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I never cared much for Derrick Mason. Lot of garbage production. Never did anything when it really counted. Boldins clutch production in the playoffs stands out so far.

Okay. Mason was a great receiver for us! Maybe you should watch the Lions game when he got speared into another player and still made it in for the touchdown before collapsing or his playoff game against the Titans in the 08 season when he caught a TD with one functioning arm and shoulder. Let's not forget about Boldins wide open drop that would've tied up the game in the 11 season divisional round against Pit

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Some people's children...I guess he wasn't around for Boldin's 2010 "clutch" performance @ PIT

Why Fly? Why ya gotta bring up that game? I know many have mentioned this before, but the let downs by receivers for this team over the years, ugh! Boldin, TJ, Evans, even Torrey with the pathetic attempt to grab a ball that shouldn't have been thrown...

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Some people's children...I guess he wasn't around for Boldin's 2010 "clutch" performance @ PIT

If it were not for Boldins many clutch plays the ravens would not have that trophy. As opposed to Derrick Mason never got open in big games to drop anything.

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Okay. Mason was a great receiver for us! Maybe you should watch the Lions game when he got speared into another player and still made it in for the touchdown before collapsing or his playoff game against the Titans in the 08 season when he caught a TD with one functioning arm and shoulder. Let's not forget about Boldins wide open drop that would've tied up the game in the 11 season divisional round against Pit

Lions game he was smashed between 2 players and it actually kept him on his feet. He was gritty but slow and struggled getting open. Which is why he often was shut down and picked up a lot of garbage production. Any receiver that starts long enough will have some nice plays. Mason was shutdown far to often. Mason as a so called #1 held the ravens offense back. As a #3 he would of been good. As a #1 he was a joke.

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If it were not for Boldins many clutch plays the ravens would not have that trophy. As opposed to Derrick Mason never got open in big games to drop anything.

You know not what you are talking about. I am amazed about how you feel about Mason. I'm not sure you'd find another person that has this perception of Mason.

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I was worried about the reputation. He did beat down a teammate.

 

Those were different times, obviously, and Steve has done nothing like that here. Love the stories you hear about him on the field, in the locker room, and in the community. He's hilarious, too.

He'd still do it...

 

Was always a fan and happy to have him here.  Would've loved to see him an Q play together for a season.  I know he rubbed off on players because even Torrey was playing with an edge against the Pats last year.

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Some people's children...I guess he wasn't around for Boldin's 2010 "clutch" performance @ PIT

 

The whole offense sucked that game and that loss is on them.  I think the 3rd quarter went something like fumble, fumble, punt and a pick.

Why Fly? Why ya gotta bring up that game? I know many have mentioned this before, but the let downs by receivers for this team over the years, ugh! Boldin, TJ, Evans, even Torrey with the pathetic attempt to grab a ball that shouldn't have been thrown...

 

Torrey was drafted the year after, but all of those guys played bad.  That was also a tough catch for a td that everyone likes to give Boldin trouble for.

If it were not for Boldins many clutch plays the ravens would not have that trophy. As opposed to Derrick Mason never got open in big games to drop anything.

True about the catches, but Mason was a BEAST.  I'll always remember that play he made in the Titans divisional game.  Mason was a trooper and played with a bum shoulder the end of the 08 season and still performed at a high level.  I don't remember him being shut down too often either and he was our only real threat out wide.

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The whole offense sucked that game and that loss is on them. I think the 3rd quarter went something like fumble, fumble, punt and a pick.

Torrey was drafted the year after, but all of those guys played bad. That was also a tough catch for a td that everyone likes to give Boldin trouble for.

True about the catches, but Mason was a BEAST. I'll always remember that play he made in the Titans divisional game. Mason was a trooper and played with a bum shoulder the end of the 08 season and still performed at a high level. I don't remember him being shut down too often either and he was our only real threat out wide.

I was referring to over the years, TJ and Boldin in 2010, Evans in 2011 and of course Torrey last year. The Boldin ball was perfectly placed for the coverage and route. Needed to be caught. Just watched it again.

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Even if he returns and puts up similar numbers to last season it would not hurt to invest heavily in another WR via the draft. We have to look towards the future and Steve Smith will only be coming back for one year. It would also help depth wise, we lost Perriman and Smith Sr., you never know who you might lose. 

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... the game where Mase made play after play after play WITH ONE ARM !!!!

I have a hunch someone may have been too young when Mase had his heyday here.

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I was referring to over the years, TJ and Boldin in 2010, Evans in 2011 and of course Torrey last year. The Boldin ball was perfectly placed for the coverage and route. Needed to be caught. Just watched it again.

ugh. it is insane to think how close we were to 4 SB appearances in a 5 year span (2010 - 2014)

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If it were not for Boldins many clutch plays the ravens would not have that trophy. As opposed to Derrick Mason never got open in big games to drop anything.

I'm absolutely positive that you are confusing the two. Until SSS arrived, Mase was by far the best WR this franchise ever had.

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The whole offense sucked that game and that loss is on them.  I think the 3rd quarter went something like fumble, fumble, punt and a pick.

Not blaming just Boldin, the entire offense made critical mistakes -- Flacco, Rice and Dickson each made a bonehead play in the second half. But to let the go ahead TD literally bounce off your chest is hardly "clutch"

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Not blaming just Boldin, the entire offense made critical mistakes -- Flacco, Rice and Dickson each made a bonehead play in the second half. But to let the go ahead TD literally bounce off your chest is hardly "clutch"

 

That was a poor drop that potentially lost the game, but Q made many clutch receptions during the last SB run. He played like a man possessed and would not be denied. Not sure we make it to NO without him.

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I never cared much for Derrick Mason. Lot of garbage production. Never did anything when it really counted. Boldins clutch production in the playoffs stands out so far.

This is possibly one of the worst statements i have read on this forum.  4 out 6 years he puts up over 1k yards and never once missed a game.  Just because he didnt make it to the SB doesnt mean he didnt make plays for us when it matters.  I highly doubt there is one single Ravens fan that would say this about Mason.   He also leads the franchise in receiving yards.  I get everyone has their opinion and i know you always are against the grain, but as much as you say we need players that know what it means to "play like a Raven" and you say that about Mason....makes it clear you dont even know what it means to play like a raven, 

 

I'm absolutely positive that you are confusing the two. Until SSS arrived, Mase was by far the best WR this franchise ever had.

couldnt agree more

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A lot of 89 jerseys are being worn.  When the first game starts in 017 that 89 number  should be plastered on everything. 'Im going

to the Miami game IN Baltimore. I want to see SSS and want revenge.       

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While I like having him back, I hope the Ravens don't continue to rely on SSS as their top receiver. We need for Perriman to take over as the top guy, for Aiken to keep playing at his best, and/or for a draft pick to come in and do well.

I agree. I love the idea of Smith coming back it is going to hurt us. Even if we make a game plan lets say with Aiken as the focus Flacco will always fall back to his security blanket. I wanted to see the Aiken//Flacco timing to get better and to finally either cut or atleast get through this jumble of a mess we call a WR corps. 

 

This will be going into year number 2 exactly like we did lasy year, so many questions and no answers.

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This is possibly one of the worst statements i have read on this forum. 4 out 6 years he puts up over 1k yards and never once missed a game. Just because he didnt make it to the SB doesnt mean he didnt make plays for us when it matters. I highly doubt there is one single Ravens fan that would say this about Mason. He also leads the franchise in receiving yards. I get everyone has their opinion and i know you always are against the grain, but as much as you say we need players that know what it means to "play like a Raven" and you say that about Mason....makes it clear you dont even know what it means to play like a raven,

couldnt agree more

That's because most football fans are blind homers!! Mason is gritty and fans like and respect him. And rightfully so!! But with that hometown hero favoritism, fans overrate a players skills and potential because fans like the player and want to believe the player is better than he really is. That is the definition of a Homer. Masons popularity far exceeded his effectiveness. Defenses did not respect him like the true #1 receivers. There are #2 receivers around the league defenses respected more. Mason was a very good receiver the ravens acquired later in his career. By the time Joe was drafted Mason was not what he was in his prime. The ravens were never going to win championship with Mason as their best playmaker. The 2008 run was one of the ravens funnest because of it was unexpected and the rookie qb and coach. However I knew the ravens were not beating Pittsburgh because of the difference in playmakers. I won so much $$ from homers in that game!! Edited by Winchester
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That's because most football fans are blind homers!! Mason is gritty and fans like and respect him. And rightfully so!! But with that hometown hero favoritism, fans overrate a players skills and potential because fans like the player and want to believe the player is better than he really is. That is the definition of a Homer. Masons popularity far exceeded his effectiveness. Defenses did not respect him like the true #1 receivers. There are #2 receivers around the league defenses respected more. Mason was a very good receiver the ravens acquired later in his career. By the time Joe was drafted Mason was not what he was in his prime with the Titans.

I'm a blind Homer when we are discussing the best Ravens wr? That doesn't even make sense. We aren't comparing him to anyone else outside of our organization, hence the best raven part.
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I'm a blind Homer when we are discussing the best Ravens wr? That doesn't even make sense. We aren't comparing him to anyone else outside of our organization, hence the best raven part.

Never said you were a blind Homer nor say he was not the ravens best for several yrs. Just said him being the best receiver was a flaw in the offense. He was best by default.

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That's really good news for you guys. Steve Smith is one of my favorite football players of the last decade-plus. He has a fire and intensity that easily shows whenever you watch him.

I'm glad he's giving it another "go-around". It was tough to think a player like that would go out his final year with a terrible injury while most of his team got hammered by injuries causing a real disappointing season.

Now he gets another chance to finish with a really good year on a team that has a real shot to win a championship if the roster stays healthy.

Good for him!

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Never said you were a blind Homer nor say he was not the ravens best for several yrs. Just said him being the best receiver was a flaw in the offense. He was best by default.

Then i dont know what/who you were referring to when you mentioned blind ravens fans.  And your right, you didnt say anything to my point, just stated you didnt like Mase and that Boldin stood out more.  So i have no clue where you stand on it with such vague responses.   My bad, carry on

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Then i dont know what/who you were referring to when you mentioned blind ravens fans.  And your right, you didnt say anything to my point, just stated you didnt like Mase and that Boldin stood out more.  So i have no clue where you stand on it with such vague responses.   My bad, carry on

Because the debate started by somebody saying no raven fans think Mason was overrated with a lot of garbage catches. You said it is one of the worst statements ever. So some things go without saying. Never said I didn't like him at all. I never cared for him as a #1 receiver. And he did have a lot of garbage production and limited routes because of how slow he was. The ravens worked with what he could do. I did not like him because he hated the idea of ravens bringing in receivers because he believed he was a true #1 and ran his mouth at the idea of the ravens needing a young#1 receiver. He was good at a couple timing patterns with joe flacco. After he was traded he was discarded in a blink by his new teams. It did not take long for them to see how limited he is.

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