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[ravensdan]

9 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

I believe so. In one of the more recent Mailbag episodes, either Mink or Downing said that Lewis could be a stud at LG because of how well he's doing in OTAs. Stanley-Lewis-Zuttah-Yanda-Wagner could be a great line for Flacco. Not sure where Monroe fits in though. Maybe a trade or just keep him as depth. I feel like his time here is just about up. I get the feeling that Harbaugh is getting wary of his demeanor. 

 

Quick edit, but wouldn't it be awesome if we drafted two starting offensive linemen in the same draft and they both turn out to be studs on the left side? I feel like we haven't done that before with two rookies. 

I highly doubt Lewis will be starting at LG over Stanley(if Monroe LT) Jensen and Urschel?hed have to blow those guys away. 

[Jacquouille]

18 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

I highly doubt Lewis will be starting at LG over Stanley(if Monroe LT) Jensen and Urschel?hed have to blow those guys away. 

Probably not right away but he has the strength and the length, and the overall physical tools to become not just a starter, but à potential Pro Bowl caliber OG and a perfect replacement for KO. Not a mauler like KO, but he has probably better feet due to his dancer experience 

[harfordravenfan]

58 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Probably not right away but he has the strength and the length, and the overall physical tools to become not just a starter, but à potential Pro Bowl caliber OG and a perfect replacement for KO. Not a mauler like KO, but he has probably better feet due to his dancer experience 

Possibly but I'm still rooting for Jenson to hold down the guard spot. How many years is Ricky Wagner got left? Although easier finding right tackles... I'd rather not rely on a rookie if Wagner leaves

[Deflated Football]

2 hours ago, ravensdan said:

I highly doubt Lewis will be starting at LG over Stanley(if Monroe LT) Jensen and Urschel?hed have to blow those guys away. 

True. Both of those guys are solid. Should be a fun training camp. 

[Deflated Football]

45 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Possibly but I'm still rooting for Jenson to hold down the guard spot. How many years is Ricky Wagner got left? Although easier finding right tackles... I'd rather not rely on a rookie if Wagner leaves

I think this is Wagner's final year. 

[OldToby]

We don't talk about Jensen enough, PFF had him rated as the best offensive player in week 16 with a 7.4.(The second highest lineman had 5.2).  PFF had this to say,

"Jensen has gone from a liability to a stud by posting two stunning efforts in the past couple of weeks, with his showing against the Steelers truly remarkable."

Original article here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-16/

 

 

[Jacquouille]

15 minutes ago, OldToby said:

We don't talk about Jensen enough, PFF had him rated as the best offensive player in week 16 with a 7.4.(The second highest lineman had 5.2).  PFF had this to say,

"Jensen has gone from a liability to a stud by posting two stunning efforts in the past couple of weeks, with his showing against the Steelers truly remarkable."

Original article here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-16/

 

 

True, I've never had any problem with Jensen taking over the LG spot (although I did forget that article). I spoke favorably for several player but I think Jensen is my early favourite.

[Deflated Football]

22 minutes ago, OldToby said:

We don't talk about Jensen enough, PFF had him rated as the best offensive player in week 16 with a 7.4.(The second highest lineman had 5.2).  PFF had this to say,

"Jensen has gone from a liability to a stud by posting two stunning efforts in the past couple of weeks, with his showing against the Steelers truly remarkable."

Original article here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-16/

 

 

That's pretty impressive, not going to lie. 

[Davesta]

46 minutes ago, OldToby said:

We don't talk about Jensen enough, PFF had him rated as the best offensive player in week 16 with a 7.4.(The second highest lineman had 5.2).  PFF had this to say,

"Jensen has gone from a liability to a stud by posting two stunning efforts in the past couple of weeks, with his showing against the Steelers truly remarkable."

Original article here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-16/

 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Jensen a FA coming into this new season? Did we resign him? Or does he have 1 more year left

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

I think this is Wagner's final year. 

Alex Lewis was drafted with precisely that in mind imho. I think he shares a lot of similar attributes with Wagner and will potentially be worked this year as Wagner's back up at RT. At least that is my thought process. I really don't believe we can afford to pay Wagner big money considering everything else that is coming up like Williams, etc.

[elemento]

8 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Jensen a FA coming into this new season? Did we resign him? Or does he have 1 more year left

This is his last season under contract. He will be a FA next season. 

Jensen is underrated. He is a mauler. I think he wins the LG battle this season. 

 

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, elemento said:

This is his last season under contract. He will be a FA next season. 

Jensen is underrated. He is a mauler. I think he wins the LG battle this season. 

 

He'll be a restricted FA, though.

[elemento]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

He'll be a restricted FA, though.

Yeah and I think the Ravens will keep him. It took him a while to figure things out, but he turned out fine. Funny thing is that when you look back at the 2013 draft, he was easily the least talked BAL player of that draft. 

[Winchester]

9 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Possibly but I'm still rooting for Jenson to hold down the guard spot. How many years is Ricky Wagner got left? Although easier finding right tackles... I'd rather not rely on a rookie if Wagner leaves

Wagner is in a contract year. Jensen in my opinion is the best left guard. He very strong and a mauler. And he is far more athletic that given credit for. He could actually play left tackle in the event of an injury. Ron Stanley is not not an ideal guard or interior player

[Deflated Football]

Who was the one that rolled into Flacco and shredded his knee? It wasn't Jensen was it? 

[rossihunter2]

13 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Who was the one that rolled into Flacco and shredded his knee? It wasn't Jensen was it? 

Hurst, not Jensen. And even then he accidentally fell after the whistle.

[Winchester]

Jensen is going to be a very good guard and Urschel a very good strong athletic center. Ravens oline is still going to be very dominant on the interior. If Ron Stanley/Monroe is up to the task the oline is going to be quite very dominant again.

[elemento]

14 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Who was the one that rolled into Flacco and shredded his knee? It wasn't Jensen was it? 

It was Hurst

[Deflated Football]

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

Hurst, not Jensen. And even then he accidentally fell after the whistle.

Ahh, Hurst. I thought he got pancaked but thank you for the clarification. 

[Deflated Football]

1 minute ago, elemento said:

It was Hurst

Thanks. 

[harfordravenfan]

16 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Jensen is going to be a very good guard and Urschel a very good strong athletic center. Ravens oline is still going to be very dominant on the interior. If Ron Stanley/Monroe is up to the task the oline is going to be quite very dominant again.

Completely agree with ya, I love that mean streak Jenson plays with and urschel got much better after those couple snap issues

[K-Dog]

We aren't really going to make Joe's knee all about Hurst are we ?

[Winchester]

12 hours ago, OldToby said:

We don't talk about Jensen enough, PFF had him rated as the best offensive player in week 16 with a 7.4.(The second highest lineman had 5.2).  PFF had this to say,

"Jensen has gone from a liability to a stud by posting two stunning efforts in the past couple of weeks, with his showing against the Steelers truly remarkable."

Original article here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-players-at-every-position-from-week-16/

 

 

He was more impressive than Yanda a couple games i watched. Picked him to get all pro consideration and said he will out perform Zeitler. Jensen is awesome!! If left tackle is not a liability and Ron Stanley plays well Then ravens oline will be a strength and one of the best. Jensen,Urschel and Yanda could be the best trio in the nfl!! If Ron Stanley's strength is not a liability then ravens will not miss KO. That is reason I'm rooting for young receivers to break out. It would be totally cool for Chris Moore to break out and Campanaro and Perriman to play injury free!! then With Dixon and Buck the ravens offense could explode out of nowhere to be an elite offense and juggernaut!! Need young talented WRs to break out and Ron Stanley to perform while tacking on muscle. I'm confident the interior oline of Jensen Yanda and Urschel to be dominant as well as Wagner. A potential offensive juggernaut needs a left tackle and young receivers to break out. Dixon and Buck Allen have exciting potential.

[DomMcRaven]

11 hours ago, Winchester said:

He was more impressive than Yanda a couple games i watched. Picked him to get all pro consideration and said he will out perform Zeitler. Jensen is awesome!! If left tackle is not a liability and Ron Stanley plays well Then ravens oline will be a strength and one of the best. Jensen,Urschel and Yanda could be the best trio in the nfl!! If Ron Stanley's strength is not a liability then ravens will not miss KO. That is reason I'm rooting for young receivers to break out. It would be totally cool for Chris Moore to break out and Campanaro and Perriman to play injury free!! then With Dixon and Buck the ravens offense could explode out of nowhere to be an elite offense and juggernaut!! Need young talented WRs to break out and Ron Stanley to perform while tacking on muscle. I'm confident the interior oline of Jensen Yanda and Urschel to be dominant as well as Wagner. A potential offensive juggernaut needs a left tackle and young receivers to break out. Dixon and Buck Allen have exciting potential.

I agree about Jensen. Was impressed with him in the last few games. 

 

But please, and this goes for everyone, don't get me too hyped about this season lol. Around this time last offseason, I was feeling that way and we know what happened after the season. 

[Winchester]

14 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

I agree about Jensen. Was impressed with him in the last few games. 

 

But please, and this goes for everyone, don't get me too hyped about this season lol. Around this time last offseason, I was feeling that way and we know what happened after the season. 

I was a little skeptical last summer. Waiting on undrafted WRs to step up and a rookie. And on defense the edge rushers and ilb were getting old. Ngata was traded and max out of shape. This year there is awesome potential on offense and defense. There's Wallace and one of the most explosive and underrated receivers in the draft. Perriman knows the playbook. Young athletic talent on defense. Max is in better shape Dixon has impressive skills.

[Jacquouille]

For now, all we can say is we have exceptionnal potential, but remember it's still potential. 

That said, based on the recent news from OTA's, the team seems to have progressed overall, and if it all comes together like it naturally should, there's a pretty good chance we take the league by storm.

[Passepartout]

Just if that Flacco can remain healthy for 2016, he is the face of the team.

[trevorsteadman]

15 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

For now, all we can say is we have exceptionnal potential, but remember it's still potential. 

That said, based on the recent news from OTA's, the team seems to have progressed overall, and if it all comes together like it naturally should, there's a pretty good chance we take the league by storm.

Agreed potential is potential. Which is why I hate how most NFL teams draft off of potential and that is what screws up so many franchises. I think that is a reason why the Ravens were fortunate enough to draft Dixon, Reynolds, Judon, and Ochi (undrafted). Teams would rather draft guys that have good 40 times from big schools with barely any production. We went the opposite route as everyone else this draft and I think at least 2 of those 4 work out for us to be in our long term plans. But again we don't know what will happen. Every year we go into the year with everyone spying that 10-6 or 11-5 season and two of the last three have gone .500 or less. But I do think this is the most excited I have been for this team since 2011 (the year before the super bowl when we went 12-4 when I think we were a better team than even 2012, you can thank Evans and Cundiff for that). 

 

I think a lot of the Ravens front organization's moves were under-the-radar this year which is good. I think especially in free agency for us to get Weddle, Wallace, Watson, and a guy with a high ceiling low risk of Trent Richardson for minimum salary escentially.. Add in bringing in Leslie Frazier who I think is the best replacement for the position since we lost Teryl Austin (underrated loss a couple years back). I think the Ravens finally have the depth at several positions to keep on pace for the playoffs. But we do need young people to contribute at a high level, because we are counting on a lot of 30+ veterans who may not be here next year to stay healthy and produce. I really am excited for this group.

[Jacquouille]

13 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Agreed potential is potential. Which is why I hate how most NFL teams draft off of potential and that is what screws up so many franchises. I think that is a reason why the Ravens were fortunate enough to draft Dixon, Reynolds, Judon, and Ochi (undrafted). Teams would rather draft guys that have good 40 times from big schools with barely any production. We went the opposite route as everyone else this draft and I think at least 2 of those 4 work out for us to be in our long term plans. But again we don't know what will happen. Every year we go into the year with everyone spying that 10-6 or 11-5 season and two of the last three have gone .500 or less. But I do think this is the most excited I have been for this team since 2011 (the year before the super bowl when we went 12-4 when I think we were a better team than even 2012, you can thank Evans and Cundiff for that). 

 

I think a lot of the Ravens front organization's moves were under-the-radar this year which is good. I think especially in free agency for us to get Weddle, Wallace, Watson, and a guy with a high ceiling low risk of Trent Richardson for minimum salary escentially.. Add in bringing in Leslie Frazier who I think is the best replacement for the position since we lost Teryl Austin (underrated loss a couple years back). I think the Ravens finally have the depth at several positions to keep on pace for the playoffs. But we do need young people to contribute at a high level, because we are counting on a lot of 30+ veterans who may not be here next year to stay healthy and produce. I really am excited for this group.

That is true. My point, however, was that we have a lot of young guys who have yet to reach their potential we've been talking all along. Just imagine, if B-Will and Jernigan become 7+ sacks guys, Gilmore and Maxx put up a combined 1000yds/10TD season, our O-Line keeps on progressing, Perriman goes for 800yds/7TDs (based on Torrey's rookie season), Mosley becomes the All Pro we all know he can become, if Shareece keeps shutting down WR2 like Benjamin and Bryant last year, and Jimmy and Weddle lead our secondary that Frazier organizes...

And honestly all I've written is fairly realistic. What kind of team are we going to be if we're injury free? Sky's the limit. Again, that's potential. Not unrealistic though.

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, Jacquouille said:

That is true. My point, however, was that we have a lot of young guys who have yet to reach their potential we've been talking all along. Just imagine, if B-Will and Jernigan become 7+ sacks guys, Gilmore and Maxx put up a combined 1000yds/10TD season, our O-Line keeps on progressing, Perriman goes for 800yds/7TDs (based on Torrey's rookie season), Mosley becomes the All Pro we all know he can become, if Shareece keeps shutting down WR2 like Benjamin and Bryant last year, and Jimmy and Weddle lead our secondary that Frazier organizes...

And honestly all I've written is fairly realistic. What kind of team are we going to be if we're injury free? Sky's the limit. Again, that's potential. Not unrealistic though.

Yeah and last season we were counting on Suggs to be a 12 sack guy and we lost him week one. I understand between injuries, wrong utilization of certain players, and others not being in shape or knowing the playbook... And millions of other reasons... Are why players do not hit their potential.