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Who should we take at #6?

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You are a special WR when your game tape shows you laying mean blocks on LINEBACKERS. Laquon is the WR version of Cam Newton.

He blocks like Larry Fitzgerald and breaks tackles like Dez Bryant. Time will tell if he runs routes like Antonio Brown, but he's certainly no slouch in that area either. Barring injury, he deserves top 10 consideration for sure.

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I'll be shocked if Ozzie doesn't take Treadwell. Tough, reliable hands, great route runner, built for the North and is the perfect compliment to BP (or the other way around). The WR position is just as important as any other position on the team in terms of need, and we have to stop with the signing of aging vets unless it's for that 3 or 4 spot. 

I think so too. I mean what else can you do? Can you get an elite LT? What if both of them are gone(Tunsil & Stanley), and Bosa is taken as well? Do you really want to select another 5 tech when you are already stacked at that position? For me, I want a playmaker at 6, on offense or defense. That's why If we take Treadwell at 6, then I'm fine with that. 

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Who do you have ahead of him? This isn't a rhetorical question.

For me he's always been the top WR but after analyzing our season and struggles and reasons why we lost combined with constant failures against the Bengals, I feel Treadwell jumps up high on my board. Combine this with the fact that this is Smith's final year and we have no idea what to expect from Perriman makes me nervous in terms of our WR.

I really like Stanley and Tunsil. I'd take them over Treadwell. That said, I can see why we'd take Treadwell over them if we re-signef KO. While I wouldn't complain if we re-signed KO and drafted a LT high, would you be happy with that?

I don't see a lot of elite talents in this class.

agreed. Looking at several of our games, one play literally could have been the difference in a win or a loss. I mean there were several games that came down to the last drive , inside the red zone trailing by 8 or less- and our receivers failed to get separation. We need a guy that not only will get open but who Joe will not be afraid to throw it up to and trust him to fight and come down with the ball regardless. Now there are three arguments here...one is we already have perriman...but obviously we cannot bank on him..and with sss being on the way out we need to start Developing another on top of perriman. Sorry but wallers not that guy. He may end up being a nice red zone target but we will see. But the last time that flacco had a speedster to stretch the feild and a big bodied guy who will go up and get it.. we won it all. ( torrey and boldin ) I think Perriman and Treadwell can be those guys. And having 2 players like that for the next 4-5 years for next to nothing is pretty awesome. Another argument is In all of those games that came down to the last drive- if our dbs or pass rushers had done their job and gotten off the feild without giving up so many third down conversions and big plays , it would have never gotten to that point. That furthers the argument for a db or pass rusher...but looking at some of the value in

The 2nd and 3rd rounds ..it's much better than that of receiver. There's also the argument of needing to protect Joe now more than ever...but if we sign KO that will be a none issue as well.

Bc of these 3 arguments you could justify 3 picks other than treadwell...and one of them will likely be gone. ( bosa) Stanley, Alexander and Treadwell are 3 of our biggest options. And we may even be able to trade back and still get 2 of the 3. Maybe, depending on the combine. But I def will be banging on the table for either of these 4 guys.

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Since we dont know what we have in BP and SSr retiring, drafting Tread is a win/win imo.  If BP is a bust (some think he will be) then we have a back up plan already here.  If BP works out and Tread works out, we are set at WRs and TEs for a bit. Win/Win

 

Dallas picking ahead of us scares me to death....

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agreed. Looking at several of our games, one play literally could have been the difference in a win or a loss. I mean there were several games that came down to the last drive , inside the red zone trailing by 8 or less- and our receivers failed to get separation. We need a guy that not only will get open but who Joe will not be afraid to throw it up to and trust him to fight and come down with the ball regardless. Now there are three arguments here...one is we already have perriman...but obviously we cannot bank on him..and with sss being on the way out we need to start Developing another on top of perriman. Sorry but wallers not that guy. He may end up being a nice red zone target but we will see. But the last time that flacco had a speedster to stretch the feild and a big bodied guy who will go up and get it.. we won it all. ( torrey and boldin ) I think Perriman and Treadwell can be those guys. And having 2 players like that for the next 4-5 years for next to nothing is pretty awesome. Another argument is In all of those games that came down to the last drive- if our dbs or pass rushers had done their job and gotten off the feild without giving up so many third down conversions and big plays , it would have never gotten to that point. That furthers the argument for a db or pass rusher...but looking at some of the value in

The 2nd and 3rd rounds ..it's much better than that of receiver. There's also the argument of needing to protect Joe now more than ever...but if we sign KO that will be a none issue as well.

Here's my view: we have a chance to have two excellent WR on the cheap. If we score more points, then that'll translate better for us. Teams also won't be able to just stop our run game and think we're done if we have weapons threatening them. This will make teams pass on us more but I do like our chances of fixing this secondary and pass rush.
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Since we dont know what we have in BP and SSr retiring, drafting Tread is a win/win imo.  If BP is a bust (some think he will be) then we have a back up plan already here.  If BP works out and Tread works out, we are set at WRs and TEs for a bit. Win/Win

 

Dallas picking ahead of us scares me to death....

I'm not too worried about dallas. It does suck that jaylon got injured though- bc I almost have no doubt they would've taken him. But I can't seem them taking Treadwell and getting another guy like dez. However if bosa falls you can bet they will snatch him up. Esp if they have already made a play for Johnny football.
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I'm not too worried about dallas. It does suck that jaylon got injured though- bc I almost have no doubt they would've taken him. But I can't seem them taking Treadwell and getting another guy like dez. However if bosa falls you can bet they will snatch him up. Esp if they have already made a play for Johnny football.

With Terrence Williams being a FA it makes i could see it, do you know how their cap situation is?

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Since we dont know what we have in BP and SSr retiring, drafting Tread is a win/win imo.  If BP is a bust (some think he will be) then we have a back up plan already here.  If BP works out and Tread works out, we are set at WRs and TEs for a bit. Win/Win

 

Dallas picking ahead of us scares me to death....

they may hurt our feelings by taking a guy we really like, but they wont break us like in years past, they wont be taking our one and only target and leaving us with absolutely nothing. 

 

i will say though... after seeing how jerry reacted to us passing on byron jones... i kinda wish we took him lol

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they may hurt our feelings by taking a guy we really like, but they wont break us like in years past, they wont be taking our one and only target and leaving us with absolutely nothing. 

 

i will say though... after seeing how jerry reacted to us passing on byron jones... i kinda wish we took him lol

how did Byron even turn out? Haven't followed him much. Obviously right now any other pick seems better than Perriman just bc he didn't play a snap. Hopefully he ends up being worth the wait...and I think he will.
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Since we dont know what we have in BP and SSr retiring, drafting Tread is a win/win imo.  If BP is a bust (some think he will be) then we have a back up plan already here.  If BP works out and Tread works out, we are set at WRs and TEs for a bit. Win/Win

 

Dallas picking ahead of us scares me to death....

It almost seems like Sleazy Jones has a spy or mole in our front office! He seems to either jump ahead of us to pick a player we covet or just draft them ahead of us. Either way, he's been a thorn in our flesh come draft day. And we are talking about dumb Jerry Jones here. He wouldn't be able to think good drafting unless he's cheating...

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Ah! A poll. Can I vote on who we take. We fans pay the bills so I should be able to pick...

 

Oh wait...

 

I think we take Treadwell. He's built for our offense. He gets jump balls, is a smooth route runner. Good but not great speed. Great hands. Physical.

 

To have him and Perriman. That's problematic for anyone. I think Trestman wants to replicate what he had up in Chicago. Jeffery and Marshall were two tall and physical WRs. Both had strong hands. 

 

And yes, Breshad has strong hands. He suffers from a concentration drop issue. That's fixable. 

 

 

I want Stanley... BADLY. But I think Treadwell is the pick. He's got a high ceiling. 

 

A few weeks back, my first thought was us taking a LT, but now I'm on the Treadwell band wagon and you pretty much explained why. Perriman and Treadwell on the outside, SSS in the slot, out TE group, and a nice group of RB's would be a handful for any team

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how did Byron even turn out? Haven't followed him much. Obviously right now any other pick seems better than Perriman just bc he didn't play a snap. Hopefully he ends up being worth the wait...and I think he will.

hes been alright, been a mover, started at safety and slid to cb due to an injury and was pretty sound in coverage for most of the year. didnt jump off the screen or anything but he did just about as well as expected, he was considered a bit of a project to begin with, so for him to play smart and sound football as a rookie was a good sign. i think like most prospects, we wont know for sure until around year 3, still got a lot to prove

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Lol, well, the odds are more like 1/6 or 16%. I catch your drift, though. It seems unlikely Bosa makes it but you just never know in the draft. Williams was widely seen as the top player last year and he fell. It happens.

Yeah, maybe "virtually 0%" was a bit of an exaggeration. Honestly, if we were picking #3, I think we'd have a fair shot at him. There certainly is the possibility that Tunsil will be viewed as the best value in the draft and could be taken #1. Then, Cleveland goes QB, leaving us with Bosa. But for SD, DAL and JAX to all pass on Bosa seems really unlikely. 

 

True though ... players drop and sometimes for mysterious reasons. Who knows, maybe he'll trip over a cone, run .05 secs slower on his 40 or jump 1/2 inch lower on his vertical leap than expected and he'll be viewed as unworthy of a top 5 pick.  :wacko:

 

If he doesn't fall to us, I'd just as soon he goes #1 ... I don't want to think about any what ifs concerning our having won one too many games, should he end up at #3. 

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It almost seems like Sleazy Jones has a spy or mole in our front office! He seems to either jump ahead of us to pick a player we covet or just draft them ahead of us. Either way, he's been a thorn in our flesh come draft day. And we are talking about dumb Jerry Jones here. He wouldn't be able to think good drafting unless he's cheating...

have you seen how well theyve drafted though? theyve been one of the better drafting teams recently

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have you seen how well theyve drafted though? theyve been one of the better drafting teams recently

I think that was his point, implying ing they are drafting well because a mole in our FO Edited by usmccharles
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Since we dont know what we have in BP and SSr retiring, drafting Tread is a win/win imo.  If BP is a bust (some think he will be) then we have a back up plan already here.  If BP works out and Tread works out, we are set at WRs and TEs for a bit. Win/Win

 

Dallas picking ahead of us scares me to death....

If they take Treadwell then someone good will fall to us. If Bosa manages to get past them, then I'm sure he'll be a Raven. 

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I'm still in on Hargreaves, despite his poor last game.  I'm choosing to look at his entire career and he's still highly impressive.

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have you seen how well theyve drafted though? theyve been one of the better drafting teams recently

Strangely great drafting! That is precisely the reason for my conspiracy theory of a mole in our draft room! Dez Bryant, Zack Martin, etc. :P

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Seems like Alexander isn't the most aware guy, nor is he a good tackler and he displays little block shredding skill. The FSU game makes me worry about him.

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Seems like Alexander isn't the most aware guy, nor is he a good tackler and he displays little block shredding skill. The FSU game makes me worry about him.

And that's exactly what we don't need. Tired of our DB's not wrapping up and finishing tackles. I don't like Alexander at 6. If I'm taking a DB in the top 10, homeboy needs to be an elite prospect with the potential to shut down one side of the field. Alexander, to me, just doesn't have those intangibles. I'd rather take VH3, but again, not in the top 10. Treadwell's my guy.

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Seems like Alexander isn't the most aware guy, nor is he a good tackler and he displays little block shredding skill. The FSU game makes me worry about him.

Agreed. I think we have to try and trade down for a 2017 first rounder. In this draft, someone is going to drop. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Treadwell or Buckner to be there for us once we trade down into the 10s.

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The more I watch Treadwell I see a young Boldin who lit things up with the Cardinals great hands good route runner tough physical can block. I'm not feeling the VH3 anymore last 2 games he was awful. Everything depends on what KO does pass rusher OLB is my 1st option I would be fine going Boyd in the 2nd but I do like Treadwell a lot

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The more I watch Treadwell I see a young Boldin who lit things up with the Cardinals great hands good route runner tough physical can block. I'm not feeling the VH3 anymore last 2 games he was awful. Everything depends on what KO does pass rusher OLB is my 1st option I would be fine going Boyd in the 2nd but I do like Treadwell a lot

I'm seeing Larry Fitzgerald.

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