[News] Eisenberg: Pleasure To Be Found In Rooting Against Enemies

[RavensBaltimore]

Nahhhh not me whobilly. I DO NOT want to see the Cheatriots win. They don't deserve it. Steelers?? I'd rather see them go on than the Bungles. And as far as the Redskins, I like Kirk Cousins. I like his swagger. I also like Alex Smith. I'm an underdog rooter. But I would love to see the Broncos, P*triots, Steelers, and Bengals all get booted... I'll root for the NFC this year for my own personal satisfaction...

If you don't want to see NE win, then you should probably root against the Bengals today. If Cinci loses, the Chiefs will go to NE, and I think they have a better chance of beating them than the Bengals, who will go to NE if they win today.

[Militant X 1]

You can't be a true Ravens fan and root for the Steelers under any circumstances. Steeler fans never root for the Ravens. Just the way it is.

 

Not true!

 

I had many friends that are die-hard Steelers fans pull for Ray Lewis and our Ravens to win the Super Bowl against the 49ers!

[Crimson Raven]

It doesn't matter if we root for other teams to lose. At the end of the day, we are not winners. I want to be winners. I'm not going to bother watching since most of the teams are teams I hate win or lose.

[The Greek]

if its the steelers and pats in the afc championship i am for the steelers. i respect the division the rivalry and the steelers blue collar city and organization because they are similar with the ravens

[Ravensfolyfe]

Eisenberg you were wrong my friend about Houston,wasn't even close buddy. I'm just glad 2015 ended.

[20306cab]

Getting "pleasure" in ROOTING against enemies is for LOSERS. If you want your enemies to lose, then BEAT them!

[Moderator 3]

Getting "pleasure" in ROOTING against enemies is for LOSERS. If you want your enemies to lose, then BEAT them!

Or, we can accept this is a game and have some fun with it.

[Rave-O]

The skins r not an enemy Eisenberg.

[shiri2]

they shouldn't've put the skins up there, along with the Squeelas and Patriots. It should've been the Bengals.

[jravens13]

I hate the skins Rave-O . They are an enemy to me living in Northern Virginia and hearing their fans predict super bowls every year.

[cobrajet]

The Bengals crashed and burned....HOORAY!

[ReginaldColeman1]

Highlight of the Cincy game was DeCastro shoving Burfict into the end zone. Minor interest in seeing x-Ravens John Simon, Jah Reid (starting guard and sometimes shifting to tackle), and Fitzgerald Toussaint throughout the day. I was surprised how easily the Steelers ran on Cincy. While stats can be tossed around and misused to prove an invalid point there have been loads of stories documenting the evidence about the Ravens production this year. Bring in Ken Burns for this show! Anywho not surprisingly the blogs are filled to capacity with memories of the secondary tripping over their heels and three stooging it up trying to bring down AJ Green. Then the presser fulfills my expectations that all is right in the Castle after a late season surge in stats for the defense. That volley is met with reasons not limited to the level of QB they faced - Wilson and Smith notwithstanding. Be that as it may I felt it was a lost cause to prove much and going with the W-L columns was proof positive for Parcells so why quibble. Then staring at me on ESPN smack dab on the Raven%u2019s page are the stats for points for and against for the division. I thought it gave another perspective to the argument that they were inches from going to the playoffs and laying to rest the dreaded injury curse. Two teams in the playoffs have subs at QB. Houston has used four QB's quietly tying the Ravens season record. Back to the stats the Ravens are how shall I say humbled by the numbers for points for and agin'. About 100 points on both ends. They scored about a century fewer points and gave up about a Benjamin's more over the course of the season. That's a 200 point spread. I've heard Ozzie speak of things like how many receivers they want and Joe campaigning for offensive weapons like he's going to work at Lockheed-Martin%u2019s Skunkworks. If they want fans to believe they'll do more than "find" someone in the sixth round they believe has promise akin to sixth rounder Antonio Brown than they need to be forthright and come up with someone whose skills are adequately demonstrated in college by more than a pair of fingers crossed. I can overlook the first round for a pass rusher. But things start to slip fast after the second. BTW I disliked to a greater degree watching three quarters of the Cincy-Steeler's game than I would have enjoyed watching the Ravens trounce them. There was some virtue in Marvin and his cast falling short again. But not much. There's something stinky in Pittsburgh and it's not the smelting of steel.

[bioLarzen]

Regardless of who anybody was rooting for, it was a heck of a game... Could only have been a more typical AFC North game if it was us instead of the Bengals. Give credit where credit is due.

[bioLarzen]

Or, we can accept this is a game and have some fun with it.

 

... which doesn't necessarily involve hatred or rooting against anybody, does it? I, for one, didn't root against (or for) either team, and still had a great time, because it was a good game.

[Bruce_Almty]

I believe we should support the local team, so I'll be cheering for the Redskins today. HTTR

[bioLarzen]

Been a Ravens fan, Steelers hater forever. However I've developed a strong appreciation for the offense they've been able to build over the past few years. Big Ben, Brown, Bryant, Bell & Williams. It is an exciting and efficient offense to watch. I wish the Ravens could get close to that explosiveness. Yes, I know we beat them twice this year and they've had their down games but so have the Ravens, many more actually.

 

Far from thinking I'm in the position to fairly criticize the FO, I often catch myself thinking it might not be the best philosophy to keep pounding the D-minded approach in Baltimore, no matter what. When we stiil had Ray Lewis, Ed, Suggs in his prime, Ngata, JJ, Pollard etc., it was sort of evident that the D would be the defining unit of the team, and the Ravens would go as far as the D would bring them. But now, almost all of our legendary guys that side of the ball are gone. We still have great players there of course, but it's nothing like the unit it was 5-6 years ago - let alone 15 years ago. The steelers have gone through the same thing, losing most of their legendary D guys the recent years. And, while they had the guts to make the seemingly impossible decision to turn the table around and make the steelers - always synonymous with a team of a great D - an O-orented teams when they realized the O has a better roster than the D. The Result? Maybe the best - or at least most productive - O's of the league, general success - at least in the regular season. The same time, it seems like the Ravens FO was somehow afraid the even consider this switch if the personnel seems to suit it more. Sure, we have a true franchise QB - but he's almost never given the proper support: either no more than one real good receiver, or an O-line that can't protect him and give him enough time to make deep throws...

 

I'm not saying of course that we should definitely switch to bercome a fully O-minded team - I'm just saying it seems to me - a full outsider, of course.. - that it's a quasi taboo in the Castle to even think of... which I don't necessarily think is quite likely at this point... despite being a TE as a palyer, Ozzie always seemed to be D-minded, and Harbaugh, a former ST coordinator is, naturally on the D-side rather than on the O-side. I'm afraid they are always going to think about the D first - and football has been going away from this approach for a while now. D's are getting penalized at the drop of a hat, it's harder and harder to be a dominant, tough D without racking up three-digit penalty yardage per game. And that's a great way to shoot yourself on the leg.

That doesn't mean, of course, that a D-driven team has no chance to succeed in today's NFL - it's just taking the harder road to success. And why take the hard way when there is also an easier way?

Edited January 10, 2016 by bioLarzen

[Wacked]

If I was a Bengal fan, today I'd be screaming at the wife, beating the kids, kicking the dog, and looking for a chore that requires a hammer. Considering the sad state of the fans in the DC area and everything they've had to endure over the last few decades, they have my pity and I'll root for the Redskins today. Hopefully they don't do anything completely stupid or moronic that costs them the game.

[cobrajet]

I have seen a lot of classless things in my years of watching sports but last night things got way too out of control. A few out of control guys cost the Bengals their first playoff win since 1990. When guys are that undisciplined, it has to ultimately fall upon the HC's shoulders. Marvin Lewis has to be held accountable for that display.

[MTRavensFan]

I have seen a lot of classless things in my years of watching sports but last night things got way too out of control. A few out of control guys cost the Bengals their first playoff win since 1990. When guys are that undisciplined, it has to ultimately fall upon the HC's shoulders. Marvin Lewis has to be held accountable for that display.

Agreed.

Burfict was in a rage the entire 4th qtr. If the refs weren't going to control it, Lewis needed to sit him down. To leave him out there in that state of mind was ridiculous.

[cobrajet]

Agreed.

Burfict was in a rage the entire 4th qtr. If the refs weren't going to control it, Lewis needed to sit him down. To leave him out there in that state of mind was ridiculous.

I love tough AFC North games and smashmouth defenses but there is no place in the league for a bum like Burfict. His history of dirty play going back to his years at Arizona State is extremely troubling. His history of serious incidents is already longer than Haynesworth and Suh. I was glad the Ravens did not get him as an UDFA when I read up on his dirty history and he tested positive for marijuana at the combine. Seriously, if anyone does not know Burfict's history, please do your research on this guy and read all the reports, because I would find it hard to believe that anyone would want this bum on their team.

Edited January 10, 2016 by cobrajet

[The Mom Gene]

If you don't want to see NE win, then you should probably root against the Bengals today. If Cinci loses, the Chiefs will go to NE, and I think they have a better chance of beating them than the Bengals, who will go to NE if they win today.

After last night???  The behavior of the Steelers' coaches, and the dirtiness of the Bungles, They were a disgrace to the AFC North.  It was a disgusting game. The Chiefs are the only team left in the AFC that I have any respect for

[The Mom Gene]

And Bengal fans??? Even worst.

[bioLarzen]

I have seen a lot of classless things in my years of watching sports but last night things got way too out of control. A few out of control guys cost the Bengals their first playoff win since 1990. When guys are that undisciplined, it has to ultimately fall upon the HC's shoulders. Marvin Lewis has to be held accountable for that display.

 

Maybe this is what happened - but according to rumours Lewis will stay the HC in Cincinatti.

[Grapple Raven]

I love tough AFC North games and smashmouth defenses but there is no place in the league for a bum like Burfict. His history of dirty play going back to his years at Arizona State is extremely troubling. His history of serious incidents is already longer than Haynesworth and Suh. I was glad the Ravens did not get him as an UDFA when I read up on his dirty history and he tested positive for marijuana at the combine. Seriously, if anyone does not know Burfict's history, please do your research on this guy and read all the reports, because I would find it hard to believe that anyone would want this bum on their team.

 

 

I too enjoy tough competition and hard nosed defensive play. But that disgusting display was an all out sandlot brawl and a total embarrassment to football, I wouldn't even classify that as a game. It was a continuation of off the field antics from their previous game.  Tomlin's comments during his post brawl presser: "...We tip our cap to those guys, and thought we both represented the AFC North and what the AFC North is about tonight..."  Really?  Imo, that is just disgusting!

 

Here is a good link that shows what Burfict is all about: 

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/1/10/10743956/bengals-linebacker-vontaze-burfict-should-be-banned-from-the-nfl

 

Burfict has no place in the NFL.  Not to mention Shazier's hit on Giovani Bernard.  If Tomlin thinks that is what the AFC North is all about, that doesn't speak too well for his character imho, but I've never been impressed with him to start with.

[1stStateRaven]

The Redskins - Ravens rivalry is non-existent. Most Ravens fans seem to like our local NFC team.

[Moderator 3]

The Redskins - Ravens rivalry is non-existent. Most Ravens fans seem to like our local NFC team.

No, we don't like them. Much of that has to do with (ancient) history based on their part in denying Baltimore an NFL franchise for 12 years, the rest has to do with the arrogance of their fans. I agree there is no rivalry, though.

[January J]

We all should be pulling for Kansas City, we still owe them for helping us get in the playoffs last year. Plus Andy Reid really deserves it, and him and harbaugh are buddies so there's no conflict of interest.

We got the best possible outcome on Saturday night- the bengals getting one and done'd once again and them beating up on each other so bad that Pittsburgh will be handicapped next week and get booted by Denver. I really hate elway and am still kind of holding a grudge against kubiak for leaving us but I guess I really couldn't blame him. Manning kind of deserves it as well; And my purple blood won't allow me to root for Pittsburgh, so il be pulling for Denver I suppose.

Edited January 11, 2016 by January J

[salamander]

I too enjoy tough competition and hard nosed defensive play. But that disgusting display was an all out sandlot brawl and a total embarrassment to football, I wouldn't even classify that as a game. It was a continuation of off the field antics from their previous game.  Tomlin's comments during his post brawl presser: "...We tip our cap to those guys, and thought we both represented the AFC North and what the AFC North is about tonight..."  Really?  Imo, that is just disgusting!

 

Here is a good link that shows what Burfict is all about: 

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/1/10/10743956/bengals-linebacker-vontaze-burfict-should-be-banned-from-the-nfl

 

Burfict has no place in the NFL.  Not to mention Shazier's hit on Giovani Bernard.  If Tomlin thinks that is what the AFC North is all about, that doesn't speak too well for his character imho, but I've never been impressed with him to start with.

Excellent article on Burfict. I am going to be mad at the NFL if they only fine him and not also give him a big suspension. We have to play them twice a year and the headhunting and intent to injure will not stop unless the NFL takes the maximum steps. One of these days, Burfict could paralyze or kill another player and so far, nothing has altered his conduct on the field. As the article suggests, banning Burfict from the game may be the ultimate solution in dealing with this thug, but I fear that the NFL won't take enough action now before Burfict ends someone's career....or life. Take it seriously now, NFL

Edited January 11, 2016 by salamander

[she_lovesBirds]

Sir Esienberg, this sire, this! this is the best article I've ever read from you. Yes victory rocks, but there's nothing like seeing disappointment and disbelief in bengals city. I have to admit I shed a tear and I had a hoop in my step this terrible cold monday morning, in my heart I was filled with warmth. I raise my glass to looking forward to watching even my disappointment in Pittsburgh next week.. the further they advance and loose the more painful it is. YES YES YES!!! let the hurt flow through the streets of Pittsburgh like the river nile. ( Ok I got carried away there but you get my point)

[TheRavengers]

I picked the Chiefs, Steelers, Seahawks and Redskins to win this week. 3/4 isn't bad though.