Who should we take at #6?

[52520Andrew]

With all the talk about trades and prospects falling, I wanted to do a thread that addressed the hypothetical worst case scenario for how the board plays out(at least to me). In this situation, Bosa, Tunsil, and Stanley all go and Goff and Lynch are gone as well making it impossible for us to get the right value trading down with a QB needy team.

 

I feel that this is an area where a lot of people have different opinions as to where we can go and I wanted to see what everyone else thinks. Who would you take? I tried to be as open as I could with these choices, I do not think all of these guys listed are worth taking at 6 but someone might. If you do not want any of these guys and select other, please list who you would take over the guys I have listed. I also did not list these guys in any particular order in case anyone was wondering.

 

I'll post my thoughts on the subject later but I want them to be separate from this post as I don't want to influence anyone's choices in this post.

Edited March 3, 2016 by 52520Andrew

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Ah! A poll. Can I vote on who we take. We fans pay the bills so I should be able to pick...

 

Oh wait...

 

I think we take Treadwell. He's built for our offense. He gets jump balls, is a smooth route runner. Good but not great speed. Great hands. Physical.

 

To have him and Perriman. That's problematic for anyone. I think Trestman wants to replicate what he had up in Chicago. Jeffery and Marshall were two tall and physical WRs. Both had strong hands. 

 

And yes, Breshad has strong hands. He suffers from a concentration drop issue. That's fixable. 

 

 

I want Stanley... BADLY. But I think Treadwell is the pick. He's got a high ceiling. 

[PurpleCity5]

Man, I don't know. I've lightened up to Ramsey but I'm still weary of him. I have to be honest here and I know I did not want a WR at this spot but I have to go with Laquan Treadwell. 

[allblackraven]

Of all the players left to chose from, Treadwell seems to be the safest pick - my vote goes to him. It's a very close call between him and both DLs, so he wins based on our current need.

 

I feel it will be different closer to draft, when I usually lean toward defensive guys.

[Cillmatic]

Treadwell might not even be a reach at this point. He's the best WR in a weak draft. If we don't take him he'd be gone within a few picks after ours.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Cillmatic

[January J]

Voted Treadwell- but I would be just as happy going with Alexander.

Good poll- a very possible scenario. Hopefully we're not that unlucky and the board doesn't fall.that way, but either way we will have to make the best of it.

Edited January 5, 2016 by January J

[TDubbs]

Laquon Treadwell - Wow do I see potential. Size, speed and strength. Will he be a #1 WR in this league? I don't see anything stopping that. Pair him w/ Perriman for years to come and we have some weapons (not to mention a year of Smitty mentoring them). 

 

VH3 - All I see is a shutdown corner with the ability to compete w/ the top WR's in the league, especially within our division with the likes of AJ Green and Antonio Brown (anyone have an update on Josh Gordon?). 

 

Both of these players may slip to us at #6 and it's a tough decision to make. Personally, I may lean towards Treadwell b/c I don't like the WR depth in this draft, and hopefully we can find someone opposite Jimmy later or in FA. 

[ellicottraven]

Check these gifs of Laquan Treadwell and then tell me he shouldn't be the ONE?

 

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The third one - a one handed catch was made to look so effortless, it is ridiculous! This kid is like a combination of Dez, Julio and Odell Beckham. Lethal weapon on offense if we can get him! He'll make Flacco look so dang good it's not even funny.

Edited January 5, 2016 by ellicottraven

[RaineV1]

I voted other. I want Stanley. Though I'd be pretty happy with Treadwell, Shaq Lawson, or Alexander

[allblackraven]

I voted other. I want Stanley. Though I'd be pretty happy with Treadwell, Shaq Lawson, or Alexander

you can't have  Stanley - gone at first 5 together with Bosa, Tunsil and 2 QBs

[ravefan52]

Check these gifs of Laquan Treadwell and then tell me he shouldn't be the ONE?

Image: https://d3murf.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/treadwellhitch.gif

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Image: https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/laquan-treadwell-one-hand-catch.gif?w=1000

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The third one - a one handed catch was made to look so effortless, it is ridiculous! This kid is like a combination of Dez, Julio and Odell Beckham. Lethal weapon on offense if we can get him! He'll make Flacco look so dang good it's not even funny.

Referring to the fourth one, everyone knows he can be physical and break tackles, but I think his elusiveness is underrated. I like his YAC ability.

[RaineV1]

you can't have  Stanley - gone at first 5 together with Bosa, Tunsil and 2 QBs

I think there's a decent shot of him still being there. Especially if the Jaguars go defense with their first pick. He's solid, but he's not head and shoulders over every one, and we don't know how the combine will change things.

Edited January 5, 2016 by RaineV1

[pechillo]

Why use #6 pick on Treadwell when we could get Mike Williams from Clemson in like the 5th round lol. DB is also a deep draft in my opinion, so take a DL or OLB. If Bosa is there take him. Maybe try to trade up. We're going to have a good amount of picks this draft. And next draft Ozzie can trade comp picks, it's well worth it. Bottom line. We need a playmaker if that playmaker is Treadwell or Ramsey etc. I'm fine with whomever we pick. It just needs to be an immediate impact playmaker. 

[allblackraven]

I think there's a decent shot of him still being there. Especially if the Jaguars go defense with their first pick. He's solid, but he's not head and shoulders over every one, and we don't know how the combine will change things.

I get that but read the parent post - this is supposed to be 'worst case' for us - Tunsil, Stanley, Bosa gone. 2 QBs gone (no trade bait), what do we do then?

[BmoreBird22]

Why use #6 pick on Treadwell when we could get Mike Williams from Clemson in like the 5th round lol.

He didn't declare and if he had checked out medically, he'd be the number one receiver in the draft.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Treadwell or Alexander. 

[arnie_uk]

Why use #6 pick on Treadwell when we could get Mike Williams from Clemson in like the 5th round lol. DB is also a deep draft in my opinion, so take a DL or OLB. If Bosa is there take him. Maybe try to trade up. We're going to have a good amount of picks this draft. And next draft Ozzie can trade comp picks, it's well worth it. Bottom line. We need a playmaker if that playmaker is Treadwell or Ramsey etc. I'm fine with whomever we pick. It just needs to be an immediate impact playmaker.

he's going back to school and will be a top 10 pick next year.

[JoeyFlex5]

I think there's a decent shot of him still being there. Especially if the Jaguars go defense with their first pick. He's solid, but he's not head and shoulders over every one, and we don't know how the combine will change things.

but this is a hypothetical scenario where the obvious favorites are gone.... So in this particular pill were asking who the favorite is among the 2nd tier prospects

[JoeyFlex5]

I think treadwell is the safest bet to live up to his draft status of a 6th pick, I'm going with the safest pick here, and the amount of impact we can get.

In terms of safe, it was between treadwell and buckner, but the impact factor makes me take treadwell. I think the buckner pick would require and OLB in the 2nd pay real dividends and make the same kind of impact as a treadwell

[Kaiowas]

shaq lawson

[sflegend89]

If you read my mock draft, I'm Laquon Treadwell all the way right now. The only team ahead of us that might take him is Dallas but I feel good about him getting to us. Like others have said he's the safest prospect at our pick assuming VH3/Ramsey don't make it to us. Treadwell/Perriman is a duo that can take us into the future and evolve our offense.

 

We play in a division that is home to Antonio Brown and AJ Green (And Josh Gordon if he can somehow stop being a knucklehead), while a DB certainly makes sense if the board falls that way I see it equally as impactful to get a #1 weapon of our own. The hands on Treadwell are next level, Odell Beckham-esque ability to snatch the ball out of the air, but he's physical and has great body control like Dez Bryant. Not saying he's on par with either of those guys but I see no reason he can't be with his talent and natural athleticism. Something that means a lot to me when I watch a player is how good of a feel they have for the game, Treadwell is a ball player through and through, he looks extremely loose, comfortable, and confident in-game. I don't think the NFL game will intimidate him like it does to some WR's.

[JoeyFlex5]

If you read my mock draft, I'm Laquon Treadwell all the way right now. The only team ahead of us that might take him is Dallas but I feel good about him getting to us. Like others have said he's the safest prospect at our pick assuming VH3/Ramsey don't make it to us. Treadwell/Perriman is a duo that can take us into the future and evolve our offense.

We play in a division that is home to Antonio Brown and AJ Green (And Josh Gordon if he can somehow stop being a knucklehead), while a DB certainly makes sense if the board falls that way I see it equally as impactful to get a #1 weapon of our own. The hands on Treadwell are next level, Odell Beckham-esque ability to snatch the ball out of the air, but he's physical and has great body control like Dez Bryant. Not saying he's on par with either of those guys but I see no reason he can't be with his talent and natural athleticism. Something that means a lot to me when I watch a player is how good of a feel they have for the game, Treadwell is a ball player through and through, he looks extremely loose, comfortable, and confident in-game. I don't think the NFL game will intimidate him like it does to some WR's.

spot on analysis and reasoning to why he is a great choice for us. Id also like to add that he saved one of his best performances for the final bowl Game of his career, so he shines in the big moments, that is a very bog indicator for me

[52liveforever]

I think there's a decent shot of him still being there. Especially if the Jaguars go defense with their first pick. He's solid, but he's not head and shoulders over every one, and we don't know how the combine will change things.

 

 I hope youre right, but Jax had the worst pass protection in the league this year and that's a team that is trying to build around Bortles. They have to address their line.

[Inqui]

I'd love Stanley - and either Tunsil or Bosa would probably have to be the picks even over him - but Treadwell's been my #1 WR for a while now, and I'm coming around to the thought of taking him in the top 10. If the guys listed are the best options on the board, I'd be hoping for him or maybe Buckner.

 

I'm all in on making the offence elite - truly give Joe the keys - and a quality weapon for Joe would go a long way to getting that done. Treadwell would be a fantastic fit here (I've already gone over why and no doubt I'll do so again). For all the hype about his bowl game (which, in fairness, was amazing), I actually think his Auburn tape is really underrated.

[Cillmatic]

Check these gifs of Laquan Treadwell and then tell me he shouldn't be the ONE?

Image: https://d3murf.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/treadwellhitch.gif

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Image: https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/laquan-treadwell-one-hand-catch.gif?w=1000

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The third one - a one handed catch was made to look so effortless, it is ridiculous! This kid is like a combination of Dez, Julio and Odell Beckham. Lethal weapon on offense if we can get him! He'll make Flacco look so dang good it's not even funny.

Heck yeah!

Getting Treadwell would also level the playing field; if we get a good offense going we'll actually be able to win shootouts and we'll probably to beat the Bengals.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Cillmatic

[Italian Raven]

First time I watched Carl Lawson I was shocked, and I still feel excited about his pro potential.

If it wasn't for his injuries he would easily be a top5.

He represents our biggest need too (in my opinion): an explosive, natural 3-4 pass-rusher with good leverage and effective moves.

Just like with Oddighizuwa in the late 1st round of the last year, it's just too risky to grab him as high as his talent suggests. I would love to have him wearing black&purple but not at #6.

I think we saw enough OTs taken in the top ten, recently, who didn't perform well enough to justify that pick and other youngsters taken in the late rounds (and are scheme-fit) who simply fill the void nicely (Urschel, Jensen). That's why I generally wouldn't jump of joy for one, there.

I also like Treadwell a lot, his YAC and blocking skills but I doubt Oz wants to have two highly paid WRs in couple of years and honestly we don't need a 'possession' receiver as bad as CB or pass-rushers.

Buckner would be a good fit as a 3-4 DE, adding some serious speed to an already good DLine.

Shaq would be a versatile edge presence too, talented, pretty similar to Bosa (but I like him more).

VH3 would help the secondary greatly, no question, but the lack of good pass-rushers in the next rounds makes me feel like Shaq is more valuable there.

It's very hard between these 3 and I'll probably change opinion many times until April, but for now Shaq is my man

[usmccharles]

After really wanting Ramsey, then HV3, now the Alexander talk, Im always onboard on improving the OLine, but im starting to fall in love with Tread (Judge Tread).  We still dont know what we have in BP but we cant wait to get a replacement after someone is already gone (ie Torrey-BP), i think that was a huge mistake.   Having Tread and BP on the field at the same time could be a duo for years.  He reminds me of a Dez type WR, quick, strong, good hands.  Another postive is that we really wouldnt have to address offensive weapons early on in the draft afterwards and FA WR wouldnt be a top priority as it seems it is every year.  SSr, BP, Aiken, Tread, Gilmoore, Max, Boyle, butler....im ok with those weapons.  

 

But im scared to fall in love with him because of Dallas. 

 

Edit* more i think about it i think Dallas takes him like i stated above.  Witten is at the end of his career and Terrence Williams is a FA.  yet again Dallas grabs someone we want. 

Edited January 5, 2016 by usmccharles

[JoeyFlex5]

First time I watched Carl Lawson I was shocked, and I still feel excited about his pro potential.

If it wasn't for his injuries he would easily be a top5.

He represents our biggest need too (in my opinion): an explosive, natural 3-4 pass-rusher with good leverage and effective moves.

Just like with Oddighizuwa in the late 1st round of the last year, it's just too risky to grab him as high as his talent suggests. I would love to have him wearing black&purple but not at #6.

I think we saw enough OTs taken in the top ten, recently, who didn't perform well enough to justify that pick and other youngsters taken in the late rounds (and are scheme-fit) who simply fill the void nicely (Urschel, Jensen). That's why I generally wouldn't jump of joy for one, there.

I also like Treadwell a lot, his YAC and blocking skills but I doubt Oz wants to have two highly paid WRs in couple of years and honestly we don't need a 'possession' receiver as bad as CB or pass-rushers.

Buckner would be a good fit as a 3-4 DE, adding some serious speed to an already good DLine.

Shaq would be a versatile edge presence too, talented, pretty similar to Bosa (but I like him more).

VH3 would help the secondary greatly, no question, but the lack of good pass-rushers in the next rounds makes me feel like Shaq is more valuable there.

It's very hard between these 3 and I'll probably change opinion many times until April, but for now Shaq is my man

lol you call treadwell a possession receiver and say we don't need him but then hype up Upshaw 2.0. One of the stranger posts I've seen lately

[Italian Raven]

lol you call treadwell a possession receiver and say we don't need him but then hype up Upshaw 2.0. One of the stranger posts I've seen lately

Well the fact I used the '' clearly mean I didn't literally picture him as such.

If you find a better word to help me with it you're welcome. He ain't a speedster nor someone you would use in the slot to convert on a ton of slants.. so I can't find a word.

However, Upshaw was clearly less versatile, more stiff, and not as good as a pass rusher as Shaq, who's more similar to Bosa than the former Raven (for what I've seen so far).

[usmccharles]

Well the fact I used the '' clearly mean I didn't literally picture him as such.

If you find a better word to help me with it you're welcome. He ain't a speedster nor someone you would use in the slot to convert on a ton of slants.. so I can't find a word.

However, Upshaw was clearly less versatile, more stiff, and not as good as a pass rusher as Shaq, who's more similar to Bosa than the former Raven (for what I've seen so far).

Tread in the slot? sign me up...