[News] Late For Work 12/21: Should Kamar Aiken Be Considered A 'Real' No. 1 Receiver?

[MissRay27]

Aiken has proved his worth to this current team. When are the Ravens going to break out Purple pants is my question? Just kidding. Two more games and this painful season will be over. Not cryin, just looking forward to the draft.

Why didn't Harbs sit Jernigan down for a few plays, and punish Buck for the rest of the game? No favoritism.

[J.O.14]

I've been screaming on this board forever that FLACCO is the reason our receivers look bad. It's just to bad that it took him to get injured to prove that. I've said it all along we've got serviceable receivers. Clausen for Flacco and no I'm not kidding--the price is right. Flacco can't read defenses and he is slow in going through his progressions and delivering the ball. He is no elite QB. Nuff Said.

The last 4 games haven't made you realize how important Flacco is to Baltimore? We were in every single game he was our QB this year. If our defense didn't crap their selves in a few games, we would have another 2 or 3 wins. We beat the dolphins if we have Flacco and give the cheifs a lot better game. If you have a WR like SSS, you throw him the ball. Aiken is playing great, but he wouldn't be doing what hes doing if SSS didn't get hurt. Flacco is our franchise QB. You can go build a team with Clausen all you want. I like our super bowl winning QB.

[RavensAllDay1987]

Lets put it all on the line next week and find a way to beat the Steelers. To have one of our worst seasons ever would not feel that bad if we are able to sweep Pitt and possibly keep them out the playoffs. I guy can wish right. lol

[boldtown]

aiken a #1 receiver? in any other scenario than the current one,then no. as far as the aggressiveness. the prduct that is supposely being field in today's nfl is trash. teams can't practice correctly and players get hurt more often. these are supposedly men taking the field but really, they whine like children. maybe the player thinks it's like flopping in the nba. the officiating is the worse and just about every official should be replaced. then there is the NFL itself; are the people in charge really doing anything? are they really "football" people? the game use to be tackle football, where the fight in the trenches earned every yard gained or lost. where the fan sat on the edge of the sit praying for a break out play while their gut was twisted with anxiety. now the game has been become trans formed by outsiders influence. the nfl is like a b movie. the more hype; the more likely it flops.

[jravens13]

I think Kamar is solid and he is getting open. Jeremy Butler also has ability. He just needs more opportunities. Butler is a Big Fast WR with long strides and good hands. These guys are developing, but Danny Brown had a tough game. I think we should find one other deep threat along with Perriman and that could be our 4Wide when SR retires. I say draft a CB and a Pass Rusher 1st and 2nd. We need Flacco to get healthy, and we need to stop the pass.

[ravens4life86]

No more Gold Pants. Thank you.

Stick with the current color schemes. My personal Favorites-Special Occasion "All Jet Blacks"

Then you have home Purple shirts, white pants, and road whites, and blk pants

All 3 of those are Masterpieces

[ravenwildman]

I understand the #1 receiver on the depth chart thing, but in truth it would be nice to have several WR's that could be #1 and rotate them at will between slots. That would make game planning against the Ravens very difficult, and avoid injuries due to wearing down. So yeah, Aiken absolutely fits that role, but let's not stop there! GO RAVENS!

[bmoraven]

Aiken can play, in the right system. He's Like a Mini Boldin. Please no gold. What happened to If it Aint Broke, Don't fix it...If anything, Go with the All Black

[GangofRavens]

The last 4 games haven't made you realize how important Flacco is to Baltimore? We were in every single game he was our QB this year. If our defense didn't crap their selves in a few games, we would have another 2 or 3 wins. We beat the dolphins if we have Flacco and give the cheifs a lot better game. If you have a WR like SSS, you throw him the ball. Aiken is playing great, but he wouldn't be doing what hes doing if SSS didn't get hurt. Flacco is our franchise QB. You can go build a team with Clausen all you want. I like our super bowl winning QB.

Whether it's a loss by a little or a lot it does not matter.  I can't argue against something no one could possibly know and that is that we would have beat the Dolphins, if Flacco had played.  I can argue the facts though.  Turnovers more than anything cost us yesterday's game.  Joe isn't immune to turnovers .  In addition, Jimmy has only been with the team for two weeks.  Joe's been her 8 years.

[verified]

aiken had his chance to win us ravens fans over early in the season. its a little to late now, its easy to play well when nothing matters and theres nothing to play for but stats but in the beginning of the season when every game mattered he folded. hes the best of a bad situation and if our gm knew how to draft a decent WR he wouldnt even be a 5 string WR

[bioLarzen]

BTW, was Harbaugh asked why most of our young players played so little when prior to the game he said the remaining games would be used to take a look at them? Brooks was used in 1 play, Carl Davis got 5 plays, Arthur Brown and Tray Walker didn't play a single down, and KLM wasn't even acivated... Is this indeed what Harbaugh meant?

[The Greek]

i was hard on aiken early in the season but will admit that he has stepped up and will make for a quality #3/4 receiver for us next season. front office must go into the off season as if perriman is not on this team and find that #1 receiver and if perriman is healthy than that is a bonus. fix the running game and hopefully a healthy flacco and a more stable trestman this offense could do great things

[verified]

wouldnt be surprised if jimmy smith sat out the rest of the season with a thigh injury hes soft nothing new here. if i was a #1 corner in the league and i knew the top WR was coming next game no thigh injury would stop me from playing him. but hey thats our "#1 corner" thats who we have to look forward to the next 5 seasons, Soft, ozzie needs to draft better

[ravens4life86]

Ravens dont have a no.1 WR...aiken Nooo.... Aiken is 4,Butler,Brown..

Where are the GAMECHANGERS???? No Julio Jones,OBJ,Antonio Browns etc.. Steelers and Packers have 2-3 no.1 WRs with both Nelson,Cobb, when healthy.. and now Ty Montgomery another swiss army knife Cobb type WR. Steelers..Brown, Bryant,Heyward Bey.(Thats 2 deep threats) to go with Brown..

Remember when..ww had Torrey,Jacoby(2deep threats) to go with Boldin,Pitta.

So Ravens are dead last as far a gamechangers on offense in their own division...

They better draft a WR or 2 this year..

[ravens4life86]

And you cant Bank on Sr...or Perriman... whos too say sr doesnt rip his acl next year or Perriman doesnt screw his knee up more..

WRs and Pass rush are a MUST this draft

[bioLarzen]

Lets put it all on the line next week and find a way to beat the Steelers. To have one of our worst seasons ever would not feel that bad if we are able to sweep Pitt and possibly keep them out the playoffs. I guy can wish right. lol

 

Man... I know anything can happen on a given Sunday in the NFL, but let's stay just a little on the ground... The Seahawks who obliterated us could hardly beat the steelers  - in Seattle... While no team could make 300 passing yards on the Broncos in the first 114 weeks, Roethlisberger dished them out a 380-yard outing last night... While we have an absolutely ramshackle O, they are almost on full strength (minus Bell)... While we keep sliding, they're on fire. 

 

While of course I would be overjoyed if we sank their playoff hope ship, let's be honest... it seems just about impossible now. We could get them Week#4 because they didn't have Roethlisberger and Vick made key mistakes - but this time we can't even rely on him...

 

But hey, this is the NFL. You'll be down one day and up the other. And there's always the next season

Edited December 21, 2015 by bioLarzen

[RavensBaltimore]

I've been screaming on this board forever that FLACCO is the reason our receivers look bad. It's just to bad that it took him to get injured to prove that. I've said it all along we've got serviceable receivers. Clausen for Flacco and no I'm not kidding--the price is right. Flacco can't read defenses and he is slow in going through his progressions and delivering the ball. He is no elite QB. Nuff Said.

I have never seen a less accurate comment than this one. First of all, we are averaging far fewer points without Joe than with him. Pretty much every WR Flacco has had plays better with him than without him. Kamar Aiken had 0 career catches before playing with Joe, including a year and a half with Brady. He started putting up better numbers when Steve Smith got hurt, when Flacco was still playing, so it makes absolutely no sense to blame Joe for holding him back. Steve Smith was declining in Carolina, and at ages 35 and 36, he was much more productive with Joe. In fact, at 36 years old, he had almost as many yds this year in less than half a season as he did in his final year in Carolina. Torrey Smith is having a career worst year by far in his first year without Joe. Ed Dickson's #s have drastically declined since leaving Baltimore, and Derrick Mason was productive at age 37 with Joe, then couldn't even stay in the league. The only receiver that has put up better numbers without Joe than with him is Boldin, but that's because he was in Cam's offense. Once Cam was gone, Boldin put up a dominant postseason, something he has never come close to replicating with anyone else. Not one of the WRs that failed to make an impact with Joe have gone on to play well anywhere else. If I'm wrong, name someone who has. As far as Flacco not being able to read defenses and going through his progressions slowly, that couldn't be further from the truth. Greg Cossell, of NFL films, broke down film of Flacco, showing how quickly he diagnoses the coverage and makes the correct read. He actually understands how to break down film and evaluate a qb.

[RavensBaltimore]

Aiken is no where in the vicinity of being a #1. His stats have been inflated recently because he is the only WR the Ravens have that was even on the roster all year, but he's not good enough to attract a lot of double coverage. Torrey Smith had well over 1,000yds when he was our only decent WR, but he clearly isn't a #1 either. Aiken disappeared way too often in games that mattered.

[Bat-mite]

I hope they threw the yellow pants in the incinerator after the game. They hurt my eyes, and I'm already in a bad mood just watching the games.

[sflegend89]

Aiken has stepped up his game a lot this year, really happy with the strides he's made in a bigger role. But #1 WR? C'mon don't even start that nonsense. Aiken is a solid #3 and I'm happy with that.

[Crusader]

As soon as he get 1000 yards two years in a row.

[verified]

hes #4

[Crusader]

do you by any chance know what picks we have and don't have?

I wish we had 53 for a new team.

[sflegend89]

Buck should have been able to return to the game to boost his confidence, that's that poor coaching by Harbaugh when Allen is clearly a big part moving forward. I bet he would have ran so hard to redeem himself.

 

Totally agree. Way to cut the guys legs out from under him. Buck was really stepping his game up since he got the starting job and to get benched like that in a game with zero playoff implications is just bad coaching. Young players need the confidence of the coaching staff, if you want a guy to produce like a starter then treat him like a starter. There's nothing worse for a young players confidence then being treated like they're replaceable. 

 

If Forsett fumbles in that situation would he get benched? Of course not. So why does Buck get treated differently when he's the starter, the game meant nothing and you just took away valuable game reps and a good lesson about bouncing back after a mistake from one of our young players.

[verified]

were gonna loose out cause the team has no talent and then well have the 2nd pick in the draft ooo i cant wait close your eyes and turn your tvs off next week cause this steelers game could be ugly

[Flamengo1265]

But, but, but......is Aiken elite?

[Purple Dawg 96]

Good game Kamar! But, will Aiken get these numbers with Joe in the backfield is the question?! No secret Joe locks on his WRs making it easy for the safety to read the play like when Joe threw our SB away last season and the safety said "he watched me the whole way"! SMH

[ravens4life86]

I just saw the Video about the Gold Pants, and being 20th ann linkage... but that Ravens would be interested in adding a 3rd color scheme for pants.

Heres a idea.. I would like besides the 2 main blk, and white pants.. how about 3rd pants with black as the main color(cause it goes with everything) but with a Gisnt Ravens Bird Logo on each leg. From thigh to high ankle.

Or option B.. Black as the main color, and do the Ravens Shield logo. On one side of the oants have the Maryland Flag, on the opposite side do the Giant"B" or couple Bs

Those would probably look tight

[OzzieBisciotti]

When I read the title of this article, "Should Kamar Aiken Be Considered A 'Real' No. 1 Receiver?" I nearly choked on my fries..... LOL

[RavensBaltimore]

Good game Kamar! But, will Aiken get these numbers with Joe in the backfield is the question?! 

After Steve Smith got hurt, Kamar Aiken averaged 6 catches/game with Joe. Without Joe, he's averaging...... 6 catches/game. The difference is, the passing game and offense as a whole was much better with Joe and scored a lot more points, while giving away fewer points.

 

 

 

No secret Joe locks on his WRs making it easy for the safety to read the play

True, that's not a secret. It's something a few fans made up.