sflegend89's Way-Too-Early Mock Draft

[JoeyFlex5]

yeah I can definitely see trestman pushing for him. But I can also see bisciotti on the other side lobbying for a pass rusher

as things stand right now.. What pass rusher could Steve lobby for over treadwell? Steve isn't dumb, if Ozzie thinks ogbah and Floyd are lesser values I think Steve would Pretty easily agree

[JoeyFlex5]

Yeah I agree with everything you said. I just don't have a ton of confidence in Ozzie selecting a WR early given our history. It's is a need pretty much every year yet we rarely address it early. I wouldn't be shocked if we took Treadwell though, but Ive learned not to get my hopes up on receivers.

the success of the wr doesn't hinge on Ozzie, it hinges on the wr. Its Ozzies fault he selected a bust at wr in the past but it's not his fault that the wr busted, if that makes sense. I've just never understood that Argument, if we traded up for Cooper last year he wouldn't have busted Just because Ozzie took him, and treadwell may not be the most electrifying wr ever, but you can't watch his tape and realistically find any reason that he won't be a #1 option for most teams, he's a high volume type of wr who is extremely refined and physical and talented with vice grip hands and tree branch arms and he has an obvious feel for the game.

Very rarely can one say that a wr prospect is a safe pick, you could say it about Cooper, an green, Julio, and treadwell, and after those guys I can't think of a single wr that was unanimously deemed a safe pick

Edited January 5, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[Inqui]

Yeah I agree with everything you said. I just don't have a ton of confidence in Ozzie selecting a WR early given our history. It's is a need pretty much every year yet we rarely address it early. I wouldn't be shocked if we took Treadwell though, but Ive learned not to get my hopes up on receivers.

Time will tell obviously, but I think the reason we haven't taken a WR early is that there hasn't been one who's been the BPA where we've been picking. I've been harping on all season about how this will be the best chance we have in a while to pick an elite LT, but the same is true about WR. That's another position we never get dibs on

 

There's no doubt in my mind that Trestman will be pounding the table for Treadwell, and if the FO is serious about getting an elite WR this is as good a chance as we'll have - but with that said I think we both agree that A'Shawn Robinson or DeForest Buckner would also be unsurprising Ozzie picks so I do understand the apprehension.

[JoeyFlex5]

Time will tell obviously, but I think the reason we haven't taken a WR early is that there hasn't been one who's been the BPA where we've been picking. I've been harping on all season about how this will be the best chance we have in a while to pick an elite LT, but the same is true about WR. That's another position we never get dibs on

There's no doubt in my mind that Trestman will be pounding the table for Treadwell, and if the FO is serious about getting an elite WR this is as good a chance as we'll have - but with that said I think we both agree that A'Shawn Robinson or DeForest Buckner would also be unsurprising Ozzie picks so I do understand the apprehension.

I'm of the belief that the last thing we need is another 5 tech, but I'd love buckner. Not so much Robinson, I'd like some length and athleticism for once rather than another big pudgey Edited January 5, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[Tru11]

the success of the wr doesn't hinge on Ozzie, it hinges on the wr. Its Ozzies fault he selected a bust at wr in the past but it's not his fault that the wr busted, if that makes sense. I've just never understood that Argument, if we traded up for Cooper last year he wouldn't have busted Just because Ozzie took him, and treadwell may not be the most electrifying wr ever, but you can't watch his tape and realistically find any reason that he won't be a #1 option for most teams, he's a high volume type of wr who is extremely refined and physical and talented with vice grip hands and tree branch arms and he has an obvious feel for the game.

Very rarely can one say that a wr prospect is a safe pick, you could say it about Cooper, an green, Julio, and treadwell, and after those guys I can't think of a single wr that was unanimously deemed a safe pick

 

Calvin Johnson?

[JoeyFlex5]

Calvin Johnson?

was he considered safe? I didn't follow the draft way back then and idk if the views on GT receivers have changed but I know GT offensive players in general are considered risky for the NFL. But sure I'll give you that one lol

[Tru11]

was he considered safe? I didn't follow the draft way back then and idk if the views on GT receivers have changed but I know GT offensive players in general are considered risky for the NFL. But sure I'll give you that one lol

 

he should have gone #1 instead of  #2 TBH.

 

only al davis fell in love with russels measurements like everyone else at the time lol.

 

was an insane good draft class though with peterson revis  joe thomas, willis and lynch among others going in round 1 but still megatron should have been the #1 pick.

 

6`5 WR with those combine numbers dont grow on trees whahhahah

[JoeyFlex5]

he should have gone #1 instead of #2 TBH.

only al davis fell in love with russels measurements like everyone else at the time lol.

was an insane good draft class though with peterson revis joe thomas, willis and lynch among others going in round 1 but still megatron should have been the #1 pick.

6`5 WR with those combine numbers dont grow on trees whahhahah

I don't know the finer point of his combine numbers but I do know 6'5" speedsters bust every year. But ur right, if he showed a 4th of the refinement he has now in college, then yeah he would be a safe pick lol. Its hard for someone with that much talent to not produce. I'm more referring to general refinement though, most of the guys I named except for maybe Julio were incredibly refined with the measurable to go with it. I think treadwell could post the best career numbers of any wr I listed if he plays for the right team, for instance if he played for NE I think he blows every record out of the water, but this is obviously all moot speculation on my part.. Edited January 5, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[Tru11]

I don't know the finer point of his combine numbers but I do know 6'5" speedsters bust every year. But ur right, if he showed a 4th of the refinement he has now in college, then yeah he would be a safe pick lol. Its hard for someone with that much talent to not produce. I'm more referring to general refinement though, most of the guys I named except for maybe Julio were incredibly refined with the measurable to go with it. I think treadwell could post the best career numbers of any wr I listed if he plays for the right team, for instance if he played for NE I think he blows every record out of the water, but this is obviously all moot speculation on my part..

 

anything is possible at this point.

 

if he runs a 4.4 or faster he will be a top 10 guy.

 

he runs a 4.6 or slower its gonna be hard to justify picking him so high though.

[Cillmatic]

anything is possible at this point.

if he runs a 4.4 or faster he will be a top 10 guy.

he runs a 4.6 or slower its gonna be hard to justify picking him so high though.

He's in the mid 4.5 range.

[JoeyFlex5]

He's in the mid 4.5 range.

i personally think the concerns over his speed are blown way out of proportion. hes not the fastest guy but he plays fast, hes got quick take-off, enough speed to make cb's turn their hips, and when he makes his cut after the catch and finds his lane he surprises some db's when they cant close in on him. 

 

the most important thing about treadwell is, he has very functional game speed, so if he looks like hes playing at a 4.5 range(which is what i would call it) then i think he ends up running in the mid 4.4s, no wr plays as fast as their 40 time but you can tell who is natural enough of a player to make the difference minimal. thats the difference between an amari cooper and a breshad perriman, one runs a 4.4 the other runs a 4.2, but who plays faster? 

 

im calling it now, treadwell runs an official 4.44 and everyone pounds the table for him because he ran a better 40 time than anticipated, then his value will finally be where it should be. hopefully ozzie would see it the same way

[Robbyrobbass]

If we take Treadwell let me stop I know its not going to happen every year I want a top wr we never go there