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[News] Jimmy Smith's Injured Foot Had 'Huge' Impact

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I knew it and it is exactly what I said and thought! I love jimmy smith and he was phenomenal in 2013-14. You could tell the injury slowed him down and that due to the inability to train, he would be rusty. It was easy to see by the second half of the season that jimmy looked better and was more tight in his coverage. We know you are a top 5-10 corner jimmy and we hope Ozzie gets you a top notch partner in the draft to shut things down with. Hopefully HG3, King, or Alexander.

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I don't know why I bother in these parts. I post some statistics done by University of Pennsylvania's School of Orthopedics and people want to ignore it and call this an excuse. It's incredible. Haters gonna hate.

 

people dont like facts lol.

 

its screws up their entire reasoning....

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He didn't threaten him with the open market because Jimmy had one more year on his contract due to the fifth year option. Ozzie just wanted to sign him.

He most certainly did. Smith was heading into a contract season. The choices were to sign him early or  risk having to pay a premium or perhaps lose him. Rosenhaus was the better player at the table. The Ravens had already picked up the $7mil/5thyear option. A year later while under contract , there was  0 need to secure Smith beyond that  unless pushed or enticed. Drew had no say in the option but after that is a different story.  That's only way any competent GM  wouldn't wait until training camp to see if he anywhere close to 100% in health and/or effectiveness.  In the end Drew got what he wanted - a huge contract extension without having to play for it. 

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.....and the 2nd game against the Steelers? Two huge PI's that eventually resulted in 14 points. Guess we'll have to wait until next year to see.

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He most certainly did. Smith was heading into a contract season. The choices were to sign him early or risk having to pay a premium or perhaps lose him. Rosenhaus was the better player at the table. The Ravens had already picked up the $7mil/5thyear option. Days later, there was 0 need to secure Smith beyond that unless pushed or enticed. Drew had no say in the option but after that is a different story. That's only way any competent GM wouldn't wait until training camp to see if he anywhere close to 100% in health and/or effectiveness. In the end Drew got what he wanted - a huge contract extension without having to play for it.

Find me any article where he threatened with the open market.

This is not like with Monroe where Monroe actually was a free agent and actually could test the market.

If Ozzie really wanted, he could have said, "Okay, play out the season and we'll see how well you come off that foot injury." Considering how well he closed out the season, it's likely the same contract.

How do you even threaten the open market when you aren't even a pending free agent? He got signed in April, well after he would have been signed as a free agent.

Your logic makes no sense. He can't threaten the open market, but he can threaten to ride his contract out, which would still likely result in the same exact end result

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.....and the 2nd game against the Steelers? Two huge PI's that eventually resulted in 14 points. Guess we'll have to wait until next year to see.

The first one against Bryant was complete bogus, but what ever. You can't expect a corner to be penalty free every single game
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I mean, I fully understand and get that the foot injury had a major impact on the season... but...

 

Why exactly do you need to address it? How is this not going to come off to fans as making excuses for poor play?

 

In my mind, you either already knew it was a problem and had a major effect on his performance, or you don't care and don't want to hear excuses.

 

Just not sure which group of people is supposed to feel better about him after acknowledging the injury.

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I don't know why I bother in these parts. I post some statistics done by University of Pennsylvania's School of Orthopedics and people want to ignore it and call this an excuse. It's incredible. Haters gonna hate.

 

 Your efforts are appreciated.

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How do you even threaten the open market when you aren't even a pending free agent? He got signed in April, well after he would have been signed as a free agent. 

 

 You can let it be known that after the contract is up you plan test the market especially with 2016 FA DBs expected to go at a premium. pay now, pay more later, or start over with a different DB.  The options are the same regardless of when they are  laid out. Everything doesn't lend it's to classic absolutes. Just like you don't have to have 51% ownership to control a company you don't have to be at the dawn of free agency signal your intentions at contract's end.. 

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 You can let it be known that after the contract is up you plan test the market especially with 2016 FA DBs expected to go at a premium. pay now, pay more later, or start over with a different DB.  Everything doesn't lend it's to classic absolutes. Just like you don't have to have 51% ownership to control a company you don't have to be at the dawn of free agency signal your intentions at contract's end.. 

But he didn't do that. If he did, then why didn't he follow through with it?

 

Perhaps I'm naive, but if a player or agent told me that they 100% planned on testing FA, I'm not making them any more contract offers until I know what the market is going to be.

 

The fact that Jimmy and his agent signed a deal a full year ahead of FA is sort of an indication that they really had no interest in testing FA whatsoever. They may have said they did (which I see no evidence of them saying this), but their actions would then directly contradict their words.

 

Putting out a few phone calls and leaking false information about your client doesn't qualify as testing FA. 

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The fact that Jimmy and his agent signed a deal a full year ahead of FA is sort of an indication that they really had no interest in testing FA whatsoever. They may have said they did (which I see no evidence of them saying this), but their actions would then directly contradict their words.

 

 

 I don't think they would've have done it if the season was allowed to playout. However back in April Smith was still hobbled and notion of testing the market if things went well is solid leverage to push an early extension for a player with question marks surrounding his future ability. The option last year was smart. Extending Smith fresh out of a walking boot  was not and is a credit to his agent if not a Newsome misstep.    

 

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