The Good, The Bad and The Ugly vent thread week 17 Bengals!

[Grapple Raven]

In the presser this week when Mallet was asked by Luke Jones:

 

On how the Bengals have statistically given QB Joe Flacco trouble in the past: Mallett replied: “Well, my name is not Joe."

 

That comment didn't sit to well with me. I thought to myself at the time, well he is a tad bit full of himself.  Cockiness can only take ya so far. lol 

 

Mallett meet humble!

[Cillmatic]

In the presser this week when Mallet was asked by Luke Jones:

On how the Bengals have statistically given QB Joe Flacco trouble in the past: Mallett replied: “Well, my name is not Joe."

That comment didn't sit to well with me. I thought to myself at the time, well he is a tad bit full of himself. Cockiness can only take ya so far. lol

Mallett meet humble!

What did he say wrong?! The way you're framing it the reporter asked him about why Joe sucks against the Bengals, HOW SHOULD MALLETT KNOW? Lol. I swear people just take the immaturity line and run with it. Edited January 3, 2016 by Cillmatic

[Tank 92]

Call me crazy, but Aiken reminded me of Q today in the way he ran after the catch.  And no, I wasn't drinking or smoking!   lol  

[Tank 92]

What did he say wrong?! The way you're framing it the reporter asked him about why Joe sucks against the Bengals, HOW SHOULD MALLETT KNOW? Lol. I swear people just take the immaturity line and run with it.

 

Given the one comment out of context I could see your point. But he has a lot of history,and frankly today he just showed there hasn't been much improvement.  But eh, he's our backup and not likely to again see the field in a regular season game for the Ravens.

[Cillmatic]

Given the one comment out of context I could see your point. But he has a lot of history,and frankly today he just showed there hasn't been much improvement. But eh, he's our backup and not likely to again see the field in a regular season game for the Ravens.

History doesn't equal now. What did he say wrong? If he didn't have a history you wouldn't even bat an eye to it so why is it a problem now? If it's no problem in one case it's no problem in al cases.

[The Raven]

What did he say wrong?! The way you're framing it the reporter asked him about why Joe sucks against the Bengals, HOW SHOULD MALLETT KNOW? Lol. I swear people just take the immaturity line and run with it.

 

It's an opportunity for Mallett talk about the challenges the Bengals present and how he's preparing for them, taking Joe's struggles into account. It's really not a difficult question to answer... What he could have said is, "Well, they've had a pretty fierce pass rush for a number of years, and that's going to cause problems for us. They're extremely well-coached by Marvin Lewis, and they don't make a lot of mistakes on the back end. That pass rush with their zone coverage is tough to beat." It's really not a tough question.

 

Saying "My name isn't Joe" doesn't even answer the question, anyway, so...

Edited January 3, 2016 by The Raven

[Cillmatic]

It's an opportunity for Mallett talk about the challenges the Bengals present and how he's preparing for them, taking Joe's struggles into account. It's really not a difficult question to answer... What he could have said is, "Well, they've had a pretty fierce pass rush for a number of years, and that's going to cause problems for us. They're extremely well-coached by Marvin Lewis, and they don't make a lot of mistakes on the back end. That pass rush with their zone coverage is tough to beat." It's really not a tough question.

Saying "My name isn't Joe" doesn't even answer the question, anyway, so...

The question was about Joe according to the original post. Mallett's been here for like two weeks. How would Mallett possibly know why Joe chokes against the Bengals? If you want to ask him about his struggles ask him abou him not some other NFL player sucking.

[The Raven]

The question was about Joe according to the original post. Mallett's been here for like two weeks. How would Mallett possibly know why Joe chokes against the Bengals? If you want to ask him about his struggles ask him abou him not some other NFL player sucking.

 

"I can't really speak for why Joe struggles, but I know the Bengals do a lot of things, defensively, that make life difficult for quarterbacks. They have a good pass rush, and they have an aggressive zone scheme with speed all over."

 

This is not rocket science.

 

Also, he could comment on how watching film of Joe vs the Bengals has shown him anything. So, yeah. It's simple. Literally anything would be better than "My name isn't Joe."

Edited January 4, 2016 by The Raven

[RavensFanMania]

I'm still pleased about it. We dropped roughly two spots and are still in the Top 10. Perhaps I'd feel differently if we were to fall out of the Top 3 or something of the sort, but I'd personally gladly give up a few spots for a victory over arguably our most hated rival.

Completing a season sweep made that win worth it.  We dropped from 4-8 and it was still sweet in my eyes.  Today we have picked up atleast one spot and I have no doubt we will end up with a very good to elite player in the first round and hopefully kill the rest of the draft. 

[HoldingCall]

He looked about the same this week as last week, except the Ravens lost and he turned it over.

I think he was more effective last week against a weaker secondary. As for his future, we will see whether he improves. It would be nice if the team knows they don't need to be concerned with finding a quality backup QB.

[Cillmatic]

"I can't really speak for why Joe struggles, but I know the Bengals do a lot of things, defensively, that make life difficult for quarterbacks. They have a good pass rush, and they have an aggressive zone scheme with speed all over."

This is not rocket science.

Also, he could comment on how watching film of Joe vs the Bengals has shown him anything. So, yeah. It's simple. Literally anything would be better than "My name isn't Joe."

"I can't really speak for why Joe struggles"= "My name isn't Joe". Honestly people are making a big deal out of nothing. Could be out of the boredom of the offseason.

[Grapple Raven]

What did he say wrong?! The way you're framing it the reporter asked him about why Joe sucks against the Bengals, HOW SHOULD MALLETT KNOW? Lol. I swear people just take the immaturity line and run with it.

 

 

Luke Jones was simply making a point in his question to Mallett which was:  "Ryan, watching the tape, this Bengals defense is pretty talented and statistically has given Joe Flacco more problems than any other team. Your thoughts on the challenge, facing them?". 

 

Mallett could have ignored the part where Jones makes a true statement in that statistically it has given Joe Flacco more problems than any other defense and could have just answered the inquiry: "Your thought on the challenge facing them?" But instead he let his immaturity show with that comment.  It wasn't necessary.  

 

He could have just answered using the remainder of his response to which he agreed with Jones statement: "They are statistically a very good defense. They have a lot of athletes all over the secondary, defensive line, linebackers, so we’re going to have to play well. They come downhill. They hit you. They cover. We have to be technique-sound and do our jobs.” 

 

That would have been enough, but his brashness and cockiness got the best of him.  As Tank92 alluded to, if this comment is taken in context with his history it doesn't bode well for an attitude change in Mallett, especially viewing his reactions during the game today as well. 

 

 

You can have your opinion, but in my opinion "Well my name isn't Joe" was disrespectful to this teams franchise quarterback, and to this organization that gave him a second chance to clean up his act. His response wasn't necessary and quite frankly I don't think I can ever remember a player, a backup QB nonetheless taking a shot at a teammate, the franchise QB, in a presser before.

 

As for taking the immaturity line and running with it...yeah I say Mallett did take it our for a run. lol  We will just have to respectfully disagree on this point.

 

P.S.  Mallett did say in an earlier presser that he had briefly met Flacco btw.

[OUravensfan]

I only want to mention two things...

Firstly, the pass defense was excellent for much of the day to contain AJ Green outside his touchdown reception. Dean Pees and the players should get a lot of credit for stepping up their coverage and pass rush.

Secondly, Ryan Mallett is exactly who I thought he was from the prior week. I said last week that he was erratic and had a grossly excessive amount of underthrows, even when he was completing the pass. People argued with me and said he was so good and so poised simply because he won.

Fact of the matter is that the Steelers RARELY blitzed him and forced him to make throws. He definitely made some good ones, but he also was, again, very erratic. This week, the Bengals decided to make the newcomer uncomfortable and blitzed him a lot. HIs composure completely was lost and he looked like a child with some of his antics. He was receiving more than enough time for most of his throws, but he was so rattled by the few hits he received that almost every blitz led to a hurried decision and an underthrow. I was very wary of this happening this week but this pretty much confirms it for me.

I fail to understand how a quarterback with so much pure arm strength will have so many underthrows. It's shocking to see how bad he can be.

After going from Schaub to Clausen to Mallett, I hope fans see how much worse off the Ravens are without Flacco.

So true, been trying to drill this home and I was confident the bengals were not going to approach Mallet the same way Pittsburgh did, they blitzed him and rattled him and it was easy. He is so inaccurate even with the short stuff, that WR screen was on him. No excuse for that low pass, you knew the blitz was coming and if that was the pass you were gonna make then you should know you'll be able to get it off in time and the pressure shouldn't change anything about your throw.

[GrimCoconut]

Mallett had character red flags coming out of Arkansas and he learned behind Brady, a somewhat arrogant yet (arguably) rightly so QB who earned his confidence. Can you really be surprised if he acts this way?

[Cillmatic]

Luke Jones was simply making a point in his question to Mallett which was: "Ryan, watching the tape, this Bengals defense is pretty talented and statistically has given Joe Flacco more problems than any other team. Your thoughts on the challenge, facing them?".

Mallett could have ignored the part where Jones makes a true statement in that statistically it has given Joe Flacco more problems than any other defense and could have just answered the inquiry: "Your thought on the challenge facing them?" But instead he let his immaturity show with that comment. It wasn't necessary.

He could have just answered using the remainder of his response to which he agreed with Jones statement: "They are statistically a very good defense. They have a lot of athletes all over the secondary, defensive line, linebackers, so we’re going to have to play well. They come downhill. They hit you. They cover. We have to be technique-sound and do our jobs.”

That would have been enough, but his brashness and cockiness got the best of him. As Tank92 alluded to, if this comment is taken in context with his history it doesn't bode well for an attitude change in Mallett, especially viewing his reactions during the game today as well.

You can have your opinion, but in my opinion "Well my name isn't Joe" was disrespectful to this teams franchise quarterback, and to this organization that gave him a second chance to clean up his act. His response wasn't necessary and quite frankly I don't think I can ever remember a player, a backup QB nonetheless taking a shot at a teammate, the franchise QB, in a presser before.

As for taking the immaturity line and running with it...yeah I say Mallett did take it our for a run. lol We will just have to respectfully disagree on this point.

P.S. Mallett did say in an earlier presser that he had briefly met Flacco btw.

So Mallett should be cut he's a bad guy, bad for team, he doesn't respect Flacco. If what you say is correct he should be cut right? Edited January 4, 2016 by Cillmatic

[Grapple Raven]

So Mallett should be cut he's a bad guy, bad for team, he doesn't respect Flacco. If what you say is correct he should be cut right?

 

Oh stop being so dramatic, lol.   Your making assumptions, where did I indicate he should be cut?  I never said that.  But he probably could use an attitude adjustment!

[StingerNLG]

In the presser this week when Mallet was asked by Luke Jones:

 

On how the Bengals have statistically given QB Joe Flacco trouble in the past: Mallett replied: “Well, my name is not Joe."

 

That comment didn't sit to well with me. I thought to myself at the time, well he is a tad bit full of himself.  Cockiness can only take ya so far. lol 

 

Mallett meet humble!

 

I didn't take that the way you did.   I took that as Mallet saying he couldn't speak for Joe.  

[Cillmatic]

I didn't take that the way you did. I took that as Mallet saying he couldn't speak for Joe.

Same.

[balfan23]

The Good: When the player of the game is your punter ... that's not a good thing ... but sadly, he'd the good this week.

The Bad: Playing well in general, but then having some lapse that just negates all that was good. The short yardage run that went 40 yards and Hills unnecessary bail-out PI come to mind as examples. 

The Ugly: Losing to the Bengals for the 4th straight time. This is now officially a trend. 

[Moderator 3]

The Good: When the player of the game is your punter ... that's not a good thing ... but sadly, he'd the good this week.

The Bad: Playing well in general, but then having some lapse that just negates all that was good. The short yardage run that went 40 yards and Hills unnecessary bail-out PI come to mind as examples. 

The Ugly: Losing to the Bengals for the 4th straight time. This is now officially a trend.

Even worse, I think this was the 5th straight time.

[OUravensfan]

The Steve Smith call........

[Steve0x]

They're do better next season

[Tank 92]

The Steve Smith call........

 

Now that's a delayed reaction.   lol

[OUravensfan]

Now that's a delayed reaction.   lol

Being there today and watching them lose reminded me of being there last year and watching them lose. That play still makes me mad, it took away a great play from a good rivalry. 

[Dr. Kelley]

Pretty sad how far our team has fallen.

Enough said.

Ima eat some cheese fries

[Dr. Kelley]

Also:

Lolz we can't beat the brngals to save our lives.

kinda funny how since pees been here we can't beat em? JUS SAYIN

[OUravensfan]

Also:

Lolz we can't beat the brngals to save our lives.

kinda funny how since pees been here we can't beat em? JUS SAYIN

I agree he definetely has problems shutting down their offense, it's not so much that he gets torched, but that he fails time and time again at stopping them during crucial moments in the game. And some of the matchup decisions on Green in big moments have been brutal and we've paid the price.

[Tru11]

Also:

Lolz we can't beat the brngals to save our lives.

kinda funny how since pees been here we can't beat em? JUS SAYIN

 

kinda funny how you say stuff like this but apparently are clueless to how long pees has been here....

[Dr. Kelley]

kinda funny how you say stuff like this but apparently are clueless to how long pees has been here....

Do you even watch the games? Aside from the opening game a few years ago, the bengals have given us fits the last several years.

But, what do I know, right? I only watch the games, see the scores and the outcome

[ravensdfan]

Do you even watch the games? Aside from the opening game a few years ago, the bengals have given us fits the last several years.

But, what do I know, right? I only watch the games, see the scores and the outcome

We beat them opener of 2012 (can't really count that last game in 2012) and once in 2013. They have beaten us 5 times in a row now.

 

So if we throw out that last game in 2012 since we rested our starters - Pees has beaten them 28% of the time.

 

We swept them in 2008, got swept in 2009, split in 2010 and swept them in 2011. So before Pees we had a 62% success rate against them.

 

I mean that is the basics, other things play into that as well.

Edited January 4, 2016 by ravensdfan