2016 Edge Rusher thread

[GrimCoconut]

We will see. QBs get mocked high during the season all the time only to fall during the evaluation period. Still a long way to the draft

Yeah. I don't recall Blake Bortles being so highly rated and then he shot up boards after the NCAA season ended. Could be another similar situation. I think Goff stays at the top, though. 

 

I think a QB goes before we pick regardless, which means another player should fall to us, possibly an edge defender. 

Edited December 31, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[52520Andrew]

Yeah. I don't recall Blake Bortles being so highly rated and then he shot up boards after the NCAA season ended. Could be another similar situation. I think Goff stays at the top, though.

I think a QB goes before we pick regardless, which means another player should fall to us, possibly an edge defender.

Yeah a lot can still happen. Is he going to the Senior Bowl? That could be a lot of fun.

I am not as sold on that. I think we could see one but I think teams aren't reaching on guys like they did a couple years ago and I have yet to be sold on either of these QBs being worth top 10 picks.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Talking about QB's, can somebody explain to me why is Cody Kessler so underrated? Is it all about his size or something with his play?

 

He was lighting it up in a pro-style offense, surely guy like that would be looked at by NFL teams.

 

Lacks the requisite arm strength among other things. Probably stays around a while as a backup though 

[Winchester]

With the Law returning to school very weak edge rusher class!! Would prefer trading for Mingo and putting him in the Harbaugh offseason challenge to add some muscle and strength. Very explosive and flexible!! And very strong for 240lbs. Would be a destroyer at 260lbs. Same could be said for Irvin who was awesome while he juiced up to 258lbs!! If he did so legally he could be a steal as well.

[Winchester]

exactly, which is why i find it hard to believe that he was saying, during draft season last year, that darby was his favorite cb prospect in years. that simply doesnt sound believable to me and it sounds like hes trying to give himself credibility by saying "i predicted this longshot to be a stud", but theres no credibility if you cant cite these statements.

Pull up my posts. No secret I liked Darby a lot!!

[Inqui]

One guy I'd be really interested in if he were there in, say, the 4th or 5th (albeit players' stocks are seriously in flux atm), is Florida's Alex McCalister. His first step is a little inconsistent (doesn't worry me as much as Carl Lawson's though) but he's got long arms, a nice burst and the way he bends around tackles is phenomenal. The guy I think of when I see him is our own Elvis Dumervil.

[52liveforever]

Pull up my posts. No secret I liked Darby a lot!!

 

There are no posts. You didn't become a member until after the draft. Unless you had another account.

[Inqui]

There are no posts. You didn't become a member until after the draft. Unless you had another account.

Try looking for Pirate88. But the posts from the previous draft may or may not have been loaded into a cannon and fired into deep space nine.

[JoeyFlex5]

Try looking for Pirate88. But the posts from the previous draft may or may not have been loaded into a cannon and fired into deep space nine.

I always thought this myself lmao

[Winchester]

Try looking for Pirate88. But the posts from the previous draft may or may not have been loaded into a cannon and fired into deep space nine.

When i began postimg again i couldnt remember the numbers i used. I actually picked a different name but mods didn't accept it. It was funny but I imagine it was offensive.lol so understandably it was considered inappropriate.

Edited January 8, 2016 by Winchester

[PurpleCity5]

I know its cliche to compare people to Suggs but Bosa reminds me exactly of Suggs. Bosa isn't that athletic for a 3-4 OLB, I don't anticipate him to light up the combine and I think it could be questioned as well. They're both nasty players who can win multiple ways and stout run defenders. Both were also 4-3 DEs as well.

[GrimCoconut]

I know its cliche to compare people to Suggs but Bosa reminds me exactly of Suggs. Bosa isn't that athletic for a 3-4 OLB, I don't anticipate him to light up the combine and I think it could be questioned as well. They're both nasty players who can win multiple ways and stout run defenders. Both were also 4-3 DEs as well.

I'm not sure I see the same comparison. Suggs had a much better first step and could never move inside to rush the passer. If Bosa reminds me of anyone it's gotta be Watt. I don't even love that comparison but it's better than Suggs imo.

[KDUBB44]

I'm not sure I see the same comparison. Suggs had a much better first step and could never move inside to rush the passer. If Bosa reminds me of anyone it's gotta be Watt. I don't even love that comparison but it's better than Suggs imo.

Insanity. I think Bosa reminds me of Kerrigan

[Cillmatic]

Insanity. I think Bosa reminds me of Kerrigan

I've heard him be called "a less athletic Julius Peppers".

[KDUBB44]

I've heard him be called "a less athletic Julius Peppers".

I don't see Bosa getting past SD. If the top 3 teams stay as a 3-4 his best fit is at OLB. Funny how people call him a poor man's Peppers. Something that people forget about Bosa is the amount of talent he's played with at Ohio St. That 2013 class was special. I don't necessarily think he's the best prospect but he's a solid pick.

[PurpleCity5]

I'm not sure I see the same comparison. Suggs had a much better first step and could never move inside to rush the passer. If Bosa reminds me of anyone it's gotta be Watt. I don't even love that comparison but it's better than Suggs imo.

You can argue that they are different, but you can say the same for anyone you compare Bosa to. I like the Suggs comparison because they boast similar size, strengths/weaknesses, Bosa does not have the first step Suggs possesses, but he does have the similar size and skill sets, for one he rarely loses leverage and like Suggs is a discipline player. 

Edited January 9, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[Winchester]

Bosa is similar to a little stronger Jared Allen or a more explosive and stronger Cameron Jordan. Combine will be huge for him.

[GrimCoconut]

Insanity. I think Bosa reminds me of Kerrigan

I guess. I just think Bosa is more unique than anything. I really don't like any comparison to him. He can rush the passer both inside on the line and outside from the edge. I think he's mostly a unique prospect.

[Edgar]

Calhoun is a player I think we jump on in second round if he's there, provided we go a different direction with our first pick.

[GrimCoconut]

Calhoun is a player I think we jump on in second round if he's there, provided we go a different direction with our first pick.

He's so slow.

[RavensFanMania]

Insanity. I think Bosa reminds me of Kerrigan

Kerrigan is good but not 6th pick good.  He was picked 16th in the draft 2011.  That being said, he's an every down 3-4 linebacker that was a 4-3 end a purdue.  He puts 110% into every snap.

Edited January 11, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[RavensFanMania]

I guess. I just think Bosa is more unique than anything. I really don't like any comparison to him. He can rush the passer both inside on the line and outside from the edge. I think he's mostly a unique prospect.

He would be great on this defense.  Bosa is my first choice and I'm hoping he is available at #6 then we go DB or WR in the 2nd.

[Culpepper]

Leonard Floyd declared today, so that's good news.

[PurpleCity5]

Kerrigan is good but not 6th pick good.  He was picked 16th in the draft 2011.  That being said, he's an every down 3-4 linebacker that was a 4-3 end a purdue.  He puts 110% into every snap.

In this draft he is 6th pick good IMO.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Kerrigan is good but not 6th pick good. He was picked 16th in the draft 2011. That being said, he's an every down 3-4 linebacker that was a 4-3 end a purdue. He puts 110% into every snap.

Behind Von Miller, Aldon Smith, JJ Watt, and Robert Quinn. 2011 is looking like one of the best draft classes ever, cause in most drafts he'd be considered a top 10 pick

[January J]

Leonard Floyd declared today, so that's good news.

that is good news. I see him as a good fit here

[Robbyrobbass]

Noah Spence in the second rd

[Robbyrobbass]

He would be great on this defense. Bosa is my first choice and I'm hoping he is available at #6 then we go DB or WR in the 2nd.

naw bosa is this years highly overrated prospect

[GrimCoconut]

Noah Spence in the second rd

Not sure I agree with your other post that Bosa is highly overrated, but I do like Noah Spence quite a bit. He's up there for me as a pass rusher I want for the team with Yannick Ngakoue & Jonathan Allen. Those are really the only four guys who really get me interested. I'm just not feeling a lot of the pass rushers this year. 

 

Why do you feel Bosa is overrated? I'd like to hear. I'll admit that there are things I've seen from his game that concern me, but his ability to apply pressure is really, really good.

[Raven'evermore]

 I've said before that I don't follow college football so most of my information comes from these boards and watching a little tape, although quite frankly, I'm not quite sure what it is I'm supposed to be looking for.  Yeah, I know, pathetic, right.  However, my problem with taking Bosa or for that matter any pass rusher with the 6th pick is that there are so many more immediate needs  imo.  For all the comparisons to Watt or whoever; as good as Watt or Bosa are, they can still only do so much.  For instance as a pass rusher, Bosa can hurry, disrupt or sack the qb, but someone like Alexander (if he's as good as advertised) might usually shut down that one side of the field.  Might it be better to try and go back up and get a pass rusher after the first pick depending on who's available.  Where am I wrong?  Neggers may fire when ready.