Mcgahee Rips It Up...

[T-Ravenous]

I don't know about the rest of you, but i am beginning to think that maybe buffalo wasnt the problem with this guy... i mean, he gets rocked and fumbles on the first play in training camp... by a rookie none the less... and he has two horrible showings in a row.

I know it is just pre-season, but come on... 6 carries for 3 yards and 1 catch for 1 yard? I bet shaud williams (another bill) would have done better than that...

[Living_the_Life]

'eh, he'll be fine once regular season rolls around.

He's definitely no Top 5 NFL RB, but he's got talent. I wouldn't worry.

[T-Ravenous]

'eh, he'll be fine once regular season rolls around.

He's definitely no Top 5 NFL RB, but he's got talent. I wouldn't worry.

well, if you don't remember, he has a bigger mouth than he does skill set... among his famous sayings..

I am the best running back in the league

Buffalo is boring, should move to toronto... many players and coaches said all willis ever did was go back to his room and play games... never took the time to socialize.

If you guys want production out of mcgahee, the only way i can think of doing it is have another starter quality running back on the team... then maybe he will have motivation like he once seemed to have when the bill still have travis henry.

[Raven07]

2 horrible showings? umm the first game (we won) he had 1 run for 16 yards...finished the game with 20 yards...he didnt even play the whole game, a quarter if that...so i see no reason to worry, last night, i saw him break 1 up the middle for 9-10 yards...once again, he didnt play the entire game, you cant expect a guy to rush for 100 yards in a quarter, so i think when it comes to the regular season, he'll do fine

[Slick]

2 horrible showings? umm the first game (we won) he had 1 run for 16 yards...finished the game with 20 yards...he didnt even play the whole game, a quarter if that...so i see no reason to worry, last night, i saw him break 1 up the middle for 9-10 yards...once again, he didnt play the entire game, you cant expect a guy to rush for 100 yards in a quarter, so i think when it comes to the regular season, he'll do fine

he had one series, not even a quarter. he came out when mcnair and co. did after the firwst series of the game but yes he did break a nice 16 yd run. I think everybodys overanalyzing this preseason as if it was the actual season. this is a time to get a feel for the gameplan and check out the rookies, not obliterate every team we come across. this last game against the giants is nothing more than a learning opportunity for the entire team, seeing as no one person or group was responsible for the loss. there are many things we need to work on and im sure now that weve had a game like this, Billick will hone in on those problems and refine them for the regualr season.

[Drkraven]

The whole team seemed flat last night and the O line out of sync, and that plays a huge role in the running game. I think he and Mike Anderson will make a nice tandem this season.

[Nasty Mcgahee]

2 horrible showings? umm the first game (we won) he had 1 run for 16 yards...finished the game with 20 yards...he didnt even play the whole game, a quarter if that...so i see no reason to worry, last night, i saw him break 1 up the middle for 9-10 yards...once again, he didnt play the entire game, you cant expect a guy to rush for 100 yards in a quarter, so i think when it comes to the regular season, he'll do fine

He had 1 run for 16 yards, and ended with 20 on 4 carries, that means he got 4 yards on the next 3 carries... thats great.

I have been watching Willis since his college days. I watched him in Buffalo (thanks to the Ticket) and I have been playing close attention in Baltimore. Let me tell you that what your seeing isn't just because its preseason, its Willis. Like Willis, I used to blame the Bills O line too, but guess what, the Bills upgraded thier Oline and ours has been downgraded. Willis is still playing behind a below average O line and he is still playing like crap. He is slow to find holes and dances in the backfield too much. He's getting better at picking up the blitz, though still not great, and routinely forgets his routes when lining up as a receiver, no to mention he's afraid to catch the ball in the middle of the field.

Willis talks a lot, and he only had one good season in Buffalo, but it wasn't because he was busting off long runs, its because he was running 35-40 sometimes 45 times a game. If you can't get 100 yards touching the ball that many times then you shouldn't be in the NFL.

Willis will have some good games, he'll have some great games, but mostly he will have poor games and make you wonder what all the hype is about. He'll break a thousand because thats not too hard in today's NFL, but he will be hard pressed to break 1200 this year.

It's disappointing to me because I am or at least was a big fan of this guy, and I thought with a new team he would be re energized but he's the same old Willis. He is not a running back that will hit a whole as soon as it opens up, it takes him a second maybe two to hit it and by that time its already closing up. Most of his good runs will come from defensive meltdowns from other teams... and he has huge games against the Jets.

I would like to see Willis light up the league this year but it looks like more of the same from this cat.

[Ravensfanspls]

If you want him to do good Nasty mcgahee... why are you downing him i think you are here to make him look bad even if he WAS wat you say he is he is better then jamal so we are happy about that if you are such a big fan of his why dont you give him a damn chance its PRE SEASON to see who makes the team.. im so sick of all this mcgahee talk he is good he will be good

[Living_the_Life]

Seems like a lot of kids on this board have nothing better to do than to act as football analysts and breakdown PRE-SEASON action and act as if it means something for the proven stars of this league. It's comical, but sad.

[Nasty Mcgahee]

If you want him to do good Nasty mcgahee... why are you downing him i think you are here to make him look bad even if he WAS wat you say he is he is better then jamal so we are happy about that if you are such a big fan of his why dont you give him a damn chance its PRE SEASON to see who makes the team.. im so sick of all this mcgahee talk he is good he will be good

First of all, I do like Willis. But there are a lot of you on this board that seem to think that he is an elite back. I thought that too. At the beginning of every season I would say This is Willis' breakout year, his knee is finally 100 percent, he's gonna show that burst he had at the U. And every year he let me down, but I would write it off, blaming everybody but Willis. Well, every thing around Willis is the different, but yet his abilities are the same. I am starting to believe that he is not ever going to be what he was at the U. Your going to believe what you want, but at the end of the season I will be here for to say I told you so. I really am hoping that Willis finally breaks out, but I truly can't find it in my heart to believe that it will happen. And, my screen name, nasty, because he used to have a nasty stiff arm, he seems to have lost that too.

I hope he runs all over the Bills when we go to Buffalo to play them, but it will be tough playing a defense that knows how you work.

[Nasty Mcgahee]

Seems like a lot of kids on this board have nothing better to do than to act as football analysts and breakdown PRE-SEASON action and act as if it means something for the proven stars of this league. It's comical, but sad.

Proven stars? Willis has yet to prove himself, and every year I say its gonna be this year, and it never happens. Hey, we should know, Willis needed a mere 50 yard game to break 100 yards in the Bills last game of the season. They played us and Willis got a great 25 yards. But everyone seems to forget that game when Willis became our RB.

[Slick]

I think 2 straight 1000+ yard seasons and a 14-game 950+ yd season after his collegiate injury gives him some star cred, especially because i never really thought very highly of the bills o-line. to say the revans o-line is below average is ludicrous considering they aloowed one of the fewest sack totals in the league last year and gave Jamal another 1000 yd season. when the actual season comes around and our starters are playing like they MEAN it....THEN and ONLY then can we begin truly speculating about wether Willis was worth the pickup.

im not saying now, nor have i ever said, that willis is an elite top running back of the league. And if you listened to him in that press conference, he wasnt exactly saying it either. He said hes one of the top running backs, if not the best, because thats the mindset you need (or at least he needs) to perform at HIS highest level. and wether that level is high enough for our standards or not, only time will tell if his thoughts become reality

[PuppyPuncher]

You all forgot about Ogden.

[Nasty Mcgahee]

I think 2 straight 1000+ yard seasons and a 14-game 950+ yd season after his collegiate injury gives him some star cred, especially because i never really thought very highly of the bills o-line. to say the revans o-line is below average is ludicrous considering they aloowed one of the fewest sack totals in the league last year and gave Jamal another 1000 yd season. when the actual season comes around and our starters are playing like they MEAN it....THEN and ONLY then can we begin truly speculating about wether Willis was worth the pickup.

im not saying now, nor have i ever said, that willis is an elite top running back of the league. And if you listened to him in that press conference, he wasnt exactly saying it either. He said hes one of the top running backs, if not the best, because thats the mindset you need (or at least he needs) to perform at HIS highest level. and wether that level is high enough for our standards or not, only time will tell if his thoughts become reality

2 straight 1000 yard seasons is nothing in todays NFL, and to make it even less Mcgahee was getting 30 + carries a game. Sure the season before last he had 1100 yards but his YPC was only 3.8

[Slick]

2 straight 1000 yard seasons is nothing in todays NFL, and to make it even less Mcgahee was getting 30 + carries a game. Sure the season before last he had 1100 yards but his YPC was only 3.8

even so i dont remember the bills o-line being much of a wall to run behind so with that nasty injury and poor running lanes id say a 3.8 isnt that bad. plus like puppy said, we still dont have ogden, that big mountain of a man alone will give willis some help for the running game.

[PuppyPuncher]

Buffalo's O-Line didn't give up all those sacks! J.P. Losman just wanted to show how tough he was by letting defenders hit him while in the pocket. Truly an incredibly underrated o-line.

[Twist of Lemon]

I think McGahee can do well its just up to him to make better reads on where to run through, but when he gets a nice hole from the O-Line hes good to go. I'm reserving judgment on McGahee till the regular season to be safe, heck I wont even order a McGahee jersey till the mid way point just to make sure lol

[Nasty Mcgahee]

even so i dont remember the bills o-line being much of a wall to run behind so with that nasty injury and poor running lanes id say a 3.8 isnt that bad. plus like puppy said, we still dont have ogden, that big mountain of a man alone will give willis some help for the running game.

Good, blame buffalo's O line for Mcgahee ineptitude, I did it for so many years. But thats fine, lets hope he does better this week, and then in the regular season because it appears like its gonna be the same old Willis, and I am hoping that he takes the next step.

[Slick]

Good, blame buffalo's O line for Mcgahee ineptitude, I did it for so many years. But thats fine, lets hope he does better this week, and then in the regular season because it appears like its gonna be the same old Willis, and I am hoping that he takes the next step.

I'm just saying i think our O-line is much better and will offer more opportunities for big gains. I'm not gonna lie, I haven't followed willis throughout hiss career in depth or anything, as you say you have, but I'm not going to discredit him before hes given a chance in the regular season.

[Ed_Reed20]

He had 1 run for 16 yards, and ended with 20 on 4 carries, that means he got 4 yards on the next 3 carries... thats great.

I have been watching Willis since his college days. I watched him in Buffalo (thanks to the Ticket) and I have been playing close attention in Baltimore. Let me tell you that what your seeing isn't just because its preseason, its Willis. Like Willis, I used to blame the Bills O line too, but guess what, the Bills upgraded thier Oline and ours has been downgraded. Willis is still playing behind a below average O line and he is still playing like crap. He is slow to find holes and dances in the backfield too much. He's getting better at picking up the blitz, though still not great, and routinely forgets his routes when lining up as a receiver, no to mention he's afraid to catch the ball in the middle of the field.

Willis talks a lot, and he only had one good season in Buffalo, but it wasn't because he was busting off long runs, its because he was running 35-40 sometimes 45 times a game. If you can't get 100 yards touching the ball that many times then you shouldn't be in the NFL.

Willis will have some good games, he'll have some great games, but mostly he will have poor games and make you wonder what all the hype is about. He'll break a thousand because thats not too hard in today's NFL, but he will be hard pressed to break 1200 this year.

It's disappointing to me because I am or at least was a big fan of this guy, and I thought with a new team he would be re energized but he's the same old Willis. He is not a running back that will hit a whole as soon as it opens up, it takes him a second maybe two to hit it and by that time its already closing up. Most of his good runs will come from defensive meltdowns from other teams... and he has huge games against the Jets.

I would like to see Willis light up the league this year but it looks like more of the same from this cat.

You sound like you know what your talking about but you are wrong in a few things you said. The Bills only upgraded their line only this year. Last year, they had one of the worst lines in the league as far as run-blocking. The Ravens on the other hand have upgraded their line. Picking up, Grubbs, Yanda and Gaither no only help the line in youth but overall ability. Those players are athletic and can open the holes McGahee needs. Remember against the Eagles on McGahee's long run? Gaither made the key block because he can move well laterally. On, Sunday night, Gaither continued to make good blocks but every one else didn't do much when he ran the ball. McGahee doesn't hit blocks as quick as other backs but when the holes are there, he hits them hard.

[DaBills]

Be warned, unless Willis has decided to care this year. Which he very well could with the new environment you have yourselves and average at best back, who tries when he has personal incentive, and enjoys watching the defense otherwise. We shall see, but every year Bills fans went into the year hoping it'd be the year he finally decides to step up his game, and it only diminished as time went on.

[dsizzle007]

i'd just like to point out something alittle significant you might want to look at before you start to make serious assumptions about willis's future with us. granted willis hasnt shown any sign of greatness: ... just yet. but 2 things you need to think about. thats the fact that it is preseason and the fact that the ravens as a team, are still running the same "jamal based" runs that they were running last year. billick as well as our Ocord. has stated, any smart well organized team wont exploit themselves in the preseason and show what they will be about as an offense. this preseaon is about getting willis familiar with our offense, and our "schemes" and our terminolgy of our plays. lets give the ravens some credit here, this organization is amazing on many levels. we areant going to expose ourselves and our new system right off the tops... secondly, willis adds ALOT of other aspects to our game, not just from the run. look at our last 2 games, we'll... not philly, they owned us hands down, and we performed horribly as a whole, with stupid mistakes, but willis's game against the eagles. you can see the respect he gets (in our offense) already, way more attention then jamal ever got. he opens up a HELL of alot of options in our offense, and brings enough respect from other teams, to be able to let us exploit our passing game in different ways.

i personally, am totally torn on my opinion on "if" he will be an explosive amazing back for us. i am still wishing for the best in willis. but i think we should save our assumptions on how he will do here , in baltimore, with our offense, using new plays ( that we havent even touched on yet in games), a new, more athletic , and skilled line then buffalo had, and plenty of more "reps" in game situations: until i view him in regular season games. lets give him a serious chance, more then the 10 reps he has had with our offense, here with his new team.

[DaBills]

And to let you all know, I don't know how known this fact is.. but well. McGahee is no longer with us because he CAN'T catch out of the backfield consistently. Hence us having to use yet another 1st rounder on a running back, Marshawn Lynch.

[Raven07]

why do Fans from other teams (like the Bills) join our Forum??????......just wondering cuz it just seems as though Bills Fans are joining here, just to Talk about McGahee and the negatives.....this is by far not to put other team fans down in any way, shape or form, it just something that seems odd to me is all.... he WILL be a force for us this year and more years to come, just wait and see

[DaBills]

why do Fans from other teams (like the Bills) join our Forum??????......just wondering cuz it just seems as though Bills Fans are joining here, just to Talk about McGahee and the negatives.....this is by far not to put other team fans down in any way, shape or form, it just something that seems odd to me is all.... he WILL be a force for us this year and more years to come, just wait and see

I'm here to discuss with Ravens fans, yes it's obvious I'm here because of McGahee, but if you read more then the few of my posts you'll realize I'm here to discuss football. And maybe McGahee will be, I hope he is I'll never wish ill-will on anyone (except Michael Vick..).

[Raven07]

haha vick.....i saw your other posts, i was just wondering, (hince why i said it b4)

[Nasty Mcgahee]

And to let you all know, I don't know how known this fact is.. but well. McGahee is no longer with us because he CAN'T catch out of the backfield consistently. Hence us having to use yet another 1st rounder on a running back, Marshawn Lynch.

I hate to admit it but that is absolutely correct. Everytime the ball was thrown to willis I gasped because, even when wide open, he always seemed to injure himself catching the ball. The Bills had to put Anthony Thomas in on 3rd downs because willis couldn't remember his routes, or catch.

Hopefully this season he spends more time in the film room and studies his playbook.

[T-Ravenous]

I have a feeling ravens fans will be experiencing the same feelings bills fans did last year... consistent short runs... i think mcgahee had one big run last year, something like a 60 yard touchdown... after which he went to the sidelines and puked his guts out.

As a ravens fan, i wouldn't expect many runs over 10 yards this season, let alone 20 yard runs... 2 maybe 3 on the year, but mostly mcgahee will still probably rip his 3.8 ypc... which is pretty sad considering he is the self-proclaimed best back in the NFL. I have a feeling that pretty soon, he will be an early retirement case and the next place we will see him is on Dancing with the Stars...

[T-Ravenous]

I hate to admit it but that is absolutely correct. Everytime the ball was thrown to willis I gasped because, even when wide open, he always seemed to injure himself catching the ball. The Bills had to put Anthony Thomas in on 3rd downs because willis couldn't remember his routes, or catch.

Hopefully this season he spends more time in the film room and studies his playbook.

It's sad that mcgahee can't really catch the ball too well... and just because he is a has-been... (hasn't done crap since college) everyone here is hyping him up to be the next LT...

[Raven07]

hmmmm seems to me like he's doing pretty well......just watch the Steve McNair Interview from todays (8-22-07) practice...... Steve says that McGahee is a good recieve out of the Back field...please let me know when we made ANY reference to McGahee being the next L.T. .......by all means let me know cuz i havent heard him being compared to LT on here at all...... we (us Raven fans) are just hoping that he will be a good running back for us...im pretty dang sure that other fans from other NFL teams are doing the same thing we are about their Running backs........hoping for not only a great year, but a great Career from here on out....