first time out of the top 5 mock

[JoeyFlex5]

1. tennessee - Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss. 

bpa, they have 1 very good tackle, and the other side could definitel use some improvement, they have a qb who can make great use of protection on the exterior, easy pick here for me. 

 

2. cleveland - Joey Bosa, edge, Ohio St. 

again, bpa. they have one of the worst pass rushes in the nfl and i dont think theyre moving on from manziel yet, they have given every indication that they plan on canning pettine and the FO has supported johnny, i dont think it happens yet.. 

 

3. san diego - a'shawn robinson, DT/NT, Bama. 

low key guy around here, he seems to have gotten the attention that should be expected, can play all 3 spots in a 3-4, anchors, and is physically dominant, a real bully, he can change the culture of softness in SD and makes a case for BPA here. 

 

4. dallas - jaylon smith, LB, ND. 

flashy pick at a generally non-flashy position, sean lee cant stay on the field, and i cant think of a better replacement, jaylon smith, given that he is in the right defense, very well could be the best LB in the league, i believe jerry starts building his defense around this guy right here 

 

5. SF - Paxton Lynch, Memphis 

i dont know what SF thinks of the kid, and they very well could prefer the hometown kid goff who i believe has the higher ceiling but bigger bust factor, its all preference to them, i think they go qb here though, no brainer to me. 

 

6 Jax - Vernon Hargreaves, Florida.

i get the feeling that jax likes florida grads, their main priority is getting the fans hyped, no cheaper way than to recruit the fan favorites from the local university, fowler and hargreaves back to back is a formidable 2 drafts and reason for excitement, good value too. 

 

7, Miami - Jalen Ramsey, DB, FSU. 

they could use help in alot of spots, they could go stanley here, myles jack, but i think they take the flashiest option possible and hope to continue to breed a culture of nastiness after signing suh. 

 

8. Baltimore - Ronnie Stanley, OT, ND. 

treadwell, buckner, ogbah, jack, all real options here, i think stanley falling to us at 8 is a dream come true, if stanley isnt here i think treadwell becomes our guy. 

 

ROUND2: 

Tyler Boyd, WR, Pitt. 

match made in heaven, we need a guy like this, he is joes favorite kind of target, he is refined and a day 1 starter, and his character concerns are overblown, engram knows him better than anyone in the nfl, it seems like destiny IF he continues to float in the 30-40 range, if not i still think we go wr here with doctson or thomas or coleman or davis if any them fall. 

 

ROUND3: 

Carl Lawson, Edge, Auburn. 

imo the best 3-4 OLB in the class, true fit, gets to the qb as well as anyone, plays the run, has the size, instincts, hands, quickness, burst, everything. signs point to him declaring.

 

ROUND4: 

Joe Schobert, Edge, Wiconsin. 

smart and refined guy, good instincts, plays physical, is good at deciding when to attack and when to stay home, knows how to avoid the pile and doesnt get washed out of the play often, isnt too aggressive but doesnt make many mistakes, when given a window he rarely fails in the pass rush, more of a LB than a pass rusher but could certainly be good at both wth some work, sleeper guy for me 

 

Eddie Jackson, DB, Bama. 

classic ozzie pick, bama guy, high character, high iq, versatile, hasnt been the flashiest player on a star studded defense but with a healthy defense this guy could be what we need to round it out, a nice physical slot corner and a nice aggressive nickel safety.  

 

Chris Jones, DE, Miss ST. 

another classic ozzie pick, he brings competition as a 5-tech and some aggression and violence but still is athletic enough to make some plays. good replacement for canty down the road and when something inevitably goes wrong on our DL he makes a nice piece, carl davis and timmy jernigan are both known to be out of shape and have some character conerns, some competition can keep them on their toes. 

 

Kenyan Drake, swiss army knife RB, Bama. 

the guy is versatile, hes a ball player, and is a reliable and sturdy guy, he can line up at wr or rb, he can return, high character and high motor guy, probably a guy id imagine ozzie thinks very highly of after watching him quietly produce as a key contributor at alabama for 3 years. bias pick for me, always been a fan of the guy. 

 

 

not gonna bother with the rest

 

 

[GrimCoconut]

I definitely agree with the first two picks. If Stanley is there and Hargreaves is gone I think he'll be very likely to be the pick. I think one of Stanley or Tunsil will be available with our selection. If Hargreaves is gone I think we'll be very likely to take Stanley

I was going to put Eddie Jackson in my mock so I obviously agree with your inclusion of him in yours. I do think Ozzie will address CB earlier than you did. I like Boyd a lot but I can see Ozzie selecting a CB like Eli Apple ahead of him or even taking Ngakoue because of the need for a pass rusher.

Edit: Thinking about it more I think it's even more likely we address CB and pass rusher early. Investing nothing into either position for years and then investing just a fourth round pick into another hybrid defensive back is a good way to get fired.

I see why you double-downed on pass rusher and Steve wanted a pass rusher last year and only got Smith. Ozzie will have a lot of explaining to do if he doesn't draft a CB and pass rusher in the top 3 rounds and we continue to need help in those areas. At least that's how I see it

Edited December 28, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[PurpleCity5]

I like Carl Lawson a lot and put him in the 2nd round in my mock but I can see him dropping to the 3rd with the injury concerns, certainly possible. I'm thinking if Hargreaves is gone we go OT as well, thats unless Tunsil is there. After that in the 2nd round I think we go with a pass rusher, but if none are good enough to be the pick then I think we settle with a WR.

[January J]

I definitely agree with the first two picks. If Stanley is there and Hargreaves is gone I think he'll be very likely to be the pick. I think one of Stanley or Tunsil will be available with our selection. If Hargreaves is gone I think we'll be very likely to take Stanley

I was going to put Eddie Jackson in my mock so I obviously agree with your inclusion of him in yours. I do think Ozzie will address CB earlier than you did. I like Boyd a lot but I can see Ozzie selecting a CB like Eli Apple ahead of him or even taking Ngakoue because of the need for a pass rusher.

Edit: Thinking about it more I think it's even more likely we address CB and pass rusher early. Investing nothing into either position for years and then investing just a fourth round pick into another hybrid defensive back is a good way to get fired.

I see why you double-downed on pass rusher and Steve wanted a pass rusher last year and only got Smith. Ozzie will have a lot of explaining to do if he doesn't draft a CB and pass rusher in the top 3 rounds and we continue to need help in those areas. At least that's how I see it

exactly. No way they don't address the pass rush or secondary in the first 3 rounds. I expect both to be addressed atleast before round 3. Maybe 1 and 2 with a receiver in the third. Bisciotti will be banging his fists. Edited December 28, 2015 by January J

[JoeyFlex5]

I just had a hard time finding a value at cb at around 39, I feel like most of the real value guys will be gone by then including Eli Apple who I think ends up going in the first. And I want ngakoue as well But I still don't know if Ozzie views him as highly as we do

[GrimCoconut]

I just had a hard time finding a value at cb at around 39, I feel like most of the real value guys will be gone by then including Eli Apple who I think ends up going in the first. And I want ngakoue as well But I still don't know if Ozzie views him as highly as we do

Yeah I don't disagree but I think Ozzie will feel pressure to address at least one position in the second if he doesn't address it in the first. It really all depends on our first pick and what we do with it.

[JoeyFlex5]

as far as needs go, when does ozzie aggressively address the most dire needs via the draft? when he addresses needs he typically worries about the value first(although what he considers "value" has turned out to be not very good players) 

 

maybe he feels the pressure but he also isnt ignoring needs with this draft by any means. i believe that LT is by far our biggest need and will make the biggest difference for the long term, i think pass rush is the 2nd on the list but i actually think wr is a bigger need than secondary. 

[GrimCoconut]

as far as needs go, when does ozzie aggressively address the most dire needs via the draft? when he addresses needs he typically worries about the value first(although what he considers "value" has turned out to be not very good players) 

 

maybe he feels the pressure but he also isnt ignoring needs with this draft by any means. i believe that LT is by far our biggest need and will make the biggest difference for the long term, i think pass rush is the 2nd on the list but i actually think wr is a bigger need than secondary. 

He's done is before with Jimmy Smith as one example. We also needed a WR after losing Torrey and we took Perriman over other players. It's a common misconception that Ozzie is strictly BPA. He goes after BPA at position of need. If player X is ranked slightly lower than player S, then they will draft player X over S if X fills a greater need than S. 

 

Yeah, we need a pass rusher more than a CB, but to ignore the position again early would be a bit traumatic for Ozzie. He does tend to address needs in FA, but how will he fix the pass rush and CB in FA? CB & pass rusher typically command money if they're good. We don't exactly have a ton of that. If anything, Ozzie could fix the LT situation with a free agent over drafting one. It really does depend on how our FA shakes out, but I can't see us investing big money into pass rusher again when we have Suggs and Dumervil on the payroll. This means that pass rusher will certainly be a major area of emphasis and CB will also be important because I can't see us throwing big money at the position after investing into Webb & Smith. 

 

Yes, we invested into Monroe but he looks like he's on the way out and KO is a free agent. It may be more likely we throw our FA money into OL and worry about pass rusher & CB in the draft.

[JoeyFlex5]

He's done is before with Jimmy Smith as one example. We also needed a WR after losing Torrey and we took Perriman over other players. It's a common misconception that Ozzie is strictly BPA. He goes after BPA at position of need. If player X is ranked slightly lower than player S, then they will draft player X over S if X fills a greater need than S. 

 

Yeah, we need a pass rusher more than a CB, but to ignore the position again early would be a bit traumatic for Ozzie. He does tend to address needs in FA, but how will he fix the pass rush and CB in FA? CB & pass rusher typically command money if they're good. We don't exactly have a ton of that. If anything, Ozzie could fix the LT situation with a free agent over drafting one. It really does depend on how our FA shakes out, but I can't see us investing big money into pass rusher again when we have Suggs and Dumervil on the payroll. This means that pass rusher will certainly be a major area of emphasis and CB will also be important because I can't see us throwing big money at the position after investing into Webb & Smith. 

 

Yes, we invested into Monroe but he looks like he's on the way out and KO is a free agent. It may be more likely we throw our FA money into OL and worry about pass rusher & CB in the draft.

i never said ozzie goes strictly bpa, i was saying he considers the value when making a pick, so if he has multiple players at position of need, i believe he would take the better/safer prospect over the bigger need, in that case, boyd over some secondary/edge rushers, and stanley over hargreaves or ramsey. 

 

and with jimmy smith, he was far and away the best player, his character concerns was a blessing for us because he had no business falling as far as he did to us, cb just happened to be the biggest hole on the team at the time.

[GrimCoconut]

i never said ozzie goes strictly bpa, i was saying he considers the value when making a pick, so if he has multiple players at position of need, i believe he would take the better/safer prospect over the bigger need, in that case, boyd over some secondary/edge rushers, and stanley over hargreaves or ramsey.

and with jimmy smith, he was far and away the best player, his character concerns was a blessing for us because he had no business falling as far as he did to us, cb just happened to be the biggest hole on the team at the time.

I love Jimmy but Wilkerson was also highly rated and went a little after Jimmy, so that was the comparison I made. I do agree, however, that he's an excellent player when available.

[zuilyas]

Does Boyd really have a chance to slip to the 2nd round?

[Inqui]

Does Boyd really have a chance to slip to the 2nd round?

Keenan Allen fell to the third an an absolutely diabolical draft class. This year's class isn't amazing, but Boyd's lack of blazing top-end speed (and his DUI may or may not hurt his stock, although it feels like it was so long ago Fred Flinstone was his passenger) could see him take a similar fall.

[ravensnick]

I agree with the Stanley pick. Hard to trust Monroe and LT is too valuable of a position to leave up to chance. 

[zuilyas]

Keenan Allen fell to the third an an absolutely diabolical draft class. This year's class isn't amazing, but Boyd's lack of blazing top-end speed (and his DUI may or may not hurt his stock, although it feels like it was so long ago Fred Flinstone was his passenger) could see him take a similar fall.

Good point. If he slips to us, I hope Ozzie doesn't hesitate at all.

[JoeyFlex5]

I love Jimmy but Wilkerson was also highly rated and went a little after Jimmy, so that was the comparison I made. I do agree, however, that he's an excellent player when available.

I love Wilkerson but at the same time... I'd take a healthy Jimmy Smith over any 5tech not named watt. Unfortunately we don't have a healthy Jimmy Smith lol

[Mt. Crushmore]

I think SD would be making a big mistake at No. 3 if they took Robinson 

[JoeyFlex5]

I think SD would be making a big mistake at No. 3 if they took Robinson

idk about that, I think he's a top 10 guy, is he top 5 though? Its possible, dominant nose tackles are not easy to find and you can't have an upper tier 3-4 without one, and he is the best NT prospect I've seen since Phil Taylor, and rumor has it that sd desperately wants to upgrade the DL and OL, I think in this scenario it would come down to sd wanting a bigger splash pick by taking a guy who could basically become the identity of the defense

[Winchester]

I like ravens picks here. And Robinson could blow up the combine and be projected as the next Aaron Donald. He could very well be drafted top5!! Especially if he runs 4.85 or better with his power. Plays like Geno Atkins.

[GrimCoconut]

I like ravens picks here. And Robinson could blow up the combine and be projected as the next Aaron Donald. He could very well be drafted top5!! Especially if he runs 4.85 or better with his power. Plays like Geno Atkins.

I completely agree. I know we're good at DL and people tend to overrate prospects we need but Robinson has played fantastic and was very very dominant. I wouldn't even be surprised if we took him but I'd much rather go elsewhere.

[Drew P]

Dallas is fine at LB. Their secondary is where the opportunity is on D. The offense after Dez and Witten is awful. Must address those two areas early

[GrimCoconut]

Dallas is fine at LB. Their secondary is where the opportunity is on D. The offense after Dez and Witten is awful. Must address those two areas early

McClain is a free agent, they lost a few LB last year, and Sean Lee is always hurt

[52520Andrew]

idk about that, I think he's a top 10 guy, is he top 5 though? Its possible, dominant nose tackles are not easy to find and you can't have an upper tier 3-4 without one, and he is the best NT prospect I've seen since Phil Taylor, and rumor has it that sd desperately wants to upgrade the DL and OL, I think in this scenario it would come down to sd wanting a bigger splash pick by taking a guy who could basically become the identity of the defense

Good nose tackles are always fun to have, especially in a 3-4 defense but they have a tendancy to fall on draft pay. Partly because true nose tackles are only being looked for by 3-4 teams and also because it isn't a flashy position. With that said, they have gone high before like Marcel Dareus to the Bills at #3. Not sure Robinson is at that level but he could impress in these playoff games and jump up pretty high.

[JoeyFlex5]

McClain is a free agent, they lost a few LB last year, and Sean Lee is always hurt

yeah, there are tons of signs pointing to dallas targeting jack or smith. plus it just smells like a jerry pick, flashy player in the top 5 who is going to give fans some excitement, someone for the media to drool over for the next 5 years. 

 

 

Good nose tackles are always fun to have, especially in a 3-4 defense but they have a tendancy to fall on draft pay. Partly because true nose tackles are only being looked for by 3-4 teams and also because it isn't a flashy position. With that said, they have gone high before like Marcel Dareus to the Bills at #3. Not sure Robinson is at that level but he could impress in these playoff games and jump up pretty high.

this is pretty much my reasoning lol, i do think robinson is a special guy, i think he can be on a vince wilfork level, and if you were told a player is the next vince wilford, would you call him a reach at 3rd? i know you cant predict how he will pan out but i think he can be that good. 

[Drew P]

McClain is a free agent, they lost a few LB last year, and Sean Lee is always hurt

I can't see them passing on a guy like Treadwell especially after that bowl game display

[GrimCoconut]

I can't see them passing on a guy like Treadwell especially after that bowl game display

They could go in many directions. Pass rusher, CB, WR, QB are all likely