What do we do with all these RB's?

[Cillmatic]

Forsett, Buck, LT and West. Those are the Runningbacks we have right now. The sudden awakening of Buck and West kinda make Forsett the odd men out. Obviously we can't use four RB's. So who do we move? We do we keep? Who's the #1 back?

[redrum52]

I wouldn't trust West and Forsett is probably gone in a year anyway. Is West even signed past this season?

[bMore Heathen]

Forsett, Buck, LT and West. Those are the Runningbacks we have right now. The sudden awakening of Buck and West kinda make Forsett the odd men out. Obviously we can't use four RB's. So who do we move? We do we keep? Who's the #1 back?

Of the 3, LT has shown the least. He is still cheap, but I think the team likes Forsett's leadership too much to cut him. We wouldn't even save that much. I would drop LT

[rmw10]

A lot of teams carry 4 and I don't see why we couldn't if we want to keep all of them.  Forsett could find himself as the odd man out but it's well known that the organization places a very strong value on his leadership.

[balfan23]

I wouldn't trust West and Forsett is probably gone in a year anyway. Is West even signed past this season?

No, he is not. However, he is an exclusive rights FA, so he'll be able to be tendered at league minimum, if we want him. So - if we want him, he'll be ours and he'll be cheap. 

[redrum52]

Of the 3, LT has shown the least. He is still cheap, but I think the team likes Forsett's leadership too much to cut him. We wouldn't even save that much. I would drop LT

 

LT was looking much improved in the pre season and then got IR'ed.  There's no way I'd cut him.  He was running with POWER.

 

 

No, he is not. However, he is an exclusive rights FA, so he'll be able to be tendered at league minimum, if we want him. So - if we want him, he'll be ours and he'll be cheap. 

Thanks.  I don't see a reason to get rid of him then.  I'm pretty sure he was on the Ravens watch list anyway, when he was drafted.

[Deflated Football]

Cut LT and keep West, Buck and Forsett and call it a day.

[balfan23]

Of the 3, LT has shown the least. He is still cheap, but I think the team likes Forsett's leadership too much to cut him. We wouldn't even save that much. I would drop LT

Forsett would be $2.3M off of our cap. 

 

They may value his leadership and I do think cutting him would be a bit of a risk ... but it is hard to say it definitely won't happen. We're going to need money and there won't be many places to go to find it. 

[rmw10]

Forsett would be $2.3M off of our cap. 

 

They may value his leadership and I do think cutting him would be a bit of a risk ... but it is hard to say it definitely won't happen. We're going to need money and there won't be many places to go to find it. 

 

Yeah I don't think it's forgone that Forsett is staying or anything, but it does seem that he has some value in a very young locker room.  The money is the obvious kicker as to why he could find himself out of a job here.

[January J]

Forsett, Buck, LT and West. Those are the Runningbacks we have right now. The sudden awakening of Buck and West kinda make Forsett the odd men out. Obviously we can't use four RB's. So who do we move? We do we keep? Who's the #1 back?

you consider forsett that odd man out of that group? West hadn't shown much and LT has been injured the past two years....

[terrynjulia03]

Forsett and his 2.3M is the odd man out. Sorry, about time we started cutting ties with aging guys costing too much for production.

[Cillmatic]

you consider forsett that odd man out of that group? West hadn't shown much and LT has been injured the past two years....

Forsett has a cap hit. We'd save $2 million by cutting him and our current starting RB(buck) is very good. That's why I think he's the odd man out.

[January J]

Forsett has a cap hit. We'd save $2 million by cutting him and our current starting RB(buck) is very good. That's why I think he's the odd man out.

i just don't think buck is ready to carry the load yet. He's getting there...but he needs one more year. Next season will be more of a duo between him and forsett. Justin's important to what we will be doing next year and We need His leadership. I just think it's a little premature to say we are ready to move on without him and if we did it could end up coming back to bite us like the wr position this year. He didn't have a fantastic year but he wasn't getting much help from the o line or the passing game , and got injured as soon as he was starting to warm up.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Forsett, Buck, LT and West. Those are the Runningbacks we have right now. The sudden awakening of Buck and West kinda make Forsett the odd men out. Obviously we can't use four RB's. So who do we move? We do we keep? Who's the #1 back?

I think it should be Forsett, Buck and West all 3 have looked good. Just my opinion but I think LT is the odd man out.

[terrynjulia03]

i just don't think buck is ready to carry the load yet. He's getting there...but he needs one more year. Next season will be more of a duo between him and forsett. Justin's important to what we will be doing next year and We need His leadership. I just think it's a little premature to say we are ready to move on without him and if we did it could end up coming back to bite us like the wr position this year. He didn't have a fantastic year but he wasn't getting much help from the o line or the passing game , and got injured as soon as he was starting to warm up.

Plenty of rookies are starters, and certainly by their second year. This isnt like corner where the transition to the NFL speed takes a bit. RB is a dime a dozen position. 2.3M is a relief we could use. Buck, Tali and West will be just fine.

[Purple_City39]

Forsett and Allen offer a very similar style.  Both have good vision, can block well, are elusive, and can catch out the backfield.  Forsett saves a strapped team a few more million than Allen and is much older by RB standards.

 

LT is the power running and West is the medium between Allen and LT.  I think Forsett is let go, which wouldn't be bad for him as another team would pick him up, and the other 3 are the Ravens RBs in 2016.

[GrimCoconut]

Can one of them play CB, S, LT, or pass rusher? 

[Wildabeast88]

Of the 3, LT has shown the least. He is still cheap, but I think the team likes Forsett's leadership too much to cut him. We wouldn't even save that much. I would drop LT

I agree we need the leadership and he is still playing well I probably would say between West and LT but I don't know but Allen is safe period.

[Wildabeast88]

Forsett and his 2.3M is the odd man out. Sorry, about time we started cutting ties with aging guys costing too much for production.

Forsett is a bargain at that price look at DeMarco Murray that is overpaying for no production. Most starting RBs are making a whole lot more than 2.3 mil plus his leadership and teaching/coaching is worth he price teaching some of the young guys how to be a pro. We would be stupid to cut Forsett you have a rookie and 2 unproven guys unless we want to suck again next year we keep Forsett

[Wildabeast88]

Forsett and Allen offer a very similar style.  Both have good vision, can block well, are elusive, and can catch out the backfield.  Forsett saves a strapped team a few more million than Allen and is much older by RB standards.

 

LT is the power running and West is the medium between Allen and LT.  I think Forsett is let go, which wouldn't be bad for him as another team would pick him up, and the other 3 are the Ravens RBs in 2016.

He is older but has very few miles on him plus you can't put a price on leadership plus what has West done in his career LT has been in the league 2 years and on IR 2 times

[usmccharles]

 

LT was looking much improved in the pre season and then got IR'ed.  There's no way I'd cut him.  He was running with POWER.

 

 

LT did look good, but he is just like Camp, a lot of potential just cant stay healthy , thats two years in a row for LT. 

 

Forsett and his 2.3M is the odd man out. Sorry, about time we started cutting ties with aging guys costing too much for production.

Forsett has easily been worth the money.  you have to consider he has never been a full work load RB and he isnt your tpyical aged RB with a high amount of miles.  I wish i could find a stat that i saw recently, but it was something about going back to last year, Forsett was still in the top ten RBs in rushing yards to this year. 

[Purple_City39]

He is older but has very few miles on him plus you can't put a price on leadership plus what has West done in his career LT has been in the league 2 years and on IR 2 times

It's not that simple.  I'd agree with you normally but the Ravens are going to be financially strapped for cash this offseason.  West is auditioning for next season right now and he's looking good overall.  Just like almost everyone is convinced Mallet can be the backup after 1 game, it's fair to say West has had enough time to show he can at least be a backup.  

 

I'd rather keep Forsett but again, with the cap how it is, even if Joe restructures, this team will need that money to be competititve again and the drop off from Forsett to Allen isn't really a big one.  

[usmccharles]

It's not that simple.  I'd agree with you normally but the Ravens are going to be financially strapped for cash this offseason.  West is auditioning for next season right now and he's looking good overall.  Just like almost everyone is convinced Mallet can be the backup after 1 game, it's fair to say West has had enough time to show he can at least be a backup.  

 

I'd rather keep Forsett but again, with the cap how it is, even if Joe restructures, this team will need that money to be competititve again and the drop off from Forsett to Allen isn't really a big one.  

I dont really think the drop off from Forsett to Allen is the concern....Its the fact that after Allen we would have no one else that has proven anything.  Remember when we had Rice and Pierce in the backfield and Pierce looked awesome, imagine if we would of let Rice walk (not talking about anything other than production,dont want to start the contract arguments) and gave the raines to Pierce, he was terrible and hasnt done anything since.  Thats just an example, maybe a bad one but the premise is there. 

 

Also, i dont see the organization cutting him after one year into his deal to save us 2.3mill to rely on all unproven players.  I like Allen, but not with out Forsett back there.  I dont believe that 2.3 would be used better than what we could get out of Forset

[Purple_City39]

I dont really think the drop off from Forsett to Allen is the concern....Its the fact that after Allen we would have no one else that has proven anything.  Remember when we had Rice and Pierce in the backfield and Pierce looked awesome, imagine if we would of let Rice walk (not talking about anything other than production,dont want to start the contract arguments) and gave the raines to Pierce, he was terrible and hasnt done anything since.  Thats just an example, maybe a bad one but the premise is there. 

 

Also, i dont see the organization cutting him after one year into his deal to save us 2.3mill to rely on all unproven players.  I like Allen, but not with out Forsett back there.  I dont believe that 2.3 would be used better than what we could get out of Forset

The organization's history tells a different story.

 

The experience of the backup isn't a concern in Baltimore.  They did go into a season with the backup being a rookie Pierce in 2012, the backup being a rookie Allen in 2015 (after LT got hurt).  This is about a backup position.  Even at other positions, Baltimore has never hesitated to let a rookie be the backup.  In this example you're not talking about a rookie, you're talking about 3rd and 4th year players in Taliaferro and West.  You have to go into a season with unproven backups at many positions.  It's not possible to have all proven guys

 

I've liked Allen since Forsett got hurt so I like him without Forsett, but that's me.  I'm not saying Justin "should" be cut.  I'm saying with how cap strapped the team will be and the fact you just know they will want to make some free agent acquisitions, Forsett's cap savings will be one of the ones looked at heavily because of the 3 players behind him

[usmccharles]

The organization's history tells a different story.

 

The experience of the backup isn't a concern in Baltimore.  They did go into a season with the backup being a rookie Pierce in 2012, the backup being a rookie Allen in 2015 (after LT got hurt).  This is about a backup position.  Even at other positions, Baltimore has never hesitated to let a rookie be the backup.  In this example you're not talking about a rookie, you're talking about 3rd and 4th year players in Taliaferro and West.  You have to go into a season with unproven backups at many positions.  It's not possible to have all proven guys

 

I've liked Allen since Forsett got hurt so I like him without Forsett, but that's me.  I'm not saying Justin "should" be cut.  I'm saying with how cap strapped the team will be and the fact you just know they will want to make some free agent acquisitions, Forsett's cap savings will be one of the ones looked at heavily because of the 3 players behind him

Ah i see what your saying, kind of misread it in a sense.   I just think we keep him and have Allen play behind him one more year.  I know we go into the season with a lot of unproven guys at a position, but i think everyone would prefer not to when you have that choice and like i said i think hes worth the 2.3 mill.  That being said...wouldnt shock me the slightest if he is cut...

[January J]

Plenty of rookies are starters, and certainly by their second year. This isnt like corner where the transition to the NFL speed takes a bit. RB is a dime a dozen position. 2.3M is a relief we could use. Buck, Tali and West will be just fine.

I'm not saying that he COULDNT do it..I'm just sayin it would better serve him to have one more year alongside forsett splitting the reps instead of being behind him.

[ravens88]

I like Forsett but if Joe doesn't restructure/ get extension Forsett is easily cut due to his almost all base salary equaling 2.3m off the cap. With how high we draft this year we could grab a top back in the 2nd or 3rd round plus Allen has proven to be effective as well with a lot of promise. Personally I would like Forsett, West, Allen but I could see LT being kept over West.

[terrynjulia03]

Forsett is a bargain at that price look at DeMarco Murray that is overpaying for no production. Most starting RBs are making a whole lot more than 2.3 mil plus his leadership and teaching/coaching is worth he price teaching some of the young guys how to be a pro. We would be stupid to cut Forsett you have a rookie and 2 unproven guys unless we want to suck again next year we keep Forsett

Ummm 2.3m is the cap relief we would receive from cutting him. Not what he would cost as a cap hit next year, which I belive is about 6m. Gotta double check. Youre point is moot.

[terrynjulia03]

I'm not saying that he COULDNT do it..I'm just sayin it would better serve him to have one more year alongside forsett splitting the reps instead of being behind him.

Well agree to disagree, he'll be coming into his second year, with guys another year and 2 rotating through also with Tali and West. If they cant get it done than they shouldnt be in the league. RB isnt a hard job, no use spending money there.

[terrynjulia03]

I dont really think the drop off from Forsett to Allen is the concern....Its the fact that after Allen we would have no one else that has proven anything.  Remember when we had Rice and Pierce in the backfield and Pierce looked awesome, imagine if we would of let Rice walk (not talking about anything other than production,dont want to start the contract arguments) and gave the raines to Pierce, he was terrible and hasnt done anything since.  Thats just an example, maybe a bad one but the premise is there. 

 

Also, i dont see the organization cutting him after one year into his deal to save us 2.3mill to rely on all unproven players.  I like Allen, but not with out Forsett back there.  I dont believe that 2.3 would be used better than what we could get out of Forset

Until his injury he was having his 2nd worst year in ypc since hes been in the NFL. Sorry, but hes done. He's not a #1 3 down, or even 2 down back anymore. Dont care about total carries or any of that stuff. Father time effects the body regardless.

What team currently in the playoffs relies on a heavy running game with a monster back? Minn and AP, and KC with Charles but he got hurt and their still winning with no names. Well the Skins, but thats more a combo of a pathetic division and backing into the playoffs.

Sorry but 2.3m in cap relief can go to adding a WR, CB or passrusher that actually matters in todays NFL.