Ted Monachino hired by Indy; new LB coach needed

[FlackAttack]

yeah, well, according to some our coaching staff has sucked for the last x-number of YEARS.... 

 

oh got it, youre talking about the "fire harbaugh" people. yeah i usually dont consider them relevant.

[The Mom Gene]

oh got it, youre talking about the "fire harbaugh" people. yeah i usually dont consider them relevant.

 

[52520Andrew]

It would be nice if we could have one year where we aren't being poached. You would think we would have been pretty safe being 5-11 and all.

[gtalk12]

I hope we crush Indy, with all that we have.

 

 

 

MAY THE FURY OF 300 NATIONS FALL UPON THEM

[ravensdfan]

According to  some folks, We have such an AWFUL coaching staff, but for some reason, the other teams want ours....  hmmmm......

No one has come calling for the one we complain about have they?

[TDubbs]

Monachino is a good coach, but he's an unproven commodity being given a chance as a first time DC. He also has the luxury of a fantastic DC in his own right in Pagano. If they get the talent in there, he's in a favourable position. 

 

Do I feel like we got poached, or made a mistake not giving him our DC job? Not really. I mean look at the talent he had as a position coach; Ray/Suggs/Kruger/Ellerbe/D.Smith/Dumervil/Mosley/Upshaw/McPhee .. talk about standing on 3rd base and being told to run home, that's a ton of talent for a LB coach. 

[K-Dog]

I guess I am a dilbert, because this news really doesn't bother me all that much.  

[JetLife94]

I'd love to see the Ravens play Indy next year somehow. Beating them and seeing there faces throughout the game would be priceless!

[Edgar]

Good for him, now we need to find a team that will take Pees. Not going to be easy.

I know you're kidding but you raise an interesting question: If pees were available,would anyone hire him as DC based on his resume of late?

[Ravenseconbeast]

Pettine was a great LB coach. 

 

Jim Schwartz is a great defensive coach.

 

Any role they can get with Ravens would help our defense.

[jazz1988]

Anyone know any good LB coaches?

Bill Davis

Greg Manusky

[Wildabeast88]

Hmmmmm, no we get poached from the few that ARE good. The losers seem to stay.

can we pay someone to take Pees

[redlobster]

Monachino is a good coach, but he's an unproven commodity being given a chance as a first time DC. He also has the luxury of a fantastic DC in his own right in Pagano. If they get the talent in there, he's in a favourable position. 

 

Do I feel like we got poached, or made a mistake not giving him our DC job? Not really. I mean look at the talent he had as a position coach; Ray/Suggs/Kruger/Ellerbe/D.Smith/Dumervil/Mosley/Upshaw/McPhee .. talk about standing on 3rd base and being told to run home, that's a ton of talent for a LB coach. 

 

You listed a bunch of high draft pick talent but don't forget the miracles he made out of :

 

Orr, Ellerbe, Scott, McClain,Bynes,McClellan.

 

I don't know a ton overall about him beyond that he had a udfa starting at ILB in the superbowl that led the team in tackles in that game and also made probably the game saving tackle when ellerbe ran down frank gore and stopped him to setup the goal line stand

Edited January 8, 2016 by redlobster

[757RavensFan]

Why do some of y'all get upset when a coach leave for a promotion?  I imagine most young coaches aspire to be a HC and they'll take certain promotions which helps them do so.  Monachino knows Harbs is here for probably another 7-10 years, so he would have to leave if he wants to eventually become a HC.  

 

This would have happened if we were 5-11 or 11-5.  Sad part about it, if we would have finished 11-5 we might have lost Clarence Brooks also.  

Edited January 8, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[The Mom Gene]

No one has come calling for the one we complain about have they?

 

No, because he's under contract and most likely would be a lateral move for him...  why would they?  It's position coaches that people look to bring in as coordinators. Some times emotion just doesn't make any sense. 

 

The sky is not falling....  Again...  Baltimore's Defense finished #2 in the league for the 2nd half of the season.  There was marked improvement.  Why would you shake that up?  Makes absolutely no sense at all.

[757RavensFan]

No, because he's under contract and most likely would be a lateral move for him...  why would they?  It's position coaches that people look to bring in as coordinators. Some times emotion just doesn't make any sense. 

 

The sky is not falling....  Again...  Baltimore's Defense finished #2 in the league for the 2nd half of the season.  There was marked improvement.  Why would you shake that up?  Makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

 

Read this article regarding the defense's "turn-around" during the 2nd half of the season.  It kind of puts things in perspective and states why we still need MAJOR improvements on D.  

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/01/07/street-talk/ravens-defense-finds-safety-in-numbers/

[The Mom Gene]

Read this article regarding the defense's "turn-around" during the 2nd half of the season.  It kind of puts things in perspective and states why we still need MAJOR improvements on D.  

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/01/07/street-talk/ravens-defense-finds-safety-in-numbers/

 

Not a real fan of Russell Street Report...  some of their stuff is self-serving.  But OK.... 

LFW today says a lot about it as well...  I honestly believe that what Steve said yesterday regarding the Suggs loss and the impact on the defense, makes complete sense.

 

The NFL season is the shortest in professional sports.  Once we started losing players, we had little time to make adjustments in order to save the season.  Regardless of what folks want to believe...  5 of the first 7 games were away...  that in and of itself makes sense...  against teams like Denver, Arizona, Steelers, even the Raiders...  I'm just sayin, we were still in every one of those games.

 

16 games played

14 games won or lost by less than 8

21 guys on IR

 

It's just my opinion, but I don't believe the sky is falling. 

 

Edit:

Most, if not all of the things that Dev talks about in that article, Steve mentioned yesterday.  How the loss to Suggs actually really hindered the pass rush and affected the pressure on the QB's and sacks. As well as the turnover ratio.  We actually did a decent job at points allowed....  we just didn't have the personnel on offense to score enough to keep up...  Come on, you guys know this...

[redlobster]

No, because he's under contract and most likely would be a lateral move for him...  why would they?  It's position coaches that people look to bring in as coordinators. Some times emotion just doesn't make any sense. 

 

The sky is not falling....  Again...  Baltimore's Defense finished #2 in the league for the 2nd half of the season.  There was marked improvement.  Why would you shake that up?  Makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

Why do I care about how many yards they gave up, I care about how many points they gave up. When pundits or fans throw around the narrative of "look how great the defense was in the 2nd half of the season" I see a self-serving talking point ala presidential candidates. Its a farse, points decide the W and L's not yards

[Cville-Raven]

Lovie Smith is out there. Doubt he takes a position coaching job though. 

[baltimorefan328]

Why do I care about how many yards they gave up, I care about how many points they gave up. When pundits or fans throw around the narrative of "look how great the defense was in the 2nd half of the season" I see a self-serving talking point ala presidential candidates. Its a farse, points decide the W and L's not yards

I agree with this 100%, I always laugh how the NFL judges defenses based on total yards allowed.  The last 8 games of the year the Ravens averaged giving up a little over 23 ppg, which for the year would be right around tied for 16th.  Not horrible but certainly not near the Ravens defensive quality we expect.  I don't care if the Ravens give up the most yards in the league, but if they're 16th in points thats not getting the job done.

[redlobster]

I agree with this 100%, I always laugh how the NFL judges defenses based on total yards allowed.  The last 8 games of the year the Ravens averaged giving up a little over 23 ppg, which for the year would be right around tied for 16th.  Not horrible but certainly not near the Ravens defensive quality we expect.  I don't care if the Ravens give up the most yards in the league, but if they're 16th in points thats not getting the job done.

x2

 

1. Seattle

2. Cincy

3. KC

4. Denver

5.Minn

6.Carolina

T - 7.Arizona

T- 7.Houston

9. Jets

10. NE

11. PItts

12. GB

 

Look at the above list, that is ranking defenses from 1st to 12th in pts per game allowed. Something that might jump out immediately at you is the teams. 11 of the top 12 are in the playoffs, and the only one not in the playoffs didn't make it due to a loss in the last game of the season.

[terrynjulia03]

Read this article regarding the defense's "turn-around" during the 2nd half of the season.  It kind of puts things in perspective and states why we still need MAJOR improvements on D.  

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/01/07/street-talk/ravens-defense-finds-safety-in-numbers/

Preach, and mic drop.

Mom Gene, not a fan of RSR? Why? Theyre the ones with the regular posters who actually ya know know what theyre talking about. Filmstudy I would trust when judging a line almost as much as Castillo,lol and Brian is regularly on the Fan as the Salary Cap expert. Not to mention dozens of guys who have played the game or coached it. Just dont get the hate between the 2 sites amongst some people. I started posting more over here cause I got put in the naughty category and given a timeout.

But anyways as has been posted. Yards means jack squat. Ppg, 3rd down %, red zone % and turnovers matter far far more. We ranked near the bottom in every category. 8th in yards over the second half, whoppity do. How many games did the D give up a late long drive to lose the game?

[FlackAttack]

I know you're kidding but you raise an interesting question: If pees were available,would anyone hire him as DC based on his resume of late?

 

Maybe some Midwest college team would take him, if he lucky.

[The Raven]

Lol why not Alabama's LB coach? We seem to like their linebackers, why not their LB coach? They've been a factory.

[allblackraven]

Lol why not Alabama's LB coach? We seem to like their linebackers, why not their LB coach? They've been a factory.

Steele got a DC job at LSU last year.

[The Raven]

Steele got a DC job at LSU last year.

 

Ah. Well, thanks for that update.

[thieverycorporation]

Pettine was a great LB coach. 

 

Jim Schwartz is a great defensive coach.

 

Any role they can get with Ravens would help our defense.

I'll take either one of them. Pettine knows the Ravens way and schwartz may have a few rinkles that he could introduce to Pee's. Who ever comes needs to be able to help Pee's use them a little more effectively. I truly hope they get someone that's not a lackey but a great innovator and an great communicator for players and Pee's. He'll have to have some clout Like Main Man did. They also can't whiff on long term project but almost plug and play. I think some camp casualty makes this squad. 

[codizzle]

x2

1. Seattle

2. Cincy

3. KC

4. Denver

5.Minn

6.Carolina

T - 7.Arizona

T- 7.Houston

9. Jets

10. NE

11. PItts

12. GB

Look at the above list, that is ranking defenses from 1st to 12th in pts per game allowed. Something that might jump out immediately at you is the teams. 11 of the top 12 are in the playoffs, and the only one not in the playoffs didn't make it due to a loss in the last game of the season.

Yes yards mean absolutely nothing in today's nfl.. Or any era of nfl really.... PPG is the only stat that matters

[ellicottraven]

Good luck to Monachino, but don't underestimate Pees. He may not be popular on these posts, but he sure is popular with the front office and the coaches. He deserves to be there as our DC especially after our D ranked #8 in total defense for the 2nd year in a row with really young untested players and no Suggs! Are you guys kidding me?

[RavensFanMania]

Thoiughs on Teryl Austin if he becomes available in Detroit.  The Lions just hired Bob Quinn as their new GM and it is possible that Caldwell could be fired along with his staff. 

 

Would anyone have any interest in him as the LB in Baltimore.  Thoughts?