Who should we take at #6?

[ravensnation5220]

Been watching a lot of treadwell and noticed something i didn't know. This kid has incredible balance and body control either when running the ball or going up for a ball. Is as physical a receiver as ive seen in a while and is a phenomenal blocker when he wants to be. Kinda reminds. Me of alshon Jeffrey. I still notice him take plays off constantly and at times looks like he doesnt even try to block the guy in front of him. It may not be as worrysome as it seems but definitely something to take note. Im sure harbaugh could keep his motor consistent. Kinda the same issue jernigan has

[GrimCoconut]

Been watching a lot of treadwell and noticed something i didn't know. This kid has incredible balance and body control either when running the ball or going up for a ball. Is as physical a receiver as ive seen in a while and is a phenomenal blocker when he wants to be. Kinda reminds. Me of alshon Jeffrey. I still notice him take plays off constantly and at times looks like he doesnt even try to block the guy in front of him. It may not be as worrysome as it seems but definitely something to take note. Im sure harbaugh could keep his motor consistent. Kinda the same issue jernigan has

This is exactly who I see when I watch him play. 

[ravensnation5220]

This is exactly who I see when I watch him play.

would work for trestman really well. Have breshad and treadwell outside and have steve as our #3 so he can stay fresh throughout the season aiken would provide solid depth. Then have gillmore and an improved maxx williams that would be a leathal passing attack

[GrimCoconut]

would work for trestman really well. Have breshad and treadwell outside and have steve as our #3 so he can stay fresh throughout the season aiken would provide solid depth. Then have gillmore and an improved maxx williams that would be a leathal passing attack

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc. 

[Inqui]

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc. 

I'd be on board with that. That would give us a similar build to the Cowboys, the Steelers or what the Packers have been trying to do (until Lacy basically got fat). That's a really good way to go in the modern league imo - especially since our front seven is possibly more dynamic than anything those three sides could combine for. If we stick with Monroe for another year you can pull the Dahl pick for a C upgrade (there are a few decent options, including the guy Raiinev1 and I have been plugging for a while).

[ravensnation5220]

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc.

It is a great idea considering how often our offense failed to pull through early in the season when we could have put the game away. Unless we sign a receivers in free agency but i dont see ozzie spending money on receivers so this might be his best chance to have as dynamic offense. Not sure id want another rb though. I understand how good Elliott is but either way he might go in the first anyways. I saw grab kendall fuller in the second round. Hes a guy who could help out a lot. True baller from bmore area would help force some turnovers and bring a little youth to the secondary. Regardless of what we do i feel its necessary to add a corner early

[Deflated Football]

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc.

That would be a brilliant draft.

[Deflated Football]

Who does Zeke remind everybody of?

[January J]

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc.

you make it sound so enticing. After today's presser I'm almost positive a receiver and pass rusher will be taken in the first 2 rounds in either order depending on how the board falls. And I'd much rather pass on Elliot and lock up yannick. Dont want to take a chance of missing out on him and can't see him falling to the third. I really think he's the real deal.

[ravenz2752]

Who does Zeke remind everybody of?

I might get judged for this but he really reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw in the Giants days. 

 

A nice all around back who can block well

[52520Andrew]

I'd be on board with that. That would give us a similar build to the Cowboys, the Steelers or what the Packers have been trying to do (until Lacy basically got fat). That's a really good way to go in the modern league imo - especially since our front seven is possibly more dynamic than anything those three sides could combine for. If we stick with Monroe for another year you can pull the Dahl pick for a C upgrade (there are a few decent options, including the guy Raiinev1 and I have been plugging for a while).

 

The Mizzou guy?

 

I am obviously a big fan of Treadwell in this offense(I was one of the first to bring up the idea of him in this offense way back when), I think he could do really well for us. I still have some questions with him about long speed and separation but I think he would be a really fun addition. I have been comparing him to that other Bears WR under Trestman who got traded this year in Marshal. That is the type of player we really need on the offense, who can consistently move the chains and threaten the defense with his physicality and also be a back shoulder target deep. He compliments who we have really well. 

 

What I have realized though is that there is still a lot of research that I have to do on these guys, really want to look more into Buckner and Robinson. I know our D-line is deep but if we got ourselves a Calais Campbell of our own, that could put our front 7 over the top. Robinson is just a freak and it sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders as well. I know he is probably the most hit or miss guy of the draft but if Ramsey hits, I think you are getting something special with him as well. Imagine the Steelers having to worry about him coming off the edge on blitzes for years to come. Also gotta look into Hargreaves and Alexander more who both have the potential to be really good corners, an area we really need to improve with Webb moving to FS and Wright being a FA. Jack may not be the best scheme fit but he looks to be the future prototypical hybrid linebacker and a guy who could hang with the Barnidges and Eiferts that we have to play twice per year. And this is all if we miss out on Stanley, Bosa, or Tunsil who are my top 3 players. 

[Sizzlebshu]

I might get judged for this but he really reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw in the Giants days.

A nice all around back who can block well

Thats actually the same comp i have

[52520Andrew]

Also on the topic of Zeke in the second, I would be pretty happy with that one. Obviously depends who is on the board but I see him as a guy who fits our scheme very well and if we ended up with Tunsil or Stanley in the first, doubling down on our running game could be fun. You could just rotate him, Buck, and West/LT(gonna assume we let Forsett go if we took Zeke) and pound other teams into the ground. Then open up the deep game with Flacco and hopefully a healthy BP. And our TEs are all good blockers as well so that could be really fun on play action. 

[Inqui]

The Mizzou guy?

 

I am obviously a big fan of Treadwell in this offense(I was one of the first to bring up the idea of him in this offense way back when), I think he could do really well for us. I still have some questions with him about long speed and separation but I think he would be a really fun addition. I have been comparing him to that other Bears WR under Trestman who got traded this year in Marshal. That is the type of player we really need on the offense, who can consistently move the chains and threaten the defense with his physicality and also be a back shoulder target deep. He compliments who we have really well. 

 

What I have realized though is that there is still a lot of research that I have to do on these guys, really want to look more into Buckner and Robinson. I know our D-line is deep but if we got ourselves a Calais Campbell of our own, that could put our front 7 over the top. Robinson is just a freak and it sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders as well. I know he is probably the most hit or miss guy of the draft but if Ramsey hits, I think you are getting something special with him as well. Imagine the Steelers having to worry about him coming off the edge on blitzes for years to come. Also gotta look into Hargreaves and Alexander more who both have the potential to be really good corners, an area we really need to improve with Webb moving to FS and Wright being a FA. Jack may not be the best scheme fit but he looks to be the future prototypical hybrid linebacker and a guy who could hang with the Barnidges and Eiferts that we have to play twice per year. And this is all if we miss out on Stanley, Bosa, or Tunsil who are my top 3 players. 

Yeah, Evan Boehm. I just figured people might get sick of me constantly bouncing the name around. But I think he'd be a huge asset for our inside run game, and that'd give Trestman a useful piece to better run his system.

 

I agree with your take on Treadwell, but the one thing I'd add is his red zone presence. Say what you will about how his top end speed (personally I think it suffices but isn't anything to write home about) or route running won't get him open all that much or how he isn't as dynamic as most other WRs taken first, but I have red zone scoring up there with a future Suggs as arguably our biggest need. It's certainly the most underrated imo.

 

Robinson would be a nice Canty replacement (another understated need imo) but I'm not convinced at all with taking him at 6. Buckner would be a great piece here - he's athletic and versatile and Dean Pees would love shuffling him around the various looks of our hybrid front. I'd be comfortable with him at 6, but I'm yet to properly slot him somewhere on my board. If the big three are gone and we can't trade back, Buckner, Treadwell or Ramsey would all be good pickups imo.

 

I've been coming around a lot more lately on Ramsey, and I can see myself going back and forth a lot between him and Treadwell until the draft - you mentioned the Steelers and the blitz, but what about the impact it could have on Andy Dalton? The guy has freakish athleticism (the guy can run from covering someone outside pre-snap to getting right in the QB's face in an instant) and a couple of smart blitzes could have Dalton hearing footsteps a lot more, and we know what happens when he gets nervous. We need to start retooling with beating the Bengals in mind, like we started doing years ago with the Steelers. Defensive speed is a problem we've got, but Ramsey could legitimately win gold medals in a string of Olympic events. If he pans out, he'll be a monster for someone. Not to mention I see him as more of a Will Hill replacement (so if he has a good rookie year we can let Hill walk and focus on Williams and maybe Wagner), so that would be an Ozzie pick in the sense of addressing a less immediate need.

 

I like Zeke a lot in the second if he's there. I want us to have a running game that can churn out 4.5ypc or better, and looking deeper into what works for other teams, having a genuine franchise RB is the best way to turn a good running game into a great one. And Elliott's the only guy that qualifies as a three-down franchise guy in this draft imo. Our second-rounder will be a guy who has first-round value, and I think Zeke can be argued as someone who fits that criteria. Hell, forget an LT. Take him and Treadwell and that'd push us over the top too.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Inqui

[52520Andrew]

Yeah, Evan Boehm. I just figured people might get sick of me constantly bouncing the name around. But I think he'd be a huge asset for our inside run game, and that'd give Trestman a useful piece to better run his system.

 

I agree with your take on Treadwell, but the one thing I'd add is his red zone presence. Say what you will about how his top end speed (personally I think it suffices but isn't anything to write home about) or route running won't get him open all that much or how he isn't as dynamic as most other WRs taken first, but I have red zone scoring up there with a future Suggs as arguably our biggest need. It's certainly the most underrated imo.

 

Robinson would be a nice Canty replacement (another understated need imo) but I'm not convinced at all with taking him at 6. Buckner would be a great piece here - he's athletic and versatile and Dean Pees would love shuffling him around the various looks of our hybrid front. I'd be comfortable with him at 6, but I'm yet to properly slot him somewhere on my board. If the big three are gone and we can't trade back, Buckner, Treadwell or Ramsey would all be good pickups imo.

 

I've been coming around a lot more lately on Ramsey, and I can see myself going back and forth a lot between him and Treadwell until the draft - you mentioned the Steelers and the blitz, but what about the impact it could have on Andy Dalton? The guy has freakish athleticism (the guy can run from covering someone outside pre-snap to getting right in the QB's face in an instant) and a couple of smart blitzes could have Dalton hearing footsteps a lot more, and we know what happens when he gets nervous. We need to start retooling with beating the Bengals in mind, like we started doing years ago with the Steelers. Defensive speed is a problem we've got, but Ramsey could legitimately win gold medals in a string of Olympic events. If he pans out, he'll be a monster for someone. Not to mention I see him as more of a Will Hill replacement (so if he has a good rookie year we can let Hill walk and focus on Williams and maybe Wagner), so that would be an Ozzie pick in the sense of addressing a less immediate need.

 

I like Zeke a lot in the second if he's there. I want us to have a running game that can churn out 4.5ypc or better, and looking deeper into what works for other teams, having a genuine franchise RB is the best way to turn a good running game into a great one. And Elliott's the only guy that qualifies as a three-down franchise guy in this draft imo. Our second-rounder will be a guy who has first-round value, and I think Zeke can be argued as someone who fits that criteria. Hell, forget an LT. Take him and Treadwell and that'd push us over the top too.

 

I need to look into him more as well(think he is hitting the senior bowl? That is usually a good time to evaluate guys in the trenches) but I have liked what I have seen. 

 

Yeah red zone presence is something we have been missing. Losing Pitta hurt us here a lot. I think Gilmore can turn into that guy with more time but Treadwell should be good in the redzone as well. 

 

I think it would be a BPA pick. Still have to look into him more but a guy that can move like that at his size is big. I know we don't talk about him much as he was a bit inconsistent and not worth his price tag but when Ngata was on, he was something special. Not sold that Robinson is that type of player but he has a lot of upside to fill that sort of role and I think Brooks would have a ton of fun with him. 

 

Messing with Dalton is always good in my book but there is a reason I brought up the Steelers and blitzing off the edge. 

 

That would be a lot of fun as well although getting hopefully a stud at LT to make the O-line that much better would be fun and help the run game that much more. I'd be happy with either though.

[JoeyFlex5]

I think if zeke is there in the second then you can rule out all other options unless someone takes a massive tumble. That's an Ozzie pick.

[allblackraven]

I think if zeke is there in the second then you can rule out all other options unless someone takes a massive tumble. That's an Ozzie pick.

Maybe not if there's good pass rusher available and we went WR/DB in first.

[JoeyFlex5]

Welcome to my idea. Not trying to sound condescending here, only remarking on how much I agree, lol. I think we should go for the offense here. Put the foot to the metal and let it ride. Say "if you want to call penalties on our defense for everything, OK, we will play ball" and go for the diesel engine, high-powered passing attack. I'd be thrilled with a draft if we took Treadwell, Elliott, Ngakoue, & Dahl (1-4th picks). Re-sign KO & put him at LT, cut Monroe or keep him & have Dahl as the back-up LT & cut Monroe next year if you want, etc.

That's my gm...

[JoeyFlex5]

Maybe not if there's good pass rusher available and we went WR/DB in first.

if there's a pass rusher available that makes Ozzie say no to zeke at 37th overall, then he would fall in the massive tumble category lol

[allblackraven]

if there's a pass rusher available that makes Ozzie say no to zeke at 37th overall, then he would fall in the massive tumble category lol

In our current situation you would go very good RB over Yannick Ngakoue, who very well might be there for us in 2nd?

[JoeyFlex5]

In our current situation you would go very good RB over Yannick Ngakoue, who very well might be there for us in 2nd?

I wouldn't. I believe Ozzie would.

[Cillmatic]

One bad game from a guy who otherwise has had a phenomenal career and tape to watch.

No, he sucks for the last three games. Edited January 8, 2016 by Cillmatic

[JoeyFlex5]

2 weeks straight and Walter football has us taking a'shawn Robinson...

They have been pretty spot on with our picks recently... If we take Robinson with this rare high pick, I just might need to root for another team until heads Start rolling courtesy of Mr. Bisciotti

[52liveforever]

2 weeks straight and Walter football has us taking a'shawn Robinson...

They have been pretty spot on with our picks recently... If we take Robinson with this rare high pick, I just might need to root for another team until heads Start rolling courtesy of Mr. Bisciotti

 

Drafttek has us taking Bosa at 6.

[RavensFanMania]

Not 100% sure but I'm guessing he would have to have written appraisal from the NFL giving him 1st round grade. Then if he declares and gets selected outside of 1st, he collects. It's probably also scaled payout, depending how much later he gets selected.

 

I'm a financial independent broker specializing in life, disability, annuities and health insurance.  These are loss of value policies and pay out based on where the insurance company projects them to be picked. 

[ravensnation5220]

2 weeks straight and Walter football has us taking a'shawn Robinson...

They have been pretty spot on with our picks recently... If we take Robinson with this rare high pick, I just might need to root for another team until heads Start rolling courtesy of Mr. Bisciotti

spot on? I honestly never.liked walter football. I feel their mocks are ridiculous and big boards too. They have a third round grade on alexander lol

[RavensFanMania]

His agent probably pays it for him. I assume he has one. 

Ever since 2014 some schools have been picking up the premium from the NCAA Student Assistance Fund.  No player prior to Ekpre-Olomu's had ever collected on the policy.

[Tatelli]

Taking in account of how close our losses were this season. If Treadwell is there I think he and Perriman along with our solid TE's would put together some high scoring games. As long as were somehow able to develop a young WR group, which we seem to have problems with and use them properly.

[January J]

spot on? I honestly never.liked walter football. I feel their mocks are ridiculous and big boards too. They have a third round grade on alexander lol

if Alexander fell to the third Ozzie would run to the podium himself to announce the pick. Edited January 8, 2016 by January J

[JoeyFlex5]

spot on? I honestly never.liked walter football. I feel their mocks are ridiculous and big boards too. They have a third round grade on alexander lol

they're way off on some guys, and their mocks look ridiculous until the draft comes and then they're not that far off lol.they were like the only outlet that had us taking perriman, and they guessed that for a good2months and didn't change