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[News] Eisenberg: Marc Trestman Has Earned Another Year As Offensive Architect

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Thank you, people just like to blame the new guy but we have been consistent with the offense even with all the injuries. Keep him and let him draft receivers he likes.

Lastly; Jensen has gave us an upper hand with Monroe and the Osemele situation he has been performing well in the LG. Imagine this line up in 2016. Osemele, Jensen, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner. Well give Joe Flacco so much time on the ball. Trenches should be the focal point this season. If Monroe don't restructure his contract find a suitable trade

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I seem him just improving with this team over time, as we get players back next year and he can start doing more to put his own stamp on this team. There may be coaching changes to come this offseason, but I don't think Trestman is one of them.

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Trestman has done a decent job juggling a makeshift, revolving door roster and found some success despite this disadvantage. I think Trestman has earned another year to see what he can do with a hopefully healthy and consistent roster. Since Trestman was able to adapt his play calling according to skillset of the ever changing personnel this year, I think Trestman looks promising to provide a strong offense for next year.

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hypothetical question moving forward.

Lets say we dont rush joe back quickly to start next season week 1, lets say we roll into week 1 and 2 with Mallett at center. Mallet walks away those games with 2 W's, Ok at this point lets say flacco is more then ready week 3 to play. Do you start him? One more question, week 3 production from flacco doesnt match Malletts prior weeks and we lose. What then? Does the money talk so much that flacco unless injuried is our guy? or do you put the winning hand forward.

Again this is all hypothetically speaking. I am not saying Mallett is the answer to next year but if he plays next weeks game like he played VS the steelers dont you start to question it?

another question why is it taking back up QBs for aiken and other receivers to show production?? Aiken was seeing number 2 corners all year with flacco and SmithSR and never had the production he has been having since they both went down.... is that play design, flacco simply being single minded, or is that all the above?

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I seem him just improving with this team over time, as we get players back next year and he can start doing more to put his own stamp on this team. There may be coaching changes to come this offseason, but I don't think Trestman is one of them.

 

Balfan, it's still the run system we had in 2014! I'm afraid that Trestman would "improved" us into the mediocrity that has hamstrung Chicago for the years of his tenure! <_<  

Alas, he's here now //sigh// and he may end up doing more harm than good as he "tinkers" away our proven zone-stretch run scheme (of kubiak's) for his scheme! We'll have to see what the future holds but I wish we'd have gone 'in-house' and developed a young Raven Oh Coordinator based upon our 2014 prowess and Kubiak's Playbook!

 

Just another example of Harb's lack of imagination in our coaching ranks!  :oldwiseman:

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Would Joe have won Sunday and "Whom" would Trestman offense work better with Joe or Ryan?! I'm sorry I like Joe but I don't think he would have won Sunday and is why I knew it will be a QB controversy on the horizon! The Ravens organization is the definition of "RELENTLESS" and it showed Sunday and I know Triple " S " will be back now!

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Would Joe have won Sunday and "Whom" would Trestman offense work better with Joe or Ryan?! I'm sorry I like Joe but I don't think he would have won Sunday and is why I knew it will be a QB controversy on the horizon! The Ravens organization is the definition of "RELENTLESS" and it showed Sunday and I know Triple " S " will be back now!

Purple Dawg 96, I agree with the first part of what you said about not thinking Joe would've won the game.  I agree because, as of late, when games get tight Joe seemed too become to anxious (nervous feet, hearing footsteps, ansy) and sometimes run out of protection unnecessarily, and would try to force the ball down the field usually wounding up in a pick or incompletion.  These last couple of years have been tough for our team.  Prior to these last 2 years, Joe would not play like that cause he had consistent protection up front, and wasn't running for his life in the backfield.  I don't think they'll be a QB controversy cause Joe's overall body of work has been stellar for the most part (post-season), while Mallet has only had one good game with us.  We need to see much more from him before or if there becomes a QB controversy.  Harbaugh is devoted to Joe...they're boys!  Trust me Joe is not going anywhere...his job is safe. 

 

P.S.

 

We need to hope Tyrod has a bad day Sunday under center for the Bills.

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hypothetical question moving forward.

Lets say we dont rush joe back quickly to start next season week 1, lets say we roll into week 1 and 2 with Mallett at center. Mallet walks away those games with 2 W's, Ok at this point lets say flacco is more then ready week 3 to play. Do you start him? One more question, week 3 production from flacco doesnt match Malletts prior weeks and we lose. What then? Does the money talk so much that flacco unless injuried is our guy? or do you put the winning hand forward.

Again this is all hypothetically speaking. I am not saying Mallett is the answer to next year but if he plays next weeks game like he played VS the steelers dont you start to question it?

another question why is it taking back up QBs for aiken and other receivers to show production?? Aiken was seeing number 2 corners all year with flacco and SmithSR and never had the production he has been having since they both went down.... is that play design, flacco simply being single minded, or is that all the above?

...you have to go with the hot hand!  Putting Joe in could hurt the teams chances of winning...after being on the sideline for so long Joe would have to get back up to speed and re-adjust to the speed of the game. Remember the reason why we place this game, and that's to win.  And you have to play the player that gives you the best chance of winning.  when that player stumbles or gets hurt, then you go back with your starter (Joe).   Or you let Joe play/start a game and see how he does first. If he does ok, let him play the whole game.  If he doesn't look confident or impressive for that first half, then put in Mallet to play the 2nd half so that we don't lose the game.  We could do that for awhile to Joe back up to speed before giving him his job back full-time.

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If Trestman garnered career bests out of both Clausen and Mallett, I wonder where he went wrong with the best QB of the lot, Flacco? Food for thought?

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Would Joe have won Sunday and "Whom" would Trestman offense work better with Joe or Ryan?! I'm sorry I like Joe but I don't think he would have won Sunday and is why I knew it will be a QB controversy on the horizon! The Ravens organization is the definition of "RELENTLESS" and it showed Sunday and I know Triple " S " will be back now!

I think you reading to much into the performances. The pass/run ratio has not been balanced at all so of course all the QB's that played including Flacco could have had season high numbers. You do realize Joe is a SB winner/MVP and is one of the top QB's in the league when it comes to the playoffs right? In no way shape or form will their be a QB controversy. The QB's that played are playing for the 2nd string QB on the team, not a starting job. Our o-line has not played good in the beginning/middle of the season and our LT probably didn't play 5 full games if that. It's a lot that goes into a QB's success than just throwing the ball. We forget what Kubiack did which is why Flacco excelled like he did. Kubiack established the run and ran tons of PA plays which is Flacco's strong suit. We have not ran PA like we should have this year at all and I hope they recognize that and throw more of that into the playbook. I understand trestman has his plays but he has to make it friendly for the styles of each players. Flacco is a PA running, deep ball guy. You keep the defense honest that way and it allows him to sit in the pocket and throw darts. We've seen this happen last year. If we can get that going and get BP on the field, we should be fine. 

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Trestman should get a pass for this year, considering what he had to work with....Could say the same for Pees, but i just don't like his play calling...JMO....

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Flacco is top 3 for wins in his 8 years, and his playoff road record is tops, he is our starting QB.....Mallet if he continues his pay will be a great luxury as a backup, as most teams have such a wide gap between starter and backup....

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Starters on the Ravens don't lose their starting spots just by virtue of getting injured. We'd don't operate that way. You also don't make a tectonic shift from a starting franchise (Super Bowl MVP) QB to a journeyman based on one performance. So all these hypotheticals about a guy replacing, or much less even giving Joe a run for his money are quite far-fetched. Mallett is a back up. He will remain a back up in 2016. There is no controversy. Period. Full stop.

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There are gonna be people that think "well, I don't see anyone lining up to sign Trestman to a head coaching gig anytime soon." Just remember, Caldwell became a head coach after coordinating an 8-8 team. So it's possible. Heck, we made Cameron a coordinator after being a 1-15 Head Coach of the Dolphins. It happens. We should consider ourselves lucky for some continuity for once.

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Before his injury, Flacco was on his way to setting all kinds of offensive records for this team. We were scoring at an unheard of level. I don't think either Trestman or Flacco's jobs are in jeopardy.

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trestman will be fine as long as the running game issues can be fixed. is the issue castillo? because the same zbs existed this season with the only difference being not having kubiak here. maybe we need jamal lewis 2.0. hopefully the o-line can be healthy together to start the season. wagner seems to have regained his form with monroes injury issues and osemeles contract situation being the big ?? of the off season. hopefully flacco wants ko back as much as we do

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I cannot for the life of me see how "FANS" are calling for Mallett over Flacco based on one game. Yes it was a huge game but seriously you people honestly believe that Mallett offers the Ravens better opportunity than Flacco?

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The overreaction in these comments is crazy. Mallett definitely showed a command of the offense, a poise, and a level of throwing ability that Clausen and Schaub don't have that showed he is the best choice to be the backup next year. But some of you are actually insane in thinking this could cause a 'QB controversy'. There are many reasons why Aiken and some other guys have played better since Flacco went down, and also why we may have played better LAST WEEK with Mallett than if Flacco was playing. Teams have had zero gamefilm on our offense since Flacco was injured, because we've been playing a new quarterback, different group of receivers, new offensive line combination, and some new backs each week. That will lead to disasters, and occasionally, if those players play well, it can lead to a win. Think about a finals series in basketball. There are players who can shut down other players, and teams that can beat other teams, in one game. But those same teams would have no chance in a 7 game series. Mallett was great Sunday, Pees gameplan was great, and the receivers were good, but if we played Pittsburgh another 5 times with that same personnel, we're not winning 3 out of 5. You see backup quarterbacks come in all the time and win a game, and Mallett is one of the most talented in the league, but the biggest difference between starters and backups is consistency, not talent, which is why we hear that guys like Kirk Cousins, Brian Hoyer, amd Ryan Fitzpatrick (prior to this year) are great/terrible every other week. Flacco, when given protection (and Mallett was protected very well) good receivers, and a decent running game, is an excellent quarterback

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I loved Mallet's play -- a couple of those overhead bullets he threw looked like Kareem skyhooks -- but we gotta remember that Joe had a flimsy left O-line through most of this season. Moving KO to the outside seems to be the real change here...finally our QB has time time to do what he wants. If Mallet could do that, the Steelers should be happy Joe wasn't there to do it.

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Last year under Kubiak (who everyone loved BTW) we finished 12th in total offense. This year we're at 14 with a game left to play.  Dropping only 2 spots considering ALL of the injuries we've dealt with is nothing short of amazing.  BTW, Denver under Kubiak/Dennison is 19th in total offense. 

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Lets be very clear here about Flacco's performance and those of Clausen, Schaub and Mallett. Flacco was playing behind an offensive line that was playing horribly. Wagner was routinely rated as a negative by PFF, Monroe was never really serious about his job and Hurst, well the spelling of his name is correct because that is what they put dead people in and he cost us Flacco and Schaub. Once Clausen and Mallett got in there, KO was at left tackle, Ryan Jensen has played at a phenomenal level, and the whole line kept Mallett upright except for once against the Steelers. So to say Flacco was not as successful and throwing off his back foot was purely out of self-preservation and had he actually had a front line, he would have been as successful as these other guys.

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Joe Flacco Is our QB. Never forget Joe Flacco is our Superbowl MVP Qb! Mallett is our excellent Backup. This competition between Flacco and Mallett is ony going to make them better, Im happy for Mallett but Joe is our QB and he's the best, Thats it!

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Trestman can put up points no matter the qb... however.. The coaching staff must reinforce next year.. IMPORTANCE of Run Game. To many times this year it was 45 passes to 15 runs.

Thats losing football, need 25-30 runs a game...to 35 passes

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"Trestman was the common denominator in those performances". I think the Offensive line was the Common denominator. Jensen Played way better than I ever thought and If we would of put Osemele at Left Tackle say 2 Months ago Joe Might still be playing. They gave Mallett so much time so Aiken, Juszczyk, West, and Allen could shine

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If Trestman garnered career bests out of both Clausen and Mallett, I wonder where he went wrong with the best QB of the lot, Flacco? Food for thought?

Flacco is also part of the equation. Could it be Flacco? More food for thought.

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