Realisticly What do you think happens to Tucker, K.O. and Upshaw this off season?

[rmw10]

With pending free agency Kelechi Osemele, #Ravens are aggressive, sources say. Offered to make him the 2nd highest offensive player behind Flacco

 

from Rapoport

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, rmw10 said:

With pending [profanity deleted] Kelechi Osemele, #Ravens are aggressive, sources say. Offered to make him the 2nd highest offensive player behind Flacco

 

from Rapoport

Hmm. I never knew that was profanity. Interesting...

This is a conflicting report right here. One report says we're letting him go while another says we're throwing the farm at him, lol.

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Hmm. I never knew that was profanity. Interesting...

This is a conflicting report right here. One report says we're letting him go while another says we're throwing the farm at him, lol.

Abbreviations for Free Agent and Guard lol

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

 

This is a conflicting report right here. One report says we're letting him go while another says we're throwing the farm at him, lol.

This is why its so pointless to listen to all this talk about predicting FA, its pointless....but that one stop us

[Cillmatic]

We just Offered KO a blockbuster deal.

Edited February 25, 2016 by Cillmatic

[GrimCoconut]

If we keep KO I can't see how we can keep Monroe. There's just no way unless we want to keep him around for depth or as insurance or to somehow keep him this year & trade him next year or later on this year when there are inevitably injuries or as injury insurance for us. 

[usmccharles]

offered to make him the 2nd highest paid offensive player

[Cillmatic]

Our cap is gonna be EVISERATED if accepts.

[January J]

4 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Our cap is gonna be EVISERATED if accepts.

 

 

Evidentally ozzie Has crunched the numbers. Or theres More going on behind the scenes we dont know about with joes contract negotiations.

[arnie_uk]

4 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Gee, you could have seen that on our own front page.

Our own front page is awful

[arnie_uk]

Got two notifications within an hr of eachother.

1. We won't make an offer for KO because we don't think he loves football enough - according to sources.

2. We have made him an offer which would make him the second highest paid player on our offense - according to sources.

So which is real?

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, January J said:

9 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Our cap is gonna be EVISERATED if accepts.

 

 

Evidentally ozzie Has crunched the numbers. Or theres More going on behind the scenes we dont know about with joes contract negotiations.

Its always been somewhat feasible to retain KO, if we cut Monroe and a few other players we probably were going to cut anyway. Certainly ways to structure the deal so that KO's cap hit is in the $3-5M range in year 1, and we'd get a little over $2M in savings alone from cutting Monroe.

It just makes the idea of spending in FA even less likely, which may not necessarily be a bad thing.

Could also signal that more players will be cut than we think. Certainly wouldn't be surprising, considering we are coming off a 5-11 season. Don't know a ton of 5 win teams who are actively looking to keep all of the time together.

[berad]

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

Got two notifications within an hr of eachother.

1. We won't make an offer for KO because we don't think he loves football enough - according to sources.

2. We have made him an offer which would make him the second highest paid player on our offense - according to sources.

So which is real?

The second one. Rapoport has reported it and Harbaugh said the team made an "agressive offer"

The first one is from Bleacher Report, I believe, so... consider the source...

[berad]

16 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

If we keep KO I can't see how we can keep Monroe. There's just no way unless we want to keep him around for depth or as insurance or to somehow keep him this year & trade him next year or later on this year when there are inevitably injuries or as injury insurance for us. 

You're right, he has to be. He's way too expensive to just be insurance.

[Sherly_Tebow]

5 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Gee, you could have seen that on our own front page.

I didn't see it at the time. Maybe I didn't give it time to refresh lol

[rmcjacket23]

So, reading the tea leaves from Ozzie/John in the last 24 hours or so, lets play this out...

1. Ozzie said Webb is a starting safety. Fine, that's been assumed. Lets presume that he's the starting FS, and Lewis is either benched or cut (likely the latter), and Webb starts next to Hill.

Draft spin: Does this take us out of the equation for Ramsey if hes available (though likely won't be)? What position would he play if we drafted him? Start as a corner, maybe switch to safety after a few years? Does it make Hargreaves or another corner as the more likely person to be drafted?

2. Aggressive offer to KO to be our future LT. Lets assume a deal gets done, and we cut Monroe.

Draft spin: Pretty much takes us out of play to draft an OT in the 1st round, unless we plan on starting them at RT long term and letting Wagner walk after this season

If 1 and 2 both happen, haven't we sort of narrowed our draft window a bit? Could still take Ramsey I guess, but probably be several years before he starts at safety, and OT is largely out of the picture. Doesn't that bring us back to three positions... pass rusher, WR, or Corner?

[ALI624]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

So, reading the tea leaves from Ozzie/John in the last 24 hours or so, lets play this out...

1. Ozzie said Webb is a starting safety. Fine, that's been assumed. Lets presume that he's the starting FS, and Lewis is either benched or cut (likely the latter), and Webb starts next to Hill.

Draft spin: Does this take us out of the equation for Ramsey if hes available (though likely won't be)? What position would he play if we drafted him? Start as a corner, maybe switch to safety after a few years? Does it make Hargreaves or another corner as the more likely person to be drafted?

2. Aggressive offer to KO to be our future LT. Lets assume a deal gets done, and we cut Monroe.

Draft spin: Pretty much takes us out of play to draft an OT in the 1st round, unless we plan on starting them at RT long term and letting Wagner walk after this season

If 1 and 2 both happen, haven't we sort of narrowed our draft window a bit? Could still take Ramsey I guess, but probably be several years before he starts at safety, and OT is largely out of the picture. Doesn't that bring us back to three positions... pass rusher, WR, or Corner?

If this does happen I think we go pass rusher, depending on who is there(I think Bosa and Buckner will be gone so the best option is Spence at that point imo,) or cornerback which would be VH3 more than likely. No WRs worth taking at 6.

[Sherly_Tebow]

2 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

If this does happen I think we go pass rusher, depending on who is there(I think Bosa and Buckner will be gone so the best option is Spence at that point imo,) or cornerback which would be VH3 more than likely. No WRs worth taking at 6.

I don't think Bosa, Buckner, and Ramesy all fall before us. It's possible, but I don't see it

[PurpleCity5]

With us being this aggressive reportedly, then I do expect that he will play LT. I also found Ozzie's comment, "Eugene Monroe is our starting LT because K.O is a FA" very interesting. I think it's very telling that we view K.O as our guy there. 

[Underdogsontop!]

Big things happening today! Wonder if KO will take Ozzies deal?? Looks like we all will be staying by our phones and computers to find out! 

[757RavensFan]

So there's no way we keep Monroe if KO agrees to this aggressive deal.  

Monroe is probably calling the movers as we speak. 

[Sherly_Tebow]

What happens if we keep K.O and cut Monroe? How much do we save by cutting him?

Edited February 25, 2016 by Sherly_Tebow

[harfordravenfan]

Just now, Sherly_Tebow said:

What happens if we keep K.O and cute Monroe? How much do we save by cutting him?

Something like 2 million

[BmoreBird22]

If Osemele takes the deal, I could see a post June 1st cut for Monroe. They'd get $6.5M in savings and that's about enough to cover your entire draft class.

[BmoreBird22]

Just to clear up that Bleacher Report source, it's Jason Cole, possibly the least reliable reporter for them.

[Purple_Polo89]

18 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

So, reading the tea leaves from Ozzie/John in the last 24 hours or so, lets play this out...

1. Ozzie said Webb is a starting safety. Fine, that's been assumed. Lets presume that he's the starting FS, and Lewis is either benched or cut (likely the latter), and Webb starts next to Hill.

Draft spin: Does this take us out of the equation for Ramsey if hes available (though likely won't be)? What position would he play if we drafted him? Start as a corner, maybe switch to safety after a few years? Does it make Hargreaves or another corner as the more likely person to be drafted?

2. Aggressive offer to KO to be our future LT. Lets assume a deal gets done, and we cut Monroe.

Draft spin: Pretty much takes us out of play to draft an OT in the 1st round, unless we plan on starting them at RT long term and letting Wagner walk after this season

If 1 and 2 both happen, haven't we sort of narrowed our draft window a bit? Could still take Ramsey I guess, but probably be several years before he starts at safety, and OT is largely out of the picture. Doesn't that bring us back to three positions... pass rusher, WR, or Corner?

Ramsey would be a corner, no way he plays safety with all the bodies we have...

[rmcjacket23]

13 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

If Osemele takes the deal, I could see a post June 1st cut for Monroe. They'd get $6.5M in savings and that's about enough to cover your entire draft class.

Possibly, but I don't see how you squeeze KO and Tucker under the cap without that $2M from Monroe NOW plus other cuts.

Plus it depends on what happens with Pitta in the coming weeks/months, as I think he'd be more likely to get the Post- June 1 tag.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Purple_Polo89 said:

Ramsey would be a corner, no way he plays safety with all the bodies we have...

Right, but I'm saying most people don't think that's his best position.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Possibly, but I don't see how you squeeze KO and Tucker under the cap without that $2M from Monroe NOW plus other cuts.

Plus it depends on what happens with Pitta in the coming weeks/months, as I think he'd be more likely to get the Post- June 1 tag.

By extending Joe Flacco, which should free up up to $9M. Harbaugh said he'd be shocked and very disappointed if a deal isn't reached with Joe.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but the Ravens could hold onto either and cut them after June 1st and it counts the same, correct?

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Right, but I'm saying most people don't think that's his best position.

He's probably the second best corner in the draft, best to some. I prefer Mackensie Alexander, but Ramsey is the best defensive back in the draft.