[News] Eisenberg: Marc Trestman Has Earned Another Year As Offensive Architect

[Grapple Raven]

I have to admit that I have been perplexed when it comes to the running game this season. Granted you have to pass more when the run game isn't producing and you are behind, I get that.  What I don't get is how can you at the beginning of the season return the same O-line, same RB's and the reportedly the same zone-blocking system implemented by Kubes and get no production???  I find that baffling.  

 

I like The Greek, have questioned at times if Harbs put Castillo back in charge of the run game.  I could see Harbs putting Castillo back as "run game coordinator" to give Trestman time to learn the offense, player and coaching personnel and to work with and get to know Flacco.  It certainly would explain a 24th league ranking for the run game this season...so reminiscent of the season Castillo was run game coordinator with a 29th league ranking in 2013. God forbid, lol.  It does make ya wonder if we truly have been running the exact same system we had successfully done with Kubes, just sayin'.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Hey Trestman, you better not let Ryan Mallet leave Bmore! The Defense fed off him and looked very good shutting down the hottest Offense in football so they think! Joe can make all the throws in practice to keep the job but in a game he's been coming up "SHOTE"! I repeat "DO NOT LET RYAN LEAVE BMORE!

[manofsteel]

I do not know I would go that far!

[KidNme]

Trestman has done an admirable job considering the circumstances this season. He most definitely deserves another shot. If we had all of our starters for most of the year, we'd be in the playoffs I think.

Just think if we add all the yards SSS or Forsett would have had, a couple more critical sacks from the Doom and Sizzle tandem that hasn't been there and even having a healthy Perriman running for the goal line every down would have relieved some pressure if nothing else. I think it would be safe to say we'd have a couple more in the Win category.

I am pretty proud of how Harbaugh not only kept this team together in a losing season we're not used to but actually excelled in many areas that we'll surely benefit from next season and "Boy oh Boy" is that going to feel good!

[Crusader]

"ould you have believed it? I didn%u2019t think so." This is the problem media has with fans> They think were stupid. Were we not told Marc was the "Quarterback Whisperer"?. Our QB's throw 40 a game and stats show we lose most times when Ravens do that! "We need to run the ball more" How any time have you heard that? So YES I did think so. Check your website history 2 years ago. I said this would be Ravens worst season too and next year will not be much better.

[DrinkmoreBeer]

Given key losses in all the skill positions (Flacco, Forsett, S. Smith, Perriman, Campanaro), the O has played surprisingly well. It's the D that's the problem. Our CB's play 10 yards off the ball, our FS can't find the ball, and the pass rush has been mediocre. Ravens' biggest need is not a speed receiver. It's CB and safety. Players who are aggressive and cause turnovers.

[ellicottraven]

This wasn't Flacco's best season for many reasons and excuses. I remember that, repeatedly, Flacco took responsibility after games for making stupid decisions. Do I think that Mallett will take over the starting QB in place of Flacco? Of course not. But Flacco needs to correct his thought process and his flawed technique of throwing off his back foot. Do I think he will? Yes. But I am glad that Mr. Mallett is here.

I think Joe will get better now. Sometimes even the people with the best intentions and talent need to be pushed to achieve greatness. The fact that Mallet is his back up will provide that little extra bit of motivation for Flacco to make those little changes to his technique and demeanor that will surely propel him into the elite ranks of QBs next season.

[Ravens_Flock]

Earned another year? For what? A drastic plummet in our production from 2014? After fans being promised that him coming on board wasn't going to change anything, and that we were going to use the same offense we did in 2014? And then we went on to do precisely not that at all? Which, by the way, is just what I figured would happen. I knew as soon as they hired Trestman that "this guy does not fit Ravens football". And he doesn't. Meanwhile, I'm sure somehow Dean Pees "earned" another year here in Bmore as well, even though outside of our pass rush in 2014, his defenses have sucked since he became DC.

[NNITRED]

Before Mallet came to Baltimore he won only 1 of his five games that he actually showed up for. His win against the Steelers makes 2. Two wins and goofy Ravens fans think he's on par with Flacco. Some Ravens have a knack for finding new ways of embarrassing themselves.

Edited December 31, 2015 by NNITRED

[OUravensfan]

Before Mallet came to Baltimore he won only 1 of his five games that he actually showed up for. His win against the Steelers makes 2. Two wins and goofy Ravens fans think he's in any way on par with Flacco. Some Ravens have a knack for find new ways of embarrassing themselves.

Fire Harbaugh? Kind of like that.....

[ittwasntme]

we just need to not make excuses for joe anymore, he had a better WR core then the back ups have had but yet the backups seem to show up and flacco didnt at times

[Mystigo_Dragon]

Trestman's offense was ranked 11th before Flacco went down, Kubiak's last year was ranked 12th. Kubiak had our starting WRs, and Trestman has been working with 3rd stringers at every skill position. I don't see how he's doing more harm than good. The offense has overachieved considering all the injuries. He's had success as an OC in the past, and if the offense can rank in the top half of the league with a bunch of backups, then why shouldn't we believe that this offense could be one of the best in the league when we get healthy?

 Not gonna quibble over 1%,...especially using much of Kubiak's system! Trestman's "damaged goods",... and that's all I have to say!

[Mystigo_Dragon]

Yes, I get that it is the still the run system we had in 2014! Perhaps that's why I said I'm interested in seeing him put his stamp on things!

 

It never ceases to amaze me at how people use his poor performance as a HC as an indictment on his ability to be an OC! I would be very mad if we hired him as our HC (but of course, for you, anyone is better than Harbaugh) - I'm perfectly happy to see him as our OC!

 

As far as this "in-house" promotion goes ... Any names you'd like to put forward, or is that just a nebulous suggestion with no concrete option? !

 

(did I use enough exclamation points?  )

 

 

LOL,... Can't say you haven't nailed me about my,... let's call it "lack of enthusiasm" in Harbs' stewardship!

But I took a moment to review Marc Trestman's coaching record in the NFL [1985; didn't coach in 1992- to 94] and it indicates that he's effective as a Quarterbacks Coach [which Joe needs badly].

His effectiveness as an O.C. is negligible [Niners & Cardinals were high points 1 year each] when you gauge the teams' he's coached offensive effectiveness with the prowess of their defenses!

Other than that, he left the NFL, coaching at NC State in 2005-06 and was out of coaching [again] in 2007!  

He's a journeyman at best with a basically lackluster career! 

I still say had we made a concerted bid for one of Kubiak's "disciples" to stay as O.C. in order to begin his assent to H.C., we'd have been better served! We seem to lack that type of imagination, fan

Edited December 30, 2015 by Mystigo_Dragon

[RavensBaltimore]

Earned another year? For what? A drastic plummet in our production from 2014? After fans being promised that him coming on board wasn't going to change anything, and that we were going to use the same offense we did in 2014? And then we went on to do precisely not that at all? Which, by the way, is just what I figured would happen. I knew as soon as they hired Trestman that "this guy does not fit Ravens football". And he doesn't. Meanwhile, I'm sure somehow Dean Pees "earned" another year here in Bmore as well, even though outside of our pass rush in 2014, his defenses have sucked since he became DC.

A drastic plummet in our production? Before Flacco got hurt, our offense was ranked one spot higher in yds/game than last year's offense, and that's with 3rd stringers starting at all the skill positions. Our offense this year is still ranked higher than Kubiak's offense in Denver. When you're offense is as depleted as ours, and you're still ranked in the top half of the league, you definitely have earned another year as the OC.

[Joshuahill2@aol.com]

I am not a Trestman fan. Maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember the great play calling from Kubiak last year. The concepts are the same west coast concepts, but Trestman doesn't have an variety in his schemes. He is predictable. Trestman may be a good offensive coordinator, but he is a poor play caller. I think Marty Mornhinwig would be a better playcaller of Trestman's offense. I also think he could provide more imagination to the offense as he is a west coast guy himself. Trestman reminds me of Cameron and sometimes you need an outside perspective to improve upon your work.

[RavensBaltimore]

 Not gonna quibble over 1%,...especially using much of Kubiak's system! Trestman's "damaged goods",... and that's all I have to say!

It has nothing to do with percentages. It's about the fact that Trestman's offense has been about as good as Kubiak's offense last year, despite the fact that Trestman has had far less talent to work with. 

[Mystigo_Dragon]

It has nothing to do with percentages. It's about the fact that Trestman's offense has been about as good as Kubiak's offense last year, despite the fact that Trestman has had far less talent to work with. 

 

Disagree! 

[RavensBaltimore]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 11:12 AM, Mystigo_Dragon said:

Disagree! 

It's debatable how "good" the offense is, but it is a fact that this year's and last year's offenses are ranked about the same, in terms of yds/game, and it is a fact that Trestman's offense has had far more starters and backups injured. It's also a fact that Trestman's offense right now is ranked higher than Kubiak's offense in Denver, in terms of yds/game. You can't disagree with the facts.

[Mystigo_Dragon]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 11:53 PM, RavensBaltimore said:

It's debatable how "good" the offense is, but it is a fact that this year's and last year's offenses are ranked about the same, in terms of yds/game, and it is a fact that Trestman's offense has had far more starters and backups injured. It's also a fact that Trestman's offense right now is ranked higher than Kubiak's offense in Denver, in terms of yds/game. You can't disagree with the facts.

 

 

[Mystigo_Dragon]

I am not a Trestman fan. Maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember the great play calling from Kubiak last year. The concepts are the same west coast concepts, but Trestman doesn't have an variety in his schemes. He is predictable. Trestman may be a good offensive coordinator, but he is a poor play caller. I think Marty Mornhinwig would be a better playcaller of Trestman's offense. I also think he could provide more imagination to the offense as he is a west coast guy himself. Trestman reminds me of Cameron and sometimes you need an outside perspective to improve upon your work.

 

I agree with you! I would have preferred that we'd have lured on of Kubiak's disciples and promoted him to O.C., kept the playbook and made it our own!

There are those who agree with every move Harbs makes! Sorry, but I do not! I believe, as the years mount, we'll see less of Kubiak's run scheme and more of the running back-as-receiver manusha that preceded Trestman's landing here! With a Ray Rice, that worked well, but we still need a heavy hitter to "pound that pill".!

[dirtybird66]

  On 1/2/2016 at 11:53 PM, RavensBaltimore said:

It's debatable how "good" the offense are, but it is a fact that this year's and last year's offenses are ranked about the same, in terms of yds/game, and it is a fact that Trestman's offense has had far more starters and backups injured. It's also a fact that Trestman's offense right now is ranked higher than Kubiak's offense in Denver, in terms of yds/game. You can't disagree with the facts.

 

 

yeah,true,injuries,lets give it another year,but i also thought we were running the exact same thing as kubiak,i heard.