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Mcgahee Rips It Up...

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It's sad that mcgahee can't really catch the ball too well... and just because he is a has-been... (hasn't done crap since college) everyone here is hyping him up to be the next LT...

he averaged 1100 yds in Buffalo

you'll miss him, believe me

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he averaged 1100 yds in Buffalo

you'll miss him, believe me

To be honest, no we won't..

1100 yards is less then satisfactory, especially for the money he wants. I'd rather have Lynch in there running less, and catching more.

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To be honest, no we won't..

1100 yards is less then satisfactory, especially for the money he wants. I'd rather have Lynch in there running less, and catching more.

You're gonna really miss the Bills in general when they move to Toronto.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but i am beginning to think that maybe buffalo wasnt the problem with this guy... i mean, he gets rocked and fumbles on the first play in training camp... by a rookie none the less... and he has two horrible showings in a row.

I know it is just pre-season, but come on... 6 carries for 3 yards and 1 catch for 1 yard? I bet shaud williams (another bill) would have done better than that...

Do you realize that training camp hit was not suppose to be hit that hard, or more like he wasn't suppose to go at McGahee that hard is what I was reading in practice, I am sure he wasn't expecting it since he was not suppose to so wasn't holding onto the ball very tight. And second of all he has nothing to do with his YPC the OFFENSIVE line needs to learn to block better and make BIGGER HOLES.. I believe any back can be good depending on how good their OFFENSIVE line is the more holes they open the more yards they can and how much easier it is like for LT. IF LT didn't have a good Offensive line he wouldn't be as impressive as he is, I believe he is good enough to find something to work but not be half as good as he is now. We have Rookie Jard Gaither as Tackle keeping people off McGahee etc and thats a bit hard of a job being a ROOK going against STARTERS TO do. JO needs to get healthy etc and I believe McGahee will have a better chance running the ball and the whole Offensive line needs to get their act together we have a few new guys out their still learning. This is only Preseason lets wish for the best during regular season! and keep our heads up and stop getting so MUCH NEGATIVITY! or we will put a jinx on the team and suck it up this YEAR!!.

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well, if you don't remember, he has a bigger mouth than he does skill set... among his famous sayings..

I am the best running back in the league

Buffalo is boring, should move to toronto... many players and coaches said all willis ever did was go back to his room and play games... never took the time to socialize.

If you guys want production out of mcgahee, the only way i can think of doing it is have another starter quality running back on the team... then maybe he will have motivation like he once seemed to have when the bill still have travis henry.

*cough *cough UMMM MIKE ANDERSON?! DID WE FORGET ABOUT HIM!?.

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He had 1 run for 16 yards, and ended with 20 on 4 carries, that means he got 4 yards on the next 3 carries... thats great.

I have been watching Willis since his college days. I watched him in Buffalo (thanks to the Ticket) and I have been playing close attention in Baltimore. Let me tell you that what your seeing isn't just because its preseason, its Willis. Like Willis, I used to blame the Bills O line too, but guess what, the Bills upgraded thier Oline and ours has been downgraded. Willis is still playing behind a below average O line and he is still playing like crap. He is slow to find holes and dances in the backfield too much. He's getting better at picking up the blitz, though still not great, and routinely forgets his routes when lining up as a receiver, no to mention he's afraid to catch the ball in the middle of the field.

Willis talks a lot, and he only had one good season in Buffalo, but it wasn't because he was busting off long runs, its because he was running 35-40 sometimes 45 times a game. If you can't get 100 yards touching the ball that many times then you shouldn't be in the NFL.

Willis will have some good games, he'll have some great games, but mostly he will have poor games and make you wonder what all the hype is about. He'll break a thousand because thats not too hard in today's NFL, but he will be hard pressed to break 1200 this year.

It's disappointing to me because I am or at least was a big fan of this guy, and I thought with a new team he would be re energized but he's the same old Willis. He is not a running back that will hit a whole as soon as it opens up, it takes him a second maybe two to hit it and by that time its already closing up. Most of his good runs will come from defensive meltdowns from other teams... and he has huge games against the Jets.

I would like to see Willis light up the league this year but it looks like more of the same from this cat.

I think it is time for a "NAME CHANGE" then Nasty McGahee being I assume you mean he is 1 nasty Running back. and you are throwing the guy under a BUS. :o

BTW: I would MUCH RATHER HAVE MCGAHEE running the ball then JAMAL who takes forever to hit a hole. at least with McGahee he hits that hole FAST and doesn't pitty pat too it.. hoping his muscle and weight will knock guys down and he will get a good 5-6 yds like Jamal.. Hiiii diddle diddle as*hole up the middle every time lol.. last year JAMAL was so predictable and before that, I don't think I saw him more then twice run the ball outside last year when there was times there was no one on the outside really and he could have busted some NASTY runs for major yards..

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I don't know about the rest of you, but i am beginning to think that maybe buffalo wasnt the problem with this guy... i mean, he gets rocked and fumbles on the first play in training camp... by a rookie none the less... and he has two horrible showings in a row.

I know it is just pre-season, but come on... 6 carries for 3 yards and 1 catch for 1 yard? I bet shaud williams (another bill) would have done better than that...

dude he was hit in the backfield for tackles for a loss of 5,4 and 2....nobody does good when that happens

when he wasnt hit in the backfield it was 3 carries for 14 yards...so quit ****in about that game people

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You're gonna really miss the Bills in general when they move to Toronto.

HA, you just proved you know nothing outside of what you hear on NFL Network.

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dude he was hit in the backfield for tackles for a loss of 5,4 and 2....nobody does good when that happens

when he wasnt hit in the backfield it was 3 carries for 14 yards...so quit ****in about that game people

That's the thing, you guys expect him to be this monumental game changing back, but he won't be. Unless you make holes and make it easy for him to break big runs. He doesn't have very good recognition from the backfield, and is horrible at off-tackle runs. If you don't make holes for him he will be nothing more then an average running back.

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That's the thing, you guys expect him to be this monumental game changing back, but he won't be. Unless you make holes and make it easy for him to break big runs. He doesn't have very good recognition from the backfield, and is horrible at off-tackle runs. If you don't make holes for him he will be nothing more then an average running back.

It's preseason.

JO wasn't playing.

Other important players were out (C. Chester).

We had newbies scattered across the line.

I could go on..

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plus (to add the that above) we have Outstanding Coaches that McGahee can learn from and soon enough, go through the holes (our Offensive line is Young and therefor has ALOT of potential, so i can see McGahee getting those BIg runs in ...Ozzie wouldnt have spent the money we did on him IF he didnt see what he could do whenever he has the ball in his hands

plus just like what Ozzie said he's a player that is Entering the "prime of his career and has his BEST football years ahead of him"

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It's preseason.

JO wasn't playing.

Other important players were out (C. Chester).

We had newbies scattered across the line.

I could go on..

Definitely, I don't your starting line really. I'm just going off what I've seen, I obviously don't know the roster. I can understand the preseason thing with passing, and playcalling, but running the ball is running the ball. Hit the hole and go.. I'll take the injuries and such, but the preseason thing I really don't buy outside of playcalling.

I will take that maybe they actually watched film and knew what you guys were going to do, 'cause that's really peculiar.. and odd for teams to do in the preseason.

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ahh...the mcgahee haters are avoiding my post

see 3 carries for 14 yards is 4.7 a pop..pretty good..thats what he had without the backfield hits

to post the 6 for 3 is stupid...if you only have 6 carries and 3 of them are tackles for a loss of 5,4 and 2 yards then your average is gonna be lpretty damn low....just to get 4 a pop he wouldve needed to gain 35 yards on his other 3 runs

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ahh...the mcgahee haters are avoiding my post

see 3 carries for 14 yards is 4.7 a pop..pretty good..thats what he had without the backfield hits

to post the 6 for 3 is stupid...if you only have 6 carries and 3 of them are tackles for a loss of 5,4 and 2 yards then your average is gonna be lpretty damn low....just to get 4 a pop he wouldve needed to gain 35 yards on his other 3 runs

Let's look at his stats..

Att Yds Avg Lng

4 20 5.0 16

6 3 0.5 7

5.0 is a wonderful average, but good lord, consistency please. Four runs and one of those was for 16 yards, that means he had 3 different runs for a grand total of 4 yards. That's ridiculous, a top 5 pro bowl running back has better consistency. The second game, well.. lets not even go through that game. I've said countless times here that McGahee is a back that needs a hole and needs a hole fast. You don't give him a hole and he's going to dance until he loses 3 or 4 yards. His style throughout the years has been run for 3 yards, lose 2, then run for 1 yard, then lose 4. He doesn't have consistency. And you're going to want that, especially if he's gonna be a probowler.

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Let's look at his stats..

Att Yds Avg Lng

4 20 5.0 16

6 3 0.5 7

5.0 is a wonderful average, but good lord, consistency please. Four runs and one of those was for 16 yards, that means he had 3 different runs for a grand total of 4 yards. That's ridiculous, a top 5 pro bowl running back has better consistency. The second game, well.. lets not even go through that game. I've said countless times here that McGahee is a back that needs a hole and needs a hole fast. You don't give him a hole and he's going to dance until he loses 3 or 4 yards. His style throughout the years has been run for 3 yards, lose 2, then run for 1 yard, then lose 4. He doesn't have consistency. And you're going to want that, especially if he's gonna be a probowler.

well ok...lets see here

now you cant blame him if hes hit before he can really even start running...RB whos taken 1 or no steps vs LB that has been flying for 5-6 yards...not very fair..3 car 14 yd excluding tackles for a loss...4.7 a pop...if your hit in the backfield 3 times and you have 6 carries your average wont be high

in the eagles game he didnt do dance crap your complaining about...he saw considine and kearse closing in and ducked under 1 yd

then his 16 yd run breaking from trotter

then takeo spikes slaps off justin greene and tackles him...1 yd

then he runs into a pile of eagles..pushes...gets 2 yds

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So basically, McGahee has done nothing and it's everyone but his own fault?

"done nothing"

It's the 2nd preseason game, man

settle down

And if you mean "nothing" from his time in Buffalo:

He averaged 1100 yds, 7 TDs, and ~93 yds/game

thats something

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Its still preseason and "in Ozzzie we trust". Let see what happens when we play the bungles on Monday night. Until then its all useless chatter. I wish our Raven posters would not get sucked ino the hate posts from other teams. Go Ravens!

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Mcgahee said he wanted to get his feet wet...he did!!!

I see an explosive back and the only thing that can stop him is himself.

That type of power is dangerous...If Mcgahee is up to the work he can be the best back in the game.

Mcgahee has a new pride with the Ravens don't make him loose it with constant battering.

McGahee I feel ya prove dese suckers wrong. Put everything McGahee will impress the whole league with time.

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last year he was stuffed at a rate of 1 time every 8 carries....thats a pretty bad o-line right there..hopefully that wont happen here

and the league's rushing leaders

LaDanian Tomlinson 1 time every 13.5 carries..5.2 a pop

Larry Johnson 1 time every 10.5 carries..4.4 a pop

Frank Gore 1 time every 12 carries..5.4 a pop

Tiki Barber 1 time every 10 carries....5.1 a pop

Brian Westbrooke 1 time every 15 carries...5.1 a pop

Stephen Jackson 1 time every 16.5 carries..4.4 a pop

Willie Parker 1 time every 11.5 carries....4.4 a pop

some top fantasy backs last year...none of them stuffed nearly as much

and for those who wished we kept chester taylor...stuffed 1 time every 11 carries...4.0 a pop(not much more than mcgahee and stuffed way less)

i think the giants game proved it

stats 6 car 3 yds.....stats without stuffs...3 car 14 yds

we have to keep guys out of the backfield

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There is one indisputable fact - MaGahee is a huge talent! I think what frustrated Bills fans most was that you would occasionally see these flashes of brilliance - a feat that can only be accomplished by a first rate back, then not see it for a while. Also, it seems he didn't work that hard - forgetting plays, etc. He will probably be very effective for the Ravens - whether he will be worth the money remains to be seen - if he works hard, he'll be worth every penny.

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It is extremely hard to run an offense without a line.

We have three great scrambling QB's and that is what we would have to rely on without a line.

I don't know of any RB (except Barry Sanders) who can run good without a line.

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He's only gooten 14 carries in 3.....(2 1/2) preseason Games. That's not enough to get a good feel or groove started. It will all fall into place once the season gets underway. Players and coaches don't want to risk injury during preseason. I'm not expecting 100 yard games every game, I'll be happy as long as he helps keep drives going and we don't get 2nd and long or 3rd and long.

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