Realisticly What do you think happens to Tucker, K.O. and Upshaw this off season?

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Just curious what other Ravens fans think is going to happen to a few of our free agents this off season?

***I think they Franchise Tucker and sign an extension in the future.

***I think K.O. will cost way too much $ and he leaves as much as I want him back it would be a miracle to    have it happen.

***I think Upshaw will get a better offer from another team.

Just  what I think is going to happen as much as I hate losing our guys.

Edited January 9, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Cville-Raven]

I think Tucker is more than likely back.

I have a weird optimism regarding KO. Earlier in the year I thought no way but I think there's a better chance than expected.

Upshaw is probably gone

Edited January 9, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I think Tucker is more than likely back.

I have a weird optimism regarding KO. Earlier in the year I thought no way but I think there's a better chance than expected.

Upshaw is probably gone

Ya we have definitely seen Oz pull things out of his hat at the last minute I would love to have K.O. back for sure It's all about the $ because K.O. said NO home team discounts and now is the time for K.O. to make some money its his first contract after his rookie contract has expired and he has played pretty darn good on his rookie contract and now has proven that he can play OT too.

[GrimCoconut]

I think Tucker & KO have a good chance to return, but I don't want Upshaw back at all. Yeah, people will say he's maligned like others before him such as Oher. To be honest, I just don't like him. I don't want him here. I want him out of Baltimore & off of this team. There's not much at all I like about Upshaw. I was actually one of the people who hoped he would prove us wrong this year and show some improvement, but he is who he is. He has never actually gotten any better after college. He has essentially stayed the same and has perhaps even regressed some, IMO. 

 

The game is over & he needs to go. He's too slow & he's a big part of the problem of this team. 

[Sherly_Tebow]

- I voted Tucker gets the franchise tag, but extended in the future, although I really hope an extension gets done.

- I have a feeling K.O gets a deal done. Somehow.

- I think Upshaw walks

[RavensFanMania]

- I voted Tucker gets the franchise tag, but extended in the future, although I really hope an extension gets done.

- I have a feeling K.O gets a deal done. Somehow.

- I think Upshaw walks

I agree, but will add that I don't believe KO gets a deal.  It's just going to be too costly. 

[Sherly_Tebow]

I agree, but will add that I don't believe KO gets a deal.  It's just going to be too costly.

Probably. I just got a gut feeling lol

[Winchester]

AMAZING!! FREAKING AMAZING!! Fans seem to prefer a freaking kicker to be resigned before the most devastating guard in the league!! How many sacks did he give up in 4 games at left tackle?? Goose Egg!! Zippo!! KO is the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen as there is!! The most dominating guard since Carl nicks in his prime and Carl nicks was considered the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen. And KO is as devastating a drive blocker as Nicks yet has enough athleticism to play left tackle and could end up a top5 left tackle!! He just has not got the recognition from the media yet. It actually took Larry Allen aboutb5 yrs to get recognition as the best. Alan Faneca got more attention and most fans thought he was the best. Yanda actually took 4 yrs or so b4 being recognized as one of the best and eventually the best. Most fans knew Yanda was good but considered round one pick Grubbs as the better guard til Yanda got the recognition he deserved. Hell, I remember telling a sf scout at a Christmas party back in 2009 that Yanda was better than Grubbs and needs to play guard full time as opposed to RT because he would become an all pro guard if he focused on that position. And that Yanda was better than Grubbs. He kinda disagreed but not completely cuz he responded " ahh I am not so sure about that, Yanda is good but I dunno bout better than Grubbs" I actually think Grubbs was always a little overrated in my humble opinion. Anyways that is homerism at its finest!! Media hyped Tucker up last yr a lot and most fans see him a kicker as a hometown fan favorite and bigger priority than the most dominant guard in the NFL!! Just as many fans would defend juice faster than KO. In my opinion KO takes over next yr as the best player on the ravens Oline and enforcer of the best OLine in the nfl!! Especially if the ravens add Tunsil. And run with Tunsil at LT and KO Urschel and Yanda as the interior triad. If not then KO at Left Tackle and Jensen Urschel Yanda at the interior is very formidable and nasty. Upshaw can walk. And it would be cool to have Tucker back but not at the expense of KO!! The most powerful mauler in the NFL and the eventual leader and anchor of the Raven OLine with Yanda 32 next year. If ravens lose him he will eventually get the recognition and it will be seem as a huge mistake. He should be the biggest priority to resign.

[Cville-Raven]

AMAZING!! FREAKING AMAZING!! Fans seem to prefer a freaking kicker to be resigned before the most devastating guard in the league!! How many sacks did he give up in 4 games at left tackle?? Goose Egg!! Zippo!! KO is the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen as there is!! The most dominating guard since Carl nicks in his prime and Carl nicks was considered the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen. And KO is as devastating a drive blocker as Nicks yet has enough athleticism to play left tackle and could end up a top5 left tackle!! He just has not got the recognition from the media yet. It actually took Larry Allen aboutb5 yrs to get recognition as the best. Alan Faneca got more attention and most fans thought he was the best. Yanda actually took 4 yrs or so b4 being recognized as one of the best and eventually the best. Most fans knew Yanda was good but considered round one pick Grubbs as the better guard til Yanda got the recognition he deserved. Hell, I remember telling a sf scout at a Christmas party back in 2009 that Yanda was better than Grubbs and needs to play guard full time as opposed to RT because he would become an all pro guard if he focused on that position. And that Yanda was better than Grubbs. He kinda disagreed but not completely cuz he responded " ahh I am not so sure about that, Yanda is good but I dunno bout better than Grubbs" I actually think Grubbs was always a little overrated in my humble opinion. Anyways that is homerism at its finest!! Media hyped Tucker up last yr a lot and most fans see him a kicker as a hometown fan favorite and bigger priority than the most dominant guard in the NFL!! Just as many fans would defend juice faster than KO. In my opinion KO takes over next yr as the best player on the ravens Oline and enforcer of the best OLine in the nfl!! Especially if the ravens add Tunsil. And run with Tunsil at LT and KO Urschel and Yanda as the interior triad. If not then KO at Left Tackle and Jensen Urschel Yanda at the interior is very formidable and nasty. Upshaw can walk. And it would be cool to have Tucker back but not at the expense of KO!! The most powerful mauler in the NFL and the eventual leader and anchor of the Raven OLine with Yanda 32 next year. If ravens lose him he will eventually get the recognition and it will be seem as a huge mistake. He should be the biggest priority to resign.

Who is saying they would prefer to sign tucker? All I see is people saying the chances of every player listed returning. KO isn't cheap thus people think he may not return.

[Inqui]

Tucker stays - and for all the bluster of the FO about giving him the franchise tag I think they get a deal done before they need to tag him.

 

KO could go either way - either collect a glut of money on a different team or we find a way to keep him around. Harbaugh seems interested in keeping the band together, so I'll just take a guess and say we keep him around. But I could see a side like Denver throwing a boatload of money at him, so I won't be surprised by either outcome.

 

Upshaw walks. I don't think we'll bother keeping him and I could see him getting a modest contract with a side like Detroit, where he becomes a serviceable but nothing outlandish piece in a rotation. If we're lucky he'll get us a seventh-round comp pick next year, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Who is saying they would prefer to sign tucker? All I see is people saying the chances of every player listed returning. KO isn't cheap thus people think he may not return.

Thanks for clearing that up. So true.

[Sherly_Tebow]

Do you guys think we offer Upshaw any sort of contract? Kind of like a take it or leave it type of deal

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

AMAZING!! FREAKING AMAZING!! Fans seem to prefer a freaking kicker to be resigned before the most devastating guard in the league!! How many sacks did he give up in 4 games at left tackle?? Goose Egg!! Zippo!! KO is the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen as there is!! The most dominating guard since Carl nicks in his prime and Carl nicks was considered the closest thing to a modern day Larry Allen. And KO is as devastating a drive blocker as Nicks yet has enough athleticism to play left tackle and could end up a top5 left tackle!! He just has not got the recognition from the media yet. It actually took Larry Allen aboutb5 yrs to get recognition as the best. Alan Faneca got more attention and most fans thought he was the best. Yanda actually took 4 yrs or so b4 being recognized as one of the best and eventually the best. Most fans knew Yanda was good but considered round one pick Grubbs as the better guard til Yanda got the recognition he deserved. Hell, I remember telling a sf scout at a Christmas party back in 2009 that Yanda was better than Grubbs and needs to play guard full time as opposed to RT because he would become an all pro guard if he focused on that position. And that Yanda was better than Grubbs. He kinda disagreed but not completely cuz he responded " ahh I am not so sure about that, Yanda is good but I dunno bout better than Grubbs" I actually think Grubbs was always a little overrated in my humble opinion. Anyways that is homerism at its finest!! Media hyped Tucker up last yr a lot and most fans see him a kicker as a hometown fan favorite and bigger priority than the most dominant guard in the NFL!! Just as many fans would defend juice faster than KO. In my opinion KO takes over next yr as the best player on the ravens Oline and enforcer of the best OLine in the nfl!! Especially if the ravens add Tunsil. And run with Tunsil at LT and KO Urschel and Yanda as the interior triad. If not then KO at Left Tackle and Jensen Urschel Yanda at the interior is very formidable and nasty. Upshaw can walk. And it would be cool to have Tucker back but not at the expense of KO!! The most powerful mauler in the NFL and the eventual leader and anchor of the Raven OLine with Yanda 32 next year. If ravens lose him he will eventually get the recognition and it will be seem as a huge mistake. He should be the biggest priority to resign.

Just like Cville-Raven stated its not who do you want to stay? but what do you think happens to each player? Sorry if I did not clarify enough.

[Inqui]

Do you guys think we offer Upshaw any sort of contract? Kind of like a take it or leave it type of deal

If I had to guess, I'd say no. We're insanely tight against the cap and it sounds like the FO wants to go fishing for pass rushers and WRs in the offseason.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Do you guys think we offer Upshaw any sort of contract? Kind of like a take it or leave it type of deal

They might. Oz has done things like this before. But I think he can get another guy for cheaper either in the draft or free agency at some point.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say no. We're insanely tight against the cap and it sounds like the FO wants to go fishing for pass rushers and WRs in the offseason.

I think your right but it all comes down to $$$.

Edited January 9, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Cville-Raven]

Do you guys think we offer Upshaw any sort of contract? Kind of like a take it or leave it type of deal

Probably not. They're probably thinking they can get better value in the draft for a cheaper/younger player to do what he does and maybe even do it better. Edited January 9, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[Winchester]

Who is saying they would prefer to sign tucker? All I see is people saying the chances of every player listed returning. KO isn't cheap thus people think he may not return.

Just the way everybody talks like tucker is the biggest priority. When posting about resigning players, tucker is the first name mentioned. And many said he is the top priority.

[rmw10]

Ive been thinking all along that we might bring Upshaw back at a very cheap price, but I think he's moving on now. The money just isn't there for a guy like that. KO, Tucker, and Shareece are the real priorities.

[Winchester]

Just like Cville-Raven stated its not who do you want to stay? but what do you think happens to each player? Sorry if I did not clarify enough.

I know what you meant dude. I was referring to everybody saying Tucker is the priority and KO could be replaced and say things like let him walk and get the comp pick since ravens do not have many next yr. And clearly say tucker is priority and would prefer the comp pick over resigning KO. And Tucker should not be offered a nickel til KO is signed.

[Sherly_Tebow]

Just the way everybody talks like tucker is the biggest priority. When posting about resigning players, tucker is the first name mentioned. And many said he is the top priority.

I think the new extra point rule this year increased the importance of the kicker position. Tucker made all of his extra points this year (I think), was pretty much automatic inside 50, but struggled outside of 50. He's still a top 3 kicker in the league. We can't afford to let him walk. His abilities would be pretty difficult to replace. We'll get a deal done somehow, whether it's the franchise tag or not. 

Whether he's top priority, it's hard to say. I love K.O, and Tucker. I just really want to keep both so it doesn't matter who the top priority is! lol

[Winchester]

Ive been thinking all along that we might bring Upshaw back at a very cheap price, but I think he's moving on now. The money just isn't there for a guy like that. KO, Tucker, and Shareece are the real priorities.

A kicker and mediocre cornerback is priority over the most dominating guard in the NFL?? And a guard who filled in at left tackle and did so quite effectively?? The money to tucker and Wright cover KO's cap hit for first couple yrs. KO is the future anchor. Yanda will be going on 33 next year.Do some research of what age guards and oline players decline and even get cut. Hutchinson, Faneca,Allen,Pace,Adams.

Edited January 9, 2016 by Winchester

[PurpleCity5]

I think we keep K.O and Tucker. 

 

I agree with everyone else's settlements about Upshaw. He honestly represents whats wrong with this defense, I'm not trying to sound harsh but he is slow and cannot rush the passer, sounds similar to a problem we have on defense, correct? I would let him walk honestly. 

[rmw10]

A kicker and mediocre cornerback is priority over the most dominating guard in the NFL?? And a guard who filled in at left tackle and did so quite effectively?? The money to tucker and Wright cover KO's cap hit for first couple yrs. KO is the future anchor. Yanda will be going on 33 next year.Do some research of what age guards and oline players decline and even get cut. Hutchinson, Faneca,Allen,Pace,Adams.

Ummm, where did I say over? KO is clearly mentioned in that statement...

[January J]

Tucker Will be resigned in the near future. KO will walk. Upshaw is kind of the wild card...it all depends on what he thinks he is worth.Oz def ain't breakin the bank for him..But if he accepts a low cost short term deal I could see him staying.

[GrimCoconut]

I really feel good about the Ravens keeping KO. Right now I think there's a 75% chance he returns. That may change as more info comes out but that's how I see it atm. I don't think we want Upshaw back. I may be inferring my own meaning here out of bias but we never once mentioned bringing back Upshaw while discussing the need for pass rushers. I don't think he'll be back.

[rmw10]

I really feel good about the Ravens keeping KO. Right now I think there's a 75% chance he returns. That may change as more info comes out but that's how I see it atm. I don't think we want Upshaw back. I may be inferring my own meaning here out of bias but we never once mentioned bringing back Upshaw while discussing the need for pass rushers. I don't think he'll be back.

 

I'd obviously like to see more and I'm not saying it as an absolute at all, but Brennen Beyer could be that edge setting option at the minimum.  There are definitely limitations to his pass rush, but he was one of the few that seemed to understand how to set the edge last preseason.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd obviously like to see more and I'm not saying it as an absolute at all, but Brennen Beyer could be that edge setting option at the minimum. There are definitely limitations to his pass rush, but he was one of the few that seemed to understand how to set the edge last preseason.

Yeah, I liked him quite a bit. I think he'd be a good candidate to perhaps replace Upshaw. I just don't see enough from Upshaw to keep him.

[rmw10]

Yeah, I liked him quite a bit. I think he'd be a good candidate to perhaps replace Upshaw. I just don't see enough from Upshaw to keep him.

 

I mean, I'd think we'd take Upshaw back very, very cheap, but I think he falls victim to the 80/20 rule.  We could get that production from possibly Beyer or someone else at or very near to the minimum.  I'd guess it wouldn't even be terribly difficult to find an edge setter that can get a sack here and there either.  Even though he wasn't used as a pass rusher primarily, 5 sacks in 4 years is pretty terrible.

[GrimCoconut]

I mean, I'd think we'd take Upshaw back very, very cheap, but I think he falls victim to the 80/20 rule. We could get that production from possibly Beyer or someone else at or very near to the minimum. I'd guess it wouldn't even be terribly difficult to find an edge setter that can get a sack here and there either. Even though he wasn't used as a pass rusher primarily, 5 sacks in 4 years is pretty terrible.

Maybe but I just don't think he's what we want on defense. He's what's wrong with the defense: slow and just doesn't make enough plays.

[edthehead]

     I like TUCKER, he is a RAVEN, but if we can not afford him, Then why waste the money and time,

Get that kid out of FSU, aguayo,  hhmmmm,, spend money or a 3/4 round pick.

     KO, again I  like the dude but he is hurt a lot missing maybe 2 games a year, nope, now if we get him at a good price then yes. This will be his first big contract, KO we have love for you but go get your money, we wish you well and a pro bowl next year,we just ask you to get us a 3rd round comp

     Upshaw lol, fools gold, we can draft 2/3 upshaws every year in every draft, he has improved, but Z.Smith is the future we can get another upshaw in the 4th,5th even 6th round.