End of Season Press Conference

[GrimCoconut]

If i had to nick pick, pass rusher.   Steve mentioned something about pass rusher, but nothing about WR.   Don't think Ozzie/Harb said anything about WR either.

They said that they would address WR early. Ozzie did at the very end of the presser, anyway. 

[Cville-Raven]

They said that they would address WR early. Ozzie did at the very end of the presser, anyway. 

Ozzie even gave a number

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

If i had to nick pick, pass rusher.   Steve mentioned something about pass rusher, but nothing about WR.   Don't think Ozzie/Harb said anything about WR either.

 

Interesting. Wonder who they would have in mind at #6 as a pass rusher. I was thinking WR or CB personally.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Ozzie even gave a number

 

What kind of number? Lol

[GrimCoconut]

What kind of number? Lol

I think he said two. I can't recall off the top of my head atm. I don't know if I believe that, though. Ozzie likes to throw around that ol' Kentucky shuffle. 

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

I think he said two. I can't recall off the top of my head atm. I don't know if I believe that, though. Ozzie likes to throw around that ol' Kentucky shuffle. 

 

Interesting. I would really like to start adding continual depth to the position. One area Pittsburgh has really done well at is drafting wide receivers in recent years. Wallace goes, Sanders steps up. Brown steps up, they can afford to let Sanders go. Now they have Bryant, Wheaton and drafted Coates last year to start developing him. 

 

Side note, hopefully Perriman turns out like Martavis Bryant (minus the off field antics). That guy is a monster and is lightning fast.

[January J]

We have a 5-11 season. where the defense collapses routinely in the 4th quarter, giving up over 7 4th quarter leads, we are bottom in turnovers, and we do.....NOTHING to fix it. Zero, zip, nada.

Now the offense will get ignored for another four years while the defense is garbage. Expect even a worse season next year.

Have zero expectations for this team going forward in terms of any post season success. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

the nfl season isnt even over yet and our offseason has just started. Pump the breaks a bit kid. How can you say weve done nothing to fix it? Plenty of moves will be made to improve the turnovers and create more pressure.

lol The defense blew a 28-6 lead in that SB. Almost lost it for us. Lucky for us we still had Ray and Ed on the field. Two of our last three seasons were not winning seasons. 18 games I believe it is, we've blown a lead in the 4th quarter. That is close to 60% of our losses coming when we held the lead in the 4th quarter and the defense failed. In that playoff game the defense blew not one, but two 14 pt leads. TWO! 14 POINTS! These are defensive issues that can be found every one of the four seasons Pees has been here.

Not to mention, issues found in his playoff history with NE as well.

this was harbs first losing season...weve been .500 or better every year until now.. those are called winning seasons. And have you ever stopped to consider the circumstances and what pees had to deal with?

Based on Ozzie's comments on improving the receiving core I have a strong feeling WR will be were we go with 6.

im not so sure..steve once again reiterated the need for multiple pass rushers. But you could be right- of course they don't want to tip their hand. But a wr and pass rusher in the first two rounds is extremely likely.

I said it over on RSR DeCosta and his Im smarter than everyone and grabbing no name school people and theyll be stars crap has to stop. I hope he goes to Tenn. Go sink like the scrub that went back to Cleveland.

are you even being serious? And why do you think so many teams try to get Decosta from us? Bc he doesnt know what he's doing? We are extremely fortunate to have him and i for one am relieved we already have someone like him to take over when oz steps down. We have the best brass in the league. Sometimes the players just need to perform better. If you only could take a step back and realize how ridiculous you sound. Ever wonder why you get so many negs? Bc your right and everybody else is wrong right? Get a clue..

I was watching it on my computer. Cut on me at least 20 times so I missed a lot of the video. Seems like just when a question I wanted to hear the answer to was asked it would stop. LOL now but I was getting really frustrated at the time.

lol same here. Almost threw my tablet off my back deck. Glad they put up the video now so I can watch it uninterupted. Edited January 8, 2016 by January J

[ravensdfan]

 the nfl season isnt even over yet and our offseason has just started. Pump the breaks a bit kid. How can you say weve done nothing to fix it? Plenty of moves will be made to improve the turnovers and create more pressure.  this was harbs first losing season...weve been .500 or better every year until now..   im not so sure..steve once again reiterated the need for multiple pass rushers. But you could be right- of course they don't want to tip their hand. But a wr and pass rusher in the first two rounds is extremely likely.are you even being serious? And why do you think so many teams try to get Decosta from us? Bc he doesnt know what he's doing? We are extremely fortunate to have him and i for one am relieved we already have someone like him to take over when oz steps down. We have the best brass in the league. Sometimes the players just need to perform better.   lol same here. Almost threw my tablet off my back deck. Glad they put up the video now so I can watch it uninterupted.

I said two of our last three were not winning seasons. .500 is not a winning season.

 

Nice job ignoring that stats on Pees 4th quarter collapses though.

[January J]

I said two of the three were not winning seasons. .500 is not a winning season.

 

Nice job ignoring that stats on Pees 4th quarter collapses though.

well they aren't considered losing seasons so what are they?

Why are they pees 4th quarter collapses and not the players? they are the ones on the feild. I'm not the biggest pees fan either..But the guy has to work with what he is Givin and due to the boatload of injuries he's had to work with scraps the last 2 seasons. Do you honestly think we give up those 2 14 point leads in New England had a healthy Jimmy Smith been on the feild? Seriously- the pessimistic sky is falling attitude really gets old. If only our brass was smarter than some of you geniuses who have all the answers.

[K-Dog]

Yikes this thread made my head spin.

 

I completely agree with everyone who said something positive and disagree with everyone talking negative.

[ravensdfan]

well they aren't considered losing seasons so what are they?

Why are they pees 4th quarter collapses and not the players? they are the ones on the feild. I'm not the biggest pees fan either..But the guy has to work with what he is Givin and due to the boatload of injuries he's had to work with scraps the last 2 seasons. Do you honestly think we give up those 2 14 point leads in New England had a healthy Jimmy Smith been on the feild? Seriously- the pessimistic sky is falling attitude really gets old. If only our brass was smarter than some of you geniuses who have all the answers.

lol You think they are always right? They weren't right about Cam were they? Yet 90% of the people here were right about him.

 

I've not seen anyone say they could run the entire organization better at all. But sometimes, people are either too close to a situation to see it properly or too close to a person to see their failures. Happens all the time.

 

Called this defensive nightmare last season - and everyone was just like you then too. *shrugs*

 

So if we find ourselves here again next year? Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Edited January 8, 2016 by ravensdfan

[Steve0x]

I wouldn't watch it. I couldn't stand to relive the season again. Its a nightmare I'm glad i woke up. Hopefully next year it will be a dream.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Steve0x

[JO_75]

One comment of interest was that DeCosta, not Ozzie, has been running the draft the last few years.

 

This might be why he hasn't left for a GM job. Wonder if this is the FO giving him a test run of sorts to see if he is indeed Ozzie's successor or if we may have to look elsewhere when Ozzie does retire. Then again, just maybe this is Ozzie's way of stepping down but slowly doing it while still being apart of the process. 

[JoeyFlex5]

You clearly missed the class - his scheme is great, Jimmy Smith plays too tentative.

yeah to hell with him and his lisfranc, pees calling cover 3 for entire 2nd halves and willingly letting offenses predict every dbs positioning is jimmys fault lol

[Guest]

One comment of interest was that DeCosta, not Ozzie, has been running the draft the last few years.

 

Well...the next question is how do fans feel about the drafts the last few years?

 

We are definitely in a slump. I'd prefer them both gone and DeCosta scares the dickens out of me, but the owner is gonna stand behind them at least one more year.

 

After watching the press conference, its pretty clear it was primarily happy talk.  When queried about the gap between us and our playoff rivals Bisciotti stammered like he had a speech impediment. Bisciotti also made a point to direct Ozzie about our weakness on defense in areas we've recently drafted. Oz was off in space for some of that presser. 

 

Not very encouraging, but overcoming injuries would help turn the corner. Still we have a long way to get back to what we were.  When Bisciotti said they felt we improved the team after the Superbowl, I about fell out of my chair laughing.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Danny D

[MTRavensFan]

Guys, I moved the in-depth argument about Pees over to the Pees thread - it's not gone, so carry on.

 

Loved what Bisciotti had to say about RLewis making everyone around him 10% better, and how now that Sizzle is that guy, the domino effect that losing him had on the entire defense this year.. Also that he hasn't been in the building because he's been dealing with some personal issues, and that Suggs is definately planning on coming back.

[usmccharles]

Guys, I moved the in-depth argument about Pees over to the Pees thread - it's not gone, so carry on.

 

Loved what Bisciotti had to say about RLewis making everyone around him 10% better, and how now that Sizzle is that guy, the domino effect that losing him had on the entire defense this year.. Also that he hasn't been in the building because he's been dealing with some personal issues, and that Suggs is definately planning on coming back.

This.  I have been saying this for awhile.  We all knew it would change the dynamics of our Defense but i dont think anyone thought to that extent.  I give pees credit for turning it around in the later half of the season, especially with a terrible offense. 

[StephenGreen]

After watching the press conference, its pretty clear it was primarily happy talk.  When queried about the gap between us and our playoff rivals Bisciotti stammered like he had a speech impediment. Bisciotti also made a point to direct Ozzie about our weakness on defense in areas we've recently drafted. Oz was off in space for some of that presser. 

 

 When Bisciotti said they felt we improved the team after the Superbowl, I about fell out of my chair laughing.

 

My head is still spinning from this presser.  Not one thing was said that made any sense, and for anyone here on this board who does not recognize that we are falling behind competitively with our competition, you are seriously missing some glaring issues (spare me the Steelers 2 wins this year).  

 

Even had we stayed healthy we wouldn't have been any good. Where's our Antonio Brown?  Our L'evon Bell?  Our AJ Green?  Our anybody!  Outside of our kicker and punter, there isn't even one player on the Ravens that any team would pay "up" for, and yet, we have this tendency to overpay our talent whom no one else will trade for!  You could not get a washroom attendant in a trade for Suggs, yet some here think he's gonna be a pro-Bowler in '16...are you kidding me?!?!  He has torn the same achilles 2x, plus he's overweight.  Try trading him and let me know what the offers look like.

 

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but I predict a horrific '16 due to intransigence, followed by a house cleaning.  Believe me: wish it was not so.  But for Bisciotti to not recognize the problems will only ingrain a growing losing spirit in the locker room.   

[MTRavensFan]

This.  I have been saying this for awhile.  We all knew it would change the dynamics of our Defense but i dont think anyone thought to that extent.  I give pees credit for turning it around in the later half of the season, especially with a terrible offense. 

yeah, I think Steve explained it in detail and very well.

[usmccharles]

My head is still spinning from this presser.  Not one thing was said that made any sense, and for anyone here on this board who does not recognize that we are falling behind competitively with our competition, you are seriously missing some glaring issues (spare me the Steelers 2 wins this year).  

 

Even had we stayed healthy we wouldn't have been any good. Where's our Antonio Brown?  Our L'evon Bell?  Our AJ Green?  Our anybody!  Outside of our kicker and punter, there isn't even one player on the Ravens that any team would pay "up" for, and yet, we have this tendency to overpay our talent whom no one else will trade for!  You could not get a washroom attendant in a trade for Suggs, yet some here think he's gonna be a pro-Bowler in '16...are you kidding me?!?!  He has torn the same achilles 2x, plus he's overweight.  Try trading him and let me know what the offers look like.

 

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but I predict a horrific '16 due to intransigence, followed by a house cleaning.  Believe me: wish it was not so.  But for Bisciotti to not recognize the problems will only ingrain a growing losing spirit in the locker room.   

Good idea to make predictions before the actual NFL season is over, before Fa or the Draft, seems legit....

[SpencerH555227]

Ozzies always said he hates talking to the media so I understand why he may of come across as "lost in space" but really I think it just shows he hates doing it. Personally I think our last couple drafts have been realy strong. Ozzies the king of these under-the-radar free agent pickups. I think our team would be in much worse shape if it wasnt for Daryl Smith, Will Hill, and steve smith. Those are arguabally the best players on our team. Ozzie and DeCosta over any other gms imo

[K-Dog]

"Loosing spirit in the locker room "

I mean WOW. That is just.....

I don't know what to say.

I see absolutely nothing what so ever that makes me believe there is a "loosing spirit " ANYWHERE in the organization.

[SpencerH555227]

Perriman and Smith have that playmaking ability and unfortunately they were both injured this season. Suggs is so valuable to our system. I will agree maybe he has slowed down a bit due to age but his ability to set the edge is still elite and in the end that's what you want most in a 34 OLB. If you don't believe me look at how our run D struggled without him. Proof is in the tape, the tape doesn't lie.

[Edgar]

Completely out of touch presser today. Ravens have a long term problem. Bad player personnel, contract, draft decisions will continue to be made.  Presser was almost as if Bisciotti and Ozzie thought the season went perfectly well.  I love continuity as much as anyone, but there is a gentle way to move people laterally and allow for some better talent to drive contract decisions.  This crew is burying the team for a long time.    

 

Prediction now for 2016: 4-12. At that point, Bisciotti will clean house, going two steps further than he should, but his ire, and the fans', will be at a boiling point.  Unfortunately, the decisions he will make in a year, should be made today.  Harbaugh is great, but anyone making draft and contract decisions needs to be moved sideways and allow for better decisions to be made.

 

Let's start by making Eric Weddle a priority signing.  Solid character, good for the team, the kind of leader players respond to, doesn't get hurt, not expensive.  Show some original thinking guys.

I agree with your assertion that the press conference seemed out of touch. It reminded me of last years press conference in some ways though it seemed oddly more upbeat and positive.

[Edgar]

The comment about being prepared to play next year with Joe under his existing deal seems odd to me. It could represent negotiation by way of posturing,I suppose but assuming that were to happen, how prohibitive would that number be in terms of making other signings?

[usmccharles]

The comment about being prepared to play next year with Joe under his existing deal seems odd to me. It could represent negotiation by way of posturing,I suppose but assuming that were to happen, how prohibitive would that number be in terms of making other signings?

Always prepare for the worst. 

[JEEPercreepermd]

The comment about being prepared to play next year with Joe under his existing deal seems odd to me. It could represent negotiation by way of posturing,I suppose but assuming that were to happen, how prohibitive would that number be in terms of making other signings?

It absolutely was posturing. What I took from it is this if I can paraphrase it...

Ozzie:Joe, we want to upgrade the LT position by moving Osemele there..but we have to pay him. We also want to add a few more receivers which is what you want as well. If we can't come to an agreement we will have a plan in place to field the best team possible given our cap situation, but you may not be happy to see possible James Hurst at Left Tackle and a WR corps similar to what you had this season.

Anyway, just my opinion. Joe is a smart guy, and I'm sure they'll be able to re structure..I wouldn't be worried about that at all.

[January J]

lol You think they are always right? They weren't right about Cam were they? Yet 90% of the people here were right about him.

 

I've not seen anyone say they could run the entire organization better at all. But sometimes, people are either too close to a situation to see it properly or too close to a person to see their failures. Happens all the time.

 

Called this defensive nightmare last season - and everyone was just like you then too. *shrugs*

 

So if we find ourselves here again next year? Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

is anybody always right? And who says we'll be doing the same thing just bc we will keep the same coaches? Plenty of adjustments will be made. So no that is not " insanity". Your definitely over thinking things.

[January J]

My head is still spinning from this presser.  Not one thing was said that made any sense, and for anyone here on this board who does not recognize that we are falling behind competitively with our competition, you are seriously missing some glaring issues (spare me the Steelers 2 wins this year).  

 

Even had we stayed healthy we wouldn't have been any good. Where's our Antonio Brown?  Our L'evon Bell?  Our AJ Green?  Our anybody!  Outside of our kicker and punter, there isn't even one player on the Ravens that any team would pay "up" for, and yet, we have this tendency to overpay our talent whom no one else will trade for!  You could not get a washroom attendant in a trade for Suggs, yet some here think he's gonna be a pro-Bowler in '16...are you kidding me?!?!  He has torn the same achilles 2x, plus he's overweight.  Try trading him and let me know what the offers look like.

 

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but I predict a horrific '16 due to intransigence, followed by a house cleaning.  Believe me: wish it was not so.  But for Bisciotti to not recognize the problems will only ingrain a growing losing spirit in the locker room.

your delusional. You say nothin they said in the presser made sense...I feel that way about your post. I don't know where you people even get this stuff from or how it could even be perceived that way.

[jimmypowder]

Its interesting that DeCosta has been running the draft lately. The drafts havent been too good

lately. That's the biggest revelation from the love fest we saw yesterday.