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Gillmore done for the year?

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Harbaugh said that TE Crockett Gillmore is not going to play Sunday and probably is done for the year.

This is how bad teams get made, bad drafts and the ones that are good turn out to be injury "prone". Least he can rest. Seasons bout over anyway.

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good for him.....rest up and be ready for 2016.....

 

I view him as the next Gronk....

Lol! Next Gronk. Homer much?

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Harbaugh said that TE Crockett Gillmore is not going to play Sunday and probably is done for the year.

This is how bad teams get made, bad drafts and the ones that are good turn out to be injury "prone". Least he can rest. Seasons bout over anyway.

Injury prone? He was fine all last year and this is his second year. This may be just an arbitrary claim, but I don't like this label.
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I mean I get we have a ton of players on IR, but how many of these players would be going on IR if this team were 9-4 instead of 4-9?

 

When you're 4-9, there's no reason to rush somebody back or send them out there at 80-90%. When you are 9-4, there is.

 

I'd bet a guy like Crockett or Monroe wouldn't be on IR if this team were competitive. There are plenty of guys who have significant injuries that would have sent them to IR, but at this time of year, if you have a 2-3 week injury, you're pretty much going on IR. If you were a playoff team, that wouldn't be the case.

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He needs to avoid hits.   He moves around like a ram ready to get hit by a truck.   I applaud him for getting in physical and in great shape @ preseason, but he needs to stop taking hits @ yac.  

Wish him well..​

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Injury prone? He was fine all last year and this is his second year. This may be just an arbitrary claim, but I don't like this label.

whats why I put the "
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I mean I get we have a ton of players on IR, but how many of these players would be going on IR if this team were 9-4 instead of 4-9?

When you're 4-9, there's no reason to rush somebody back or send them out there at 80-90%. When you are 9-4, there is.

I'd bet a guy like Crockett or Monroe wouldn't be on IR if this team were competitive. There are plenty of guys who have significant injuries that would have sent them to IR, but at this time of year, if you have a 2-3 week injury, you're pretty much going on IR. If you were a playoff team, that wouldn't be the case.

Exactly this. All this will do is further fuel the fire to our whole team is on the IR crowd.

We are a bad football team. Some of these injuries are probably 3-4 week injuries but it's not worth them coming back side the Ravens are so bad.

It started probably 2-3 weeks ago. If any player on this team received an injury that took them close to being out for the rest of the season, they were placed on IR. I don't suspect any of these guys to have major or season ending injuries.

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Lol! Next Gronk. Homer much?

 

He's not as productive as Gronk, but he averaged roughly the same YAC and YPC as Gronk. Crockett was the second most productive tight end in the league after the catch, with only Gronk picking up more yards after the catch. If we schemed him open more, who knows? Crockett is very Gronk-like in his ability after the catch.

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Lol! Next Gronk. Homer much?

 

yes and no...Gronk beasting cuz of the system...

 

You might want to get your eyes checked then

my eyes are 20/20 and it's very clear....

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He needs to avoid hits.   He moves around like a ram ready to get hit by a truck.   I applaud him for getting in physical and in great shape @ preseason, but he needs to stop taking hits @ yac.  

Wish him well..​

Well he's not a great route runner and he's not fast, so all he offers is toughness and out-muscling the defender.  He's just going to have to get in better shape and absorb those hits better so he doesn't injured, otherwise he might as well just be a blocking TE.  I dunno.  Gronk (everybody here seems to get upset when Gronk's name comes up in the same conversation as Gillmore, but I have a good reason here) also gets injured a lot, but he plays through it, he recovers quickly, and he makes it worth the while because of what he can do when he is out there playing.  Hopefully Gillmore can get somewhere in the same universe as that kind of player, we'll see!

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I wouldn't call Gillmore injury prone. Clearly Harbaugh is shutting him down as a precaution. If we were in the playoff hunt I bet he would still be playing.

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yes and no...Gronk beasting cuz of the system...

my eyes are 20/20 and it's very clear....

I'm just giving you a hard time. I hope he turns out to be a superstar for us

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I mean I get we have a ton of players on IR, but how many of these players would be going on IR if this team were 9-4 instead of 4-9?

 

When you're 4-9, there's no reason to rush somebody back or send them out there at 80-90%. When you are 9-4, there is.

 

I'd bet a guy like Crockett or Monroe wouldn't be on IR if this team were competitive. There are plenty of guys who have significant injuries that would have sent them to IR, but at this time of year, if you have a 2-3 week injury, you're pretty much going on IR. If you were a playoff team, that wouldn't be the case.

oh ofcourse.. Plus if we were headed for the playoffs not only would they have more incentive to keep them on but they would have a little more time to heal.
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Crock is still young and has a lot of growing to do. He may not be anywhere near Gronk now but the way he gets YAC and lays ppl out he will certainly be our "version" of Gronk.

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Gillmore is NOT Gronk. Should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. These boards get so easily carried away and immediately want to anoint someone an absolute stud. At the moment I love his toughness and believe he can be good, but he is extremely inconsistent and regularly disappears in games. His stats are nothing special. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. People said the same thing about Pitta when everyone was super happy we signed him, but even his best season he never put up more than 700 yards. The hard truth is we don't have any studs, we don't have any Odell Beckham's or Revis or Von Miller's or Gronk's on our roster and we as fans need to stop hyping the guys we do have up like they are comparable to these guys when they aren't even close.

 

On another note... Can someone tell me why these boards haven't gone in on Maxx Williams for not showing up this season when he was our 2nd round pick? He hasn't done much more than Perriman all year but people on these boards crucified Perriman for not playing. Williams has at least played and has done next to nothing and yet nobody bashes him, I don't get it

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I wouldn't call Gillmore injury prone. Clearly Harbaugh is shutting him down as a precaution. If we were in the playoff hunt I bet he would still be playing.

I'm not so sure he'd be ready to play if we are contending - he copped pretty nasty hit to the already injured back in Miami. They say his shoulder is not 100% either.

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Gillmore is NOT Gronk. Should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. These boards get so easily carried away and immediately want to anoint someone an absolute stud. At the moment I love his toughness and believe he can be good, but he is extremely inconsistent and regularly disappears in games. His stats are nothing special. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. People said the same thing about Pitta when everyone was super happy we signed him, but even his best season he never put up more than 700 yards. The hard truth is we don't have any studs, we don't have any Odell Beckham's or Revis or Von Miller's or Gronk's on our roster and we as fans need to stop hyping the guys we do have up like they are comparable to these guys when they aren't even close.

 

On another note... Can someone tell me why these boards haven't gone in on Maxx Williams for not showing up this season when he was our 2nd round pick? He hasn't done much more than Perriman all year but people on these boards crucified Perriman for not playing. Williams has at least played and has done next to nothing and yet nobody bashes him, I don't get it

 

Because if you've been paying attention to the NFL all for the past decade, you'd know that rookie tight ends rarely contribute much their rookie year. They have a steeper developing curve than most positions, for whatever reason.

 

Also, who crucified Perriman? People were frustrated but not many, if any, crucified him.....

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He needs to avoid hits.   He moves around like a ram ready to get hit by a truck.   I applaud him for getting in physical and in great shape @ preseason, but he needs to stop taking hits @ yac.  

Wish him well..​

Well he did play for the Colorado State Rams :D

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This team has an injury prevention issue, this is beyond bad luck. 2 years in a row leading the NFL in players on IR is no accident. 

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This team has an injury prevention issue, this is beyond bad luck. 2 years in a row leading the NFL in players on IR is no accident.

The Ravens were up there, but I'm pretty sure the Giants led the league in IR'd players, last year.

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The Ravens were up there, but I'm pretty sure the Giants led the league in IR'd players, last year.

 

The point remains the same

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Injury prone? He was fine all last year and this is his second year. This may be just an arbitrary claim, but I don't like this label.

Here on these boards anyone who has been injured more than once at any any given moment of their lives is injury prone.

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Because if you've been paying attention to the NFL all for the past decade, you'd know that rookie tight ends rarely contribute much their rookie year. They have a steeper developing curve than most positions, for whatever reason.

 

Also, who crucified Perriman? People were frustrated but not many, if any, crucified him.....

Actually Maxx coasted on raw talent at college. He got to the NFL and was culture shocked at the speed,strength and dense muscularity of NFL players. He acknowledges he needed to get his nutrition and workouts in check at the NFL level. And maxx is a little out of shape compared to most elite TEs. He could use a little more muscle and to lose a little excess fat. And he is leaving some speed and power and burst on the table. But with that said he is a silky smooth route runner with a little sneaky speed to him. Especially for a player a little out of shape. He is planning a rigorous offseason training and nutrition program to reshape his body. If he ran a 4.7 out of shape, his play speed will be around 4.55-4.60 once he drops the speed draining excess fat and adds some fast twitch explosive muscle!! With his smooth routes and big hands and ball skills he should be a very explosive weapon next year. A TE that will command attention of a receiver with smooth routes and speed to stretch defenses. He could very well be a top5 TE or better next season!! He is also a competitive blocker and will be a much better blocker once adding some muscle this offseason. If ravens draft Tunsil and keep Osemele the 2TE sets with 2 TEs that catch well and block well is going to be a nightmare for offenses run or throw!!

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This team has an injury prevention issue, this is beyond bad luck. 2 years in a row leading the NFL in players on IR is no accident.

Its not. The conditioning regime is out of wack. Game is changing to a much faster pace, our players are still with the same conditioning coach for 7 years.

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