's a "worde" Amendola Edited January 17, 2016 by usmccharles

[Winchester]

I love camp as well but all he had is potential. You can't blame edlemen for playing years with Brady, that's what the game is about and camp could be a edlemen or Welker... But if he never stays healthy we will never know. You can't keep saying camp has more talent than these players when camp has proven nothing... He has show flashes of talent and that's hit. Hell, Peyton hillishills hamonstrous ous year then disappeared, camp hadn't even down that. I can understand your love fest for him, especially since he's a home grown talent and a good guy, but you are definitely drunk off of some purple kool-aid when speaking about him. But I hope he does turn into what you say... I just don't think he will ever will be.. He's a "worde" Amendola

Much better work ethic than Amendola!! Keep this in mind. Every pro bowler has to begin somewhere. Especially if he is a late round pick. And I watched enough of him to see and believe he has pro bowl caliber skills. And I know a little about his off season tickets training regimen and what it has yielded for different athletes of many different sports. And I am not somebody who drinks purple look aid or Homer cocktails. My opinion on a player has little to do with his uniform. I do not hope and overrate every player who plays for the ravens!! I do not want Matthews Butler or Givens back. I am even reserved on Aiken having a good year again. I root for players that show upper tier raw athleticism, explosion and power. And I like KO's chances of being a pro bowl left tackle.

[usmccharles]

Much better work ethic than Amendola!! Keep this in mind. Every pro bowler has to begin somewhere. Especially if he is a late round pick. And I watched enough of him to see and believe he has pro bowl caliber skills. And I know a little about his off season tickets training regimen and what it has yielded for different athletes of many different sports. And I am not somebody who drinks purple look aid or Homer cocktails. My opinion on a player has little to do with his uniform. I do not hope and overrate every player who plays for the ravens!! I do not want Matthews Butler or Givens back. I am even reserved on Aiken having a good year again. I root for players that show upper tier raw athleticism, explosion and power. And I like KO's chances of being a pro bowl left tackle.

doesn't matter where he was picked, even if he was a first rounder he still shouldn't get that much praise for doing abosulety nothing. There's a lot of players with freak athletic ability, but there's always a reason why they don't pan out, his is health. I'd like to look up his entire injury history just to know, but he is definitely injury prone.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I like Campanaro as much as the next guy but he has shown absolutely nothing.. Time to go to work... And damn this is going to suck. 

 

And the ravens have Campanaro returning from an offseason on an island to condition for football. He wants to be great. Maxx is doing something similar but not quite that intense. Pro day is returning and ravens could draft Treadwell if wanted. That qualifies as better than the rivals considering the violent Oline!! Pittsburgh and cinci have better RBs only. Spiller would be interesting behind that Oline.

 

 

Kaepernick was working with Kurt Warner to be a better passer. But that amounted to nothing... This is coming from a guy who likes Camp, but this might amount to nothing. 

 

 

 

The ravens Offensive line dominated cinci and Pittsburgh at times!! Jensen beat up Atkins and stonewalled Tuitt!! If ravens fronted legit playmakers the offense would of put up a considerable lead by halftime. Next year with Campanaro, Perriman, Tread and an in shape and faster Maxx and a dominating OLine the ravens will drop 30+ points on cinci and Pittsburgh and sweep the division.

 

Gino Atikins had several pressures last games and made a considerable impact in the run game. 

 

And there's you setting up Maxx for failure in your own mind again. 

 

 

 

Perriman will have a bigger impact than Campanaro?? What are you basing that on?? Travis Snailor was supposed to have a bigger impact than Stokley once Taylor returned from injury. NEVER HAPPENED!! I mean pro day may have a bigger impact. It would be ideal for the tandem to play 19 games and be impact players. But what are you basing this on?? Pro day Perriman being a #1 pick and his pro day numbers?? He has size on Campanaro. Do you place much importance on intelligence and work ethic?? Do you know ANYTHING about Campanaros offseason training and nutrition program or the results it or similar training regimens typically produce?? In regards to avoiding injury, strength, speed and athleticism.

Pittsburgh receivers are better than anything the ravens fronted this yr. However ravens have young and talented receivers returning from injury. And will add a significant receiver in the draft and or free agency or trade. Bryant is a great athlete but limited in other ways. He did not make much impact down the stretch. Wheaton plays with little instincts or feel for the receiver position but need to respect his speed. I never said the ravens offense was better in the recent games played. When the ravens add a significant receiver and if are all playing with that overpowering OLine the ravens offense is going to surprise everybody.

 

Ironic since Camp has also been injured most of his career likewise. Perriman has stronger hands, is physical, and damn fast. His true problem is concentration drops. I watched a ton of his tape dude. Trust me. He's got the potential to be a legit #1. And Nutrition???? Coming as someone who's in the know about it, it's important but what the hell does it have to do with preventing injury? If you were to tell me that eating spinach actually turned me into Popeye I would never lose a fight and make me immune to injury I'd be on that crap constantly. I'm basing that on his combination of physicality, athleticism, and pretty strong hands. Oh and not to mention. In a pro offense Perriman broke 1000 yards. Camp as the top option never did that. So we can ignore Perriman's pro day and stats? And Camp's pro day is fair game as well as his stats. Definition of hypocrisy folks. 

 

 

 

And how the hell do YOU know about this?  "connections" I am supposing right. Are you his personal trainer? Are you also his nutritionist? 

 

I want Treadwell. I think Treadwell-Perriman-and Camp is a good WR corps potentially. But I am probably wrong. But to say we drop 30 points a game? No thanks. 

[PurpleCity5]

What's the point of this? Pittsburgh and Cincinnati looked very unimpressive to me. 

[usmccharles]

What's the point of this? Pittsburgh and Cincinnati looked very unimpressive to me.

that's what I find histerical. The OP acts like it was a 45-47 shoot out... If there's anything to be worried about its stopping aj green and brown for the next couple of years.

[Winchester]

I like Campanaro as much as the next guy but he has shown absolutely nothing.. Time to go to work... And damn this is going to suck.

Kaepernick was working with Kurt Warner to be a better passer. But that amounted to nothing... This is coming from a guy who likes Camp, but this might amount to nothing.

Gino Atikins had several pressures last games and made a considerable impact in the run game.

And there's you setting up Maxx for failure in your own mind again.

Ironic since Camp has also been injured most of his career likewise. Perriman has stronger hands, is physical, and damn fast. His true problem is concentration drops. I watched a ton of his tape dude. Trust me. He's got the potential to be a legit #1. And Nutrition???? Coming as someone who's in the know about it, it's important but what the hell does it have to do with preventing injury? If you were to tell me that eating spinach actually turned me into Popeye I would never lose a fight and make me immune to injury I'd be on that crap constantly. I'm basing that on his combination of physicality, athleticism, and pretty strong hands. Oh and not to mention. In a pro offense Perriman broke 1000 yards. Camp as the top option never did that. So we can ignore Perriman's pro day and stats? And Camp's pro day is fair game as well as his stats. Definition of hypocrisy folks.

And how the hell do YOU know about this? "connections" I am supposing right. Are you his personal trainer? Are you also his nutritionist?

I want Treadwell. I think Treadwell-Perriman-and Camp is a good WR corps potentially. But I am probably wrong. But to say we drop 30 points a game? No thanks.

Combine numbers hold more water than a small school pro day!! Show me a single play where pro day looks 4.2 40!! Show me a single scout that said he looked 4.2 or even 4.3 on tape. I know of none!! Pro day has a pro bowl qb in college throwing to him. HOWEVER Perriman is fast and has great burst and acceleration in his cuts. And I do have hopes for pro day. I know a dude that ran like a 4.2 or 4.3 at Pittsburgs pro day years back was undrafted and never ran below 4.4 at camp for teams like the steelers,raiders and ravens. So pro days do not hold as much water.

What does nutrition have to do with preventing injury??lol EVERYTHING!! Prticular foods and supplements. Strengthen muscles ligaments and tendons as well as hydrate,moisten and help muscles ligaments tendons and even skin become more elastic to prevent injury and tear. While particular foods actually do the opposite. Social beverages like beer wine whisky makes muscle ligament and tendon injuries more likely. Nutrition can actually help run faster. Interesting isn't it?? I know something about Campanaros program. It has helped many athletes from many sports from preventing injuries to becoming a better more explosive athlete. Adam Archuletta gained like 16 inches on his vertical on a program following similar principles. Not that Campanaro isn't explosive enough. If his workouts help him avoid injuries he is going to be a heck of a player!! And with the best OLine in the NFL there is no reason Treadwell Campanaro Perriman Maxx and Gilmore can not average 30 points or more a game. Treadwell is Hoover vacuum. Perriman has speed and ball skills and Campanaro runs sudden fast routes with underrated ball skills. Maxx will be like a big receiver with seam speed and blocking skills and Gilmore can catch well and is like an extra tackle blocking. Ravens will mix run and throw very well. And Jensen played Atkins very well and dominated at times. As a matter of fact he outplayed Yanda in the Pittsburgh game. Are you really comparing a qb dumber than a rock not making strides to a receiver?? And a silky smooth TE that just needs some more explosion?? And yeah in case you are wondering losing fat and gaining muscle results in more explosion. And yes it is a proven fact. Losing fat and gaining muscle is not just for attracting the opposite sex.lol although it sure helps

Edited January 17, 2016 by Winchester

[usmccharles]

Combine numbers hold more water than a small school pro day!! Show me a single play where pro day looks 4.2 40!! Show me a single scout that said he looked 4.2 or even 4.3 on tape. I know of none!! Pro day has a pro bowl qb in college throwing to him. HOWEVER Perriman is fast and has great burst and acceleration in his cuts. And I do have hopes for pro day. I know a dude that ran like a 4.2 or 4.3 at Pittsburgs pro day years back was undrafted and never ran below 4.4 at camp for teams like the steelers,raiders and ravens. So pro days do not hold as much water.

What does nutrition have to do with preventing injury??lol EVERYTHING!! Prticular foods and supplements. Strengthen muscles ligaments and tendons as well as hydrate,moisten and help muscles ligaments tendons and even skin become more elastic to prevent injury and tear. While particular foods actually do the opposite. Social beverages like beer wine whisky makes muscle ligament and tendon injuries more likely. Nutrition can actually help run faster. Interesting isn't it?? I know something about Campanaros program. It has helped many athletes from many sports from preventing injuries to becoming a better more explosive athlete. Adam Archuletta gained like 16 inches on his vertical on a program following similar principles. Not that Campanaro isn't explosive enough. If his workouts help him avoid injuries he is going to be a heck of a player!! And with the best OLine in the NFL there is no reason Treadwell Campanaro Perriman Maxx and Gilmore can not average 30 points or more a game. Treadwell is Hoover vacuum. Perriman has speed and ball skills and Campanaro runs sudden fast routes with underrated ball skills. Maxx will be like a big receiver with seam speed and blocking skills and Gilmore can catch well and is like an extra tackle blocking. Ravens will mix run and throw very well. And Jensen played Atkins very well and dominated at times. As a matter of fact he outplayed Yanda in the Pittsburgh game. Are you really comparing a qb dumber than a rock not making strides to a receiver?? And a silky smooth TE that just needs some more explosion?? And yeah in case you are wondering losing fat and gaining muscle results in more explosion. And yes it is a proven fact. Losing fat and gaining muscle is not just for attracting the opposite sex.lol although it sure helps

BP had a qb that couldnt ever throw a deep ball, if you notice his tape he is always coming back to the ball...and making good catches. 

 

And 16 inches added on to a vertical, please pm me with this workout routine, id love to start dunking on people at the gym

[Dr. Kelley]

I'm hoping that KC beats the snot out of Br*dy.

......and how'd that go

[usmccharles]

He played with Blake Bortles til his last year. I like a lot about Perriman. Wanna dunk huh?? lol How old are you?? What is your height and weight and how close can you get to the rim??

his last year is what I was talking about...

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Combine numbers hold more water than a small school pro day!! Show me a single play where pro day looks 4.2 40!! Show me a single scout that said he looked 4.2 or even 4.3 on tape. I know of none!! Pro day has a pro bowl qb in college throwing to him. HOWEVER Perriman is fast and has great burst and acceleration in his cuts. And I do have hopes for pro day. I know a dude that ran like a 4.2 or 4.3 at Pittsburgs pro day years back was undrafted and never ran below 4.4 at camp for teams like the steelers,raiders and ravens. So pro days do not hold as much water.

What does nutrition have to do with preventing injury??lol EVERYTHING!! Prticular foods and supplements. Strengthen muscles ligaments and tendons as well as hydrate,moisten and help muscles ligaments tendons and even skin become more elastic to prevent injury and tear. While particular foods actually do the opposite. Social beverages like beer wine whisky makes muscle ligament and tendon injuries more likely. Nutrition can actually help run faster. Interesting isn't it?? I know something about Campanaros program. It has helped many athletes from many sports from preventing injuries to becoming a better more explosive athlete. Adam Archuletta gained like 16 inches on his vertical on a program following similar principles. Not that Campanaro isn't explosive enough. If his workouts help him avoid injuries he is going to be a heck of a player!! And with the best OLine in the NFL there is no reason Treadwell Campanaro Perriman Maxx and Gilmore can not average 30 points or more a game. Treadwell is Hoover vacuum. Perriman has speed and ball skills and Campanaro runs sudden fast routes with underrated ball skills. Maxx will be like a big receiver with seam speed and blocking skills and Gilmore can catch well and is like an extra tackle blocking. Ravens will mix run and throw very well. And Jensen played Atkins very well and dominated at times. As a matter of fact he outplayed Yanda in the Pittsburgh game. Are you really comparing a qb dumber than a rock not making strides to a receiver?? And a silky smooth TE that just needs some more explosion?? And yeah in case you are wondering losing fat and gaining muscle results in more explosion. And yes it is a proven fact. Losing fat and gaining muscle is not just for attracting the opposite sex.lol although it sure helps

Perriman is a lot faster than Camp. The guy is beyond explosive. Far more than Camp. It's true, sorry. Oh, and media scouts? Very few of them are that reliable. It goes, Mayock, Jerimiah, and at times Matt Miller. All of them didn't say specifics, but they all said blazing speed. And he honestly did play at a 4.3 speed. 

 

Oh I know that... Nutrition as I said is very important in maintaining your health(why I don't drink, IT'S CRAZY BAD FOR YOU). And for the normal person, that's true.

 

 

BUT. I highly doubt Campanaro, aka an NFL WR with a far more impressive physique than you or I, had no issues of that to begin with. He's in pretty fantastic shape anyway which probably means his diet to begin with wasn't the problem.  And you do realize that this is a CONTACT SPORT right. These defensive players are coming in very quickly. Basic physics. Speed = power. Then you also have to account for their weight. Yeah, I highly doubt a change in nutrition will fully prevent a devastating injury to the knee, arm, chest. 

 

Oh and Camp is 185 pounds. Little guy. Highly doubt he'll bulk up. He's going against Dbacks and LBs that are in a significantly different weight class that are roughly the same speed as he is. Most of them(not all of them) got anywhere from 10-20 pounds on him. The linebackers got a lot more. 

 

It's Like Taking a Mack Truck going at 60 mph and putting it against a smart car going at 60 mph. The Truck wins every time. 

 

It can help with explosiveness. I've experience it. That's true and proven. But preventing injuries? In this sport? No..

 

Let's look at SSR. He's one of the toughest guys to ever take the field at the WR position. 

http://www.kffl.com/player/288/nfl/injury_history/steve-smith

 

Lots of injuries. 

 

Wes Welker? Elite slot WR. Whether you want to admit it or not, good route runner. Tough guy. Good player for many years. 

http://www.kffl.com/player/10224/nfl/injury_history/wes-welker

 

Julian Edelman? Damn good slot guy. 

http://www.kffl.com/player/21170/nfl/injury_history/julian-edelman

 

Randall Cobb is probably the best slot WR in the NFL right now

http://www.kffl.com/player/23988/nfl/injury_history/randall-cobb

 

Has been put in IR due to injury

Brandin Cooks broke his thumb. But if he gets decked I'd bet more money than not he's getting hurt. And he's a hell of a lot more explosive than Campanaro. 

 

You have your exceptions to the rule in Browns(John and Antonio). Antonio has missed a few games in his career and is about to miss another. John is surprisingly durable. 

 

Point is. Camp has an uphill battle. Nutrition isn't going to fix that. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Little guys will tend to have injuries. 

[PurpleCity5]

that's what I find histerical. The OP acts like it was a 45-47 shoot out... If there's anything to be worried about its stopping aj green and brown for the next couple of years.

Exactly. Both of them were pretty bad honestly, I just don't see what was so great about either of them.

[usmccharles]

This Is quite entertaining. Winchester, I'm intrigued on what you do for a living, pm if you don't want to post it. Man I wish you used paragraphs lol

I dont think anyone anyone on here doesn't think camp could be great for us, it'd just his health, 12 catches in two years just wont cut it

Edited January 17, 2016 by usmccharles

[757RavensFan]

I do not want Matthews Butler or Givens back. I am even reserved on Aiken having a good year again.

I'm sure you don't want them back bc if they make it that means Camp probably won't. Aiken probably won't have as many catches next season if SSS and Perriman come back healthy. But what Aiken has proved is he's the only receiver that stayed healthy all 16 games for us.

[ratedr]

I feel the opposite. The quality of football has been pretty low all around this playoff year. Play like we did in 2014 and we're easy SB contenders again.

[757RavensFan]

Hey, there's a new article just posted this morning about Campanaro in the News section of the forum. Doesn't mention any unique training just that he's working out at the Castle all off season. Have at it!

[Winchester]

I'm sure you don't want them back bc if they make it that means Camp probably won't. Aiken probably won't have as many catches next season if SSS and Perriman come back healthy. But what Aiken has proved is he's the only receiver that stayed healthy all 16 games for us.

Has nothing to do with Campanaro playing. I do not care for what those receivers bring to the party. And yes Aiken played 16 games and played well.

[The Mom Gene]

......and how'd that go

One can only hope...

 

And now I'm hoping that Von Miller and Damarcus Ware do. 

[harfordravenfan]

One can only hope...

 

And now I'm hoping that Von Miller and Damarcus Ware do. 

 

You and I are on the same page

[Moderator 3]

Would you two please stop hijacking the thread with your "mine's bigger" conversation? I really don't feel like having to drop the hammer.

[-Truth-]

My cheekbones are sore from all the cringing.