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End of the regular season mock draft

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Resignings:

Justin Tucker

Morgan Cox

Shareece Wright

Kamar Aiken

Zach Orr

Ryan Jensen

Jeremey Butler

Terrance West

Kaelin Clay

Daniel Brown

Chris Matthews

 

It should also be noted that I think we cut Pitta and Monroe. Also, Flacco will definitely restructure, but anyway on to the draft.

 

Round 1- Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson

Now before I get negged or something for this being a humongous reach, I think that Alexander is the best cover corner in this draft. Nobody throws to him because he blankets his receiver so well. Good range, good agility, good football IQ sign me up.  In my opinion, Vernon Hargreaves is vastly overrated. He finished his last two games pretty badly and even before that I soured on him. Vernon is good but he isn't great. Ramsey should not be taken here because he isn't really that good of a corner and he isn't so good at safety that I can justify him being selected this high.

 

Round 2- Jason Spriggs OT Indiana

He is an excellent pass blocker and he is a pretty good run blocker. He has a really good agility off the snap, good feet, and good balance. The only real thing he needs to work on is his strength but even then he can come in and be a great LT for us.

 

Round 3- Noah Spense OLB Eastern Kentucky

This dude should have been a late first or at the worst an early second round, but due to personal demons his draft stock plummeted. For those who don't know, Noah Spence was one of the top pass rushers in last years class but he was found to have an eccstacy addiction and was kicked off the Ohio State football team. He transfered to Eastern Kentucky to better himself and his pass rushing skills and his descision has paid off in spades. I think he falls here because of his past.

 

Round 4- Chris Jones DE/DT Mississippi State

A very raw athlete that we can rotate in and out of the line up. I like his versatility and I think he could even be a starter on this DL in a year or two. I think he could become a pretty good 5-tech with Urban as a rotational piece.

 

Round 4- Karl Joseph S West Virginia

He is still my favorite safety in this draft. He is fast, tough, hard hitter, can cover, and has swagger to boot. An injury knocks him down in the draft but his loss is our gain.

 

Round 5- Braxton Miller WR/ATH Ohio State

Okay, so there is a reason why I waited so long to pick a WR and his name is Kamar Aiken. Now I'm not going to lie, I hated him just as much as everyone else did when the season started, but he has really come into his own. And whether we like it or not, Aiken is a really good WR; he has matured with every game that he has played. With Breshad waiting in the wings, SSR coming back, and solid depth, WR doesn't seem as bad of a need as it once was. Anyway on the the prospect, maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't get why people are projecting him to go somewhere in like the third round. Maybe I need to go watch more tape or something but I'm just not seeing it; he had a mere 26 catches for 341 yards and 3 touchdowns The potential is there but he still needs to be coached up

 

Well that is my mock. I was also aiming for something a little different than what is normally put out on these boards. I personally would be very pleased with this draft. What do you guys think?

 

 

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Won't get any negs on Alexander from me, he's my favorite cb by far and when the combine comes I think he flies up the boards

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I really like Alexander. He's a really good CB and he's pretty underrated in the draft community. I think he could rise. I need to see how these CB test athletically. I have Alexander, Apple and Hargreaves very close to each other. I really like the work ethic of Alexander.

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You lost me with the "solid depth" argument. SSS is a great player, but he's old, if he's getting #1 reps again, he'll get hurt again, BP is a workout warrior, who doesn't look that convincing on tape and Kamar matured into a solid WR, but that's it. We don't have much behind those players outside of maybe Camp, who constantly gets hurt.

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You lost me with the "solid depth" argument. SSS is a great player, but he's old, if he's getting #1 reps again, he'll get hurt again, BP is a workout warrior, who doesn't look that convincing on tape and Kamar matured into a solid WR, but that's it. We don't have much behind those players outside of maybe Camp, who constantly gets hurt.

i question if youve ever actually seen his tape... 

 

sure, hes got flaws you can point out, but his tape absolutely should give reason for optimism. he was a magnet on horribly thrown balls for an entire season. dude was good for a catch almost every game on a ball that wouldnt even draw a PI because the refs wouldve called it uncatchable. he shows great body control and adjustment, and a 1-2 step takeoff and even shows some impressive twitch for his size. 

 

i think perriman is going to have some people acting like they never doubted him... "i knew he was good all along!"

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i question if youve ever actually seen his tape... 

 

sure, hes got flaws you can point out, but his tape absolutely should give reason for optimism. he was a magnet on horribly thrown balls for an entire season. dude was good for a catch almost every game on a ball that wouldnt even draw a PI because the refs wouldve called it uncatchable. he shows great body control and adjustment, and a 1-2 step takeoff and even shows some impressive twitch for his size. 

 

i think perriman is going to have some people acting like they never doubted him... "i knew he was good all along!"

 

I doubted Diggs and was glad we didn't draft him and now I gladly admit, that he proved me wrong. We might be in the playoffs, if we'd drafted him.

BP shot up the draft boards after his workout, he was without a doubt a risky draft pick and I don't see how we can rest easy, now that we have this one guy with zero NFL experience, an ageing veteran in his last season and Kamar. That's not depth.

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You lost me with the "solid depth" argument. SSS is a great player, but he's old, if he's getting #1 reps again, he'll get hurt again, BP is a workout warrior, who doesn't look that convincing on tape and Kamar matured into a solid WR, but that's it. We don't have much behind those players outside of maybe Camp, who constantly gets hurt.

I think that Matthews, Camp, Butler, Brown, and Waller are all pretty good depth. They can come in on a few plays here and there. They don't have to be game changers they just have to be decent. SSS's load will definitely be lightened this year. I think he starts off the year as the number 2 WR and then slowly gets regulated to slot as the season moves forward as Breshad steps up (of course I could be just a little optimistic with the BP coming into his own, but I think he is special).

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1)Treadwell 2)SSS 3)Perriman 4) Aiken 5) Camp 6 ) Chris mathews/ Waller/ or butler looks like a pretty strong corps to me. I would be extremely pleased with this group.

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i question if youve ever actually seen his tape... 

 

sure, hes got flaws you can point out, but his tape absolutely should give reason for optimism. he was a magnet on horribly thrown balls for an entire season. dude was good for a catch almost every game on a ball that wouldnt even draw a PI because the refs wouldve called it uncatchable. he shows great body control and adjustment, and a 1-2 step takeoff and even shows some impressive twitch for his size. 

 

i think perriman is going to have some people acting like they never doubted him... "i knew he was good all along!"

What compensation would you look for to acquire him and at what pick range? 

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I doubted Diggs and was glad we didn't draft him and now I gladly admit, that he proved me wrong. We might be in the playoffs, if we'd drafted him.

BP shot up the draft boards after his workout, he was without a doubt a risky draft pick and I don't see how we can rest easy, now that we have this one guy with zero NFL experience, an ageing veteran in his last season and Kamar. That's not depth.

I'm not saying rest easy because I'm not comfortable with our wr group at all, I'm just saying I like perriman natural abilities and I think he can make some noise if he stays healthy, which had never been a problem til now. Also being a smaller school guy he just didn't hit the big radar till His workout, it's understandable, I wouldn't trash the guy because he forced scouts to pay attention with a good workout, he had some good tape as well
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i question if youve ever actually seen his tape... 

 

sure, hes got flaws you can point out, but his tape absolutely should give reason for optimism. he was a magnet on horribly thrown balls for an entire season. dude was good for a catch almost every game on a ball that wouldnt even draw a PI because the refs wouldve called it uncatchable. he shows great body control and adjustment, and a 1-2 step takeoff and even shows some impressive twitch for his size. 

 

i think perriman is going to have some people acting like they never doubted him... "i knew he was good all along!"

I'm glad you said something.  He actually looks pretty darn good on t ape.  Yes, he occasionally rounds off routes, but according to his tape and yes I've watched it, he looks like the real deal. 

 

I'd like to add that he doesn't play small, always high points the ball.  Most of his drops came earlier in the year when he was getting used to a new QB. 

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What compensation would you look for to acquire him and at what pick range?

perriman?.... Well, he was kinda drafted a year ago... So idk how to answer that
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perriman?.... Well, he was kinda drafted a year ago... So idk how to answer that

I was referring to Alexander I quoted the wrong post. What compensation and pick range ?

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I'm not saying rest easy because I'm not comfortable with our wr group at all, I'm just saying I like perriman natural abilities and I think he can make some noise if he stays healthy, which had never been a problem til now. Also being a smaller school guy he just didn't hit the big radar till His workout, it's understandable, I wouldn't trash the guy because he forced scouts to pay attention with a good workout, he had some good tape as well

 

The conversation somehow shifted towards BPs value next season, which we can't really predict since we never saw him play. I, on the other hand, originally responded to things like: "Okay, so there is a reason why I waited so long to pick a WR and his name is Kamar Aiken." or "Aiken is a really good WR; he has matured with every game that he has played. With Breshad waiting in the wings, SSR coming back, and solid depth,".

Personally, I don't feel comfortable with us not taking the WR position seriously once again and being okay with what we got. Our coaches and FO has claimed we have great depth for atleast 2 years and we still have yet to have a legit young playmaker.

Even, IF Perriman turns out to be good, why not get someone else early in the draft? How come the WR position is somehow the only spot on the team, where you can have too many playmakers? I really don't see that much depth at WR on our team, just alot of questionmarks and hopes for next season.

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Noah Spence is not falling that far.

Character concerns + meh tape, he could easily fall lower than the top of the third depending
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Character concerns + meh tape, he could easily fall lower than the top of the third depending

"Meh" tape? You think so? I'm a little surprised. He's done really well. He wasn't on the best team, either; although I wouldn't call Eastern Kentucky a bad team because they have talent.
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"Meh" tape? You think so? I'm a little surprised. He's done really well. He wasn't on the best team, either; although I wouldn't call Eastern Kentucky a bad team because they have talent.

I think he's ok, he hasn't looked like a superstar to me, potential is there, natural strength is there, motor is there but I'm not super impressed with how he uses those natural tools, he needs work and could be darn good down the road. I don't like the small school excuse, I would expect a guyrated so highly from a top tier D1 school to be unstoppable at times but I never saw him take over at Eastern Kentucky.

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I was referring to Alexander I quoted the wrong post. What compensation and pick range ?

id take Alexander from 8 onward assuming Stanley, treadwell, buckner, and the obvious unlikely callers like bosa.
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The conversation somehow shifted towards BPs value next season, which we can't really predict since we never saw him play. I, on the other hand, originally responded to things like: "Okay, so there is a reason why I waited so long to pick a WR and his name is Kamar Aiken." or "Aiken is a really good WR; he has matured with every game that he has played. With Breshad waiting in the wings, SSR coming back, and solid depth,".

Personally, I don't feel comfortable with us not taking the WR position seriously once again and being okay with what we got. Our coaches and FO has claimed we have great depth for atleast 2 years and we still have yet to have a legit young playmaker.

Even, IF Perriman turns out to be good, why not get someone else early in the draft? How come the WR position is somehow the only spot on the team, where you can have too many playmakers? I really don't see that much depth at WR on our team, just alot of questionmarks and hopes for next season.

yeah lol discussions get sidetracked sometimes, I just saw your assessment on perriman and had to respectfully disagree. However I do agree with you when you say wr needs to be addressed more, I think treadwell is the 2nd safest pick in our range after Stanley and after proving that he can Ojai bough in big moments, he may bypass Stanley. I think treadwell is a near lock to be a real Dependable wr
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I haven't seen much of Alexander tbh. How are his ball skills? If they are good sign me up!

he's too good in coverage to even tell. Qbs don't even bother but from what I've seen they seem to be good enough, he plays the wr very hard and doesn't look to the qb much, so that's something he can work on, but he's a workaholic and a film junkie reportedly, I think he's easily the best db inn the class
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he's too good in coverage to even tell. Qbs don't even bother but from what I've seen they seem to be good enough, he plays the wr very hard and doesn't look to the qb much, so that's something he can work on, but he's a workaholic and a film junkie reportedly, I think he's easily the best db inn the class

If he's as good as you say I'd take him before Treadwell.
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Character concerns + meh tape, he could easily fall lower than the top of the third depending

Have you seen his tape? Im kinda doubting it if thats what you came away with Edited by Sizzlebshu
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he's too good in coverage to even tell. Qbs don't even bother but from what I've seen they seem to be good enough, he plays the wr very hard and doesn't look to the qb much, so that's something he can work on, but he's a workaholic and a film junkie reportedly, I think he's easily the best db inn the class

I'm beating a dead horse here so I'll apologize in advance. He sticks with his man most of the time, but those receivers are NFL open if that makes sense. And the throws in the NFL will actually be accurate, since the pass rush will not always be so drastic in the NFL as it consistently is for Clemson. Basically, his tape says he won't get egregiously beat and he will stay disciplined, unlike Ramsey. He isn't the best corner in this draft FOR US imo.

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1)Treadwell 2)SSS 3)Perriman 4) Aiken 5) Camp 6 ) Chris mathews/ Waller/ or butler looks like a pretty strong corps to me. I would be extremely pleased with this group.

camp isn't going to be here next year
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camp isn't going to be here next year

I think he gets one more year. But it could be decided in training camp
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camp isn't going to be here next year

yes he will. We don't have another receiver like him. A small shifty guy who can work the slot and move the chains, and also return punts. I have no doubt he will get another shot- barring another injury in camp.I have also heard him talk about what he's going to do this offseason to train like hell and to prevent injury. Personally I believe him. He had just gotten past the hamstring issues by doing yoga and what not, and this latest injury was just a freak type of thing..in which IR'ing him wasnt even necessary -he could have returned in a few weeks but they needed roster spot Edited by January J
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