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You have to score more points when you are turning the ball over every game! 

 

Points don't mean you having a good game.  Sometimes it means your playing catch up.

 

I could care less if we score 6 points a game as long as it translates into a win.  

 

Joe is not the answer at QB.  I'm sorry.  If we can match his production and limit the turnovers he is expendable.

 

Mallett could be capable of doing this........fingers crossed.

Guess what sport......Joe Flacco is one of a few QBs that you want on your team with the game on the line. There aren't many around like him and the Ravens are fortunate to have him on the squad.

If you don't like Joe as our starter than I'm afraid you will be dissappointed for a long, long time.

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I'll repeat this. Just be happy the fans don't make the decisions.

Sorry. But you need three things to be a super bowl caliber team

1. Franchise QB

2. Good Trench play

3. An identity

We lacked two and three this year. Oline wasn't good, dline got no push, and we don't have an identity.

QB is the last of our worries

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Seems like the Ravens are more interested in athletic ability than they are in smarts and intelligence and that's not good at the QB position.

What does this mean?  Who is smart and intelligent and who is an athlete?

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The fragile frail flower who has been demoted to bench rider in just four seasons?

There is a reason he is no longer a starter. There is a reason he most likely will not be in the NFL next year.

Mobile QB's are not the future.

They aren't? Cam, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Mariota, Big Ben, Tony Romo, Bridgewater, Winston, Tyrod, Manziel.  

See any big names on that list?  

 

Sure, you still have Brady,  The Mannings, Rivers and Brees to play with, but the future looks like it just went mobile.   

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In today's NFL you need more than 20 more often than not. Turnovers or not.

I would agree with this (but) on a football team all points aren't generated from the QB.  

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Guess what sport......Joe Flacco is one of a few QBs that you want on your team with the game on the line. There aren't many around like him and the Ravens are fortunate to have him on the squad.

If you don't like Joe as our starter than I'm afraid you will be dissappointed for a long, long time.

Sorry Tank.  

This injury was the worst thing that could have happened to Joe.  He's been gone for weeks and honestly i cant say that i have missed him all that much at all.

 

This isn't something  you should say about your franchise QB. 

 

Mallett is serviceable at the position and i'm wondering without the likes of Rice, Suggs, Haloti, Ray, Ed, Boldin, Torrey, Jones, Mcphee and the others if Joe wasn't just serviceable also.  

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They aren't? Cam, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Mariota, Big Ben, Tony Romo, Bridgewater, Winston, Tyrod, Manziel.

See any big names on that list?  

 

Sure, you still have Brady,  The Mannings, Rivers and Brees to play with, but the future looks like it just went mobile.   

You brought down that list significantly with that last one.

 

Beyond that apparently you and I define "mobile Q.B." differently. 

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Sorry Tank.  

This injury was the worst thing that could have happened to Joe.  He's been gone for weeks and honestly i cant say that i have missed him all that much at all.

 

This isn't something  you should say about your franchise QB. 

 

Mallett is serviceable at the position and i'm wondering without the likes of Rice, Suggs, Haloti, Ray, Ed, Boldin, Torrey, Jones, Mcphee and the others if Joe wasn't just serviceable also.  

 

The way Flacco plays in the playoffs no way Flacco is just serviceable. Honestly I rather have a quarterback that can turn it up in the playoffs than the regular season.  

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I was impressed today.  I really hope he's sincere about this wakeup call from being cut and keeps his attitude in check.  His personality was my biggest drawback to signing him.  If his interview and what the coaches are saying is true, I'm all for the signing for the future.  Regardless, I'll commend him for the amount of preparation he put in to get ready for today.

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I was impressed today.  I really hope he's sincere about this wakeup call from being cut and keeps his attitude in check.  His personality was my biggest drawback to signing him.  If his interview and what the coaches are saying is true, I'm all for the signing for the future.  Regardless, I'll commend him for the amount of preparation he put in to get ready for today.

He isn't even getting enough praise after what he pulled off, given the fact he's been in entirely unfamiliar system for just 12 days. Impressive, indeed.

 

In a post game presser he sounded very sincere and humble. Single game and 2 weeks is a pretty short sample, but I wish him well. Considering it's likely that Bengals rest some of their starters next week, Mallett might start his Ravens career 2-0, beating divisional rivals.

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He isn't even getting enough praise after what he pulled off, given the fact he's been in entirely unfamiliar system for just 12 days. Impressive, indeed.

 

In a post game presser he sounded very sincere and humble. Single game and 2 weeks is a pretty short sample, but I wish him well. Considering it's likely that Bengals rest some of their starters next week, Mallett might start his Ravens career 2-0, beating divisional rivals.

 

I was impressed when he was running no huddle in Q1.

 

I heard he stayed at the facility so late one night that he just decided to sleep there so he could hit the playbook early that next morning.  I'll always respect a guy that puts in that amount of work.  I sincerely hope he really is humbled, because he's a hell of a backup/fill-in for Joe.

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They aren't? Cam, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Mariota, Big Ben, Tony Romo, Bridgewater, Winston, Tyrod, Manziel.  

See any big names on that list?  

 

Sure, you still have Brady,  The Mannings, Rivers and Brees to play with, but the future looks like it just went mobile.   

 

Wrong. The best QB's are the ones that can beat you with solely their arm. Which btw. Most of the guys you listed are primarily pocket passers who are capable of extending the play at the LOS. Let's see. 

 

Cam Newton: Can run. Is a pocket passer first. Had to develop pocket passing skills to survive. Is an exception because he's the size of a typical NFL LB. He's a beast. An exception. But his impressive development has lead me to believe that if you took away his ability to be a runner he'd still be a great QB. 

Russell Wilson: Can run. Doesn't do it as often anymore because he's developed more of a pocket passing game. If he had a competent oline he wouldn't have to use it. He can beat teams with only his arm btw. 

Aaron Rodgers: Can extend plays. Is easily a pocket passer first. Beats teams with his arm regularly. If you took away that from him, he'd still be an elite QB. 

Andrew Luck: See above. 

Tony Romo: See above, minus the elite QB part. Still very good.

Mariota: Run first Qb. Good not great. He needs further development if he wants to take the next step. Which means... Needs to develop pocket passing skills(though the tools are there).

Big Ben: See Rodgers except add 20 pounds and a ton of injuries because of it. He will run, but to call him anything but a pocket passer first is just foolish and nonsense. Take away his ability to run and he's still a damn good QB. 

Bridgewater: Had good pocket passing skills coming into the league and can run. Will not look to run first and there is a reason for that. 

Winston: See above except slower. He's got good arm talent. 

Tyrod: Is not very good. Watkins, McCoy, you have Robert Woods who's not a bad WR, Charles Clay, and so on. You know. Not a bad offense. Better personnel than what we had. Still did worse than Joe. Sorry to burst your bubble but he's not a very good passer and quite frankly. The Bills need another QB this draft. 

Manziel: Is only a big name because ESPN hyped him up. Is an idiot and just a lousy QB. 

 

I consider the bolded ones to be run first. Cam Newton is an exception to the rule. He's better with his legs but he'd be good without the mobility with how he's developed. 

 

Can't see how they're the future. Sorry man. 

 

Btw.. Flacco doesn't exactly lack in the athleticism department either. Making your point even more moot than it already is. But outside of Cam  on that list, the other people just don't run all too often because they know not to.

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While I agree with you, what makes it frustrating is that Mallet does have some talent, and in the right environment, I think he could grow into a solid starting QB (assuming he ever matures as a person).

Raise your hand if you talked all sorts of crap about Mallet in this thread, but [praising him] in this one

http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/66862-ryan-mallet-is-the-most-confident-qb-that-has-ever-lined-up-for-the-ravens/

LOL

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You have to score more points when you are turning the ball over every game! 

 

Points don't mean you having a good game.  Sometimes it means your playing catch up.

 

I could care less if we score 6 points a game as long as it translates into a win.  

 

Joe is not the answer at QB.  I'm sorry.  If we can match his production and limit the turnovers he is expendable.

 

Mallett could be capable of doing this........fingers crossed. 

So in games they were in and didn't lose by more than 8, they were playing catch up as the only excuse you can give as to why they scored more than 20 points 70% of the time?

 

And you're sadly delusional if one game means Mallet will always play like that or better.  If he could, he'd still be in Houston or starting for some other team.  Derek Anderson had a good game (and decent season) before also.  So did mobile QB Kaepernick yet he was benched.

 

People that just don't like or hate Joe just can't help themselves.  One good game and suddenly the 4th QB option is now the future starter....

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Rhetoric? Do you think Taylor is going to be an everyday franchise QB? I think the jury is still out on that thought. He really wasn't asked to carry his team this year and they hardly had a successful season. Ty may may end up being OK, but he's hardly a proven commodity.

 

Yeah, hate to say it, but I'm not convinced of anything just yet from Tyrod -- there's something lacking. Not physically, but mentally. I'm hoping with experience he will blossom. But it is just as possible that he'll turn out to be Kaepernick 2.0. I hope not, but I wouldn't bet against it either

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Wrong. The best QB's are the ones that can beat you with solely their arm. Which btw. Most of the guys you listed are primarily pocket passers who are capable of extending the play at the LOS. Let's see. 

 

Cam Newton: Can run. Is a pocket passer first. Had to develop pocket passing skills to survive. Is an exception because he's the size of a typical NFL LB. He's a beast. An exception. But his impressive development has lead me to believe that if you took away his ability to be a runner he'd still be a great QB. 

Russell Wilson: Can run. Doesn't do it as often anymore because he's developed more of a pocket passing game. If he had a competent oline he wouldn't have to use it. He can beat teams with only his arm btw. 

Aaron Rodgers: Can extend plays. Is easily a pocket passer first. Beats teams with his arm regularly. If you took away that from him, he'd still be an elite QB. 

Andrew Luck: See above. 

Tony Romo: See above, minus the elite QB part. Still very good.

Mariota: Run first Qb. Good not great. He needs further development if he wants to take the next step. Which means... Needs to develop pocket passing skills(though the tools are there).

Big Ben: See Rodgers except add 20 pounds and a ton of injuries because of it. He will run, but to call him anything but a pocket passer first is just foolish and nonsense. Take away his ability to run and he's still a damn good QB. 

Bridgewater: Had good pocket passing skills coming into the league and can run. Will not look to run first and there is a reason for that. 

Winston: See above except slower. He's got good arm talent. 

Tyrod: Is not very good. Watkins, McCoy, you have Robert Woods who's not a bad WR, Charles Clay, and so on. You know. Not a bad offense. Better personnel than what we had. Still did worse than Joe. Sorry to burst your bubble but he's not a very good passer and quite frankly. The Bills need another QB this draft. 

Manziel: Is only a big name because ESPN hyped him up. Is an idiot and just a lousy QB. 

 

I consider the bolded ones to be run first. Cam Newton is an exception to the rule. He's better with his legs but he'd be good without the mobility with how he's developed. 

 

Can't see how they're the future. Sorry man. 

 

Btw.. Flacco doesn't exactly lack in the athleticism department either. Making your point even more moot than it already is. But outside of Cam  on that list, the other people just don't run all too often because they know not to.

 

 

As a pure pocket passer, it has always been hard to evaluate Cam because of how defenses generally play him due to his ability to run. He's essentially what Atlanta was hoping to get with Vick; except he is much more accurate (I guess that isn't saying much, but regardless...).

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well now to me this signing already paid off lol.

 

swept the steelers and might have knocked them out of the play offs as well.

 

glad it paid off defending this signing :D

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Yeah, hate to say it, but I'm not convinced of anything just yet from Tyrod -- there's something lacking. Not physically, but mentally. I'm hoping with experience he will blossom. But it is just as possible that he'll turn out to be Kaepernick 2.0. I hope not, but I wouldn't bet against it either

 

 

Gotta root for him!

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They aren't? Cam, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Mariota, Big Ben, Tony Romo, Bridgewater, Winston, Tyrod, Manziel.  

See any big names on that list?  

 

Sure, you still have Brady,  The Mannings, Rivers and Brees to play with, but the future looks like it just went mobile.   

 

Big Ben and mobile QB should never be in the same sentence, ever!!

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Raise your hand if you talked all sorts of crap about Mallet in this thread, but [praising him] in this one

http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/66862-ryan-mallet-is-the-most-confident-qb-that-has-ever-lined-up-for-the-ravens/

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I admit it!! Mostly about his attitude, not talent level.

 

I also admit he did a really good job today and I liked how he conducted himself in his pressers.

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Big Ben and mobile QB should never be in the same sentence, ever!!

lol Yeah Ben isn't mobile, just hard to bring down.

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You brought down that list significantly with that last one.

 

Beyond that apparently you and I define "mobile Q.B." differently. 

There is scrambling QB's that run for tons of yards then there are mobile QB's that can move their feet within the pocket.  You don't necessarily have to have either but the game is moving in that direction.  Mallett might be another good example of that.  

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Wrong. The best QB's are the ones that can beat you with solely their arm. Which btw. Most of the guys you listed are primarily pocket passers who are capable of extending the play at the LOS. Let's see. 

 

Cam Newton: Can run. Is a pocket passer first. Had to develop pocket passing skills to survive. Is an exception because he's the size of a typical NFL LB. He's a beast. An exception. But his impressive development has lead me to believe that if you took away his ability to be a runner he'd still be a great QB. 

Russell Wilson: Can run. Doesn't do it as often anymore because he's developed more of a pocket passing game. If he had a competent oline he wouldn't have to use it. He can beat teams with only his arm btw. 

Aaron Rodgers: Can extend plays. Is easily a pocket passer first. Beats teams with his arm regularly. If you took away that from him, he'd still be an elite QB. 

Andrew Luck: See above. 

Tony Romo: See above, minus the elite QB part. Still very good.

Mariota: Run first Qb. Good not great. He needs further development if he wants to take the next step. Which means... Needs to develop pocket passing skills(though the tools are there).

Big Ben: See Rodgers except add 20 pounds and a ton of injuries because of it. He will run, but to call him anything but a pocket passer first is just foolish and nonsense. Take away his ability to run and he's still a damn good QB. 

Bridgewater: Had good pocket passing skills coming into the league and can run. Will not look to run first and there is a reason for that. 

Winston: See above except slower. He's got good arm talent. 

Tyrod: Is not very good. Watkins, McCoy, you have Robert Woods who's not a bad WR, Charles Clay, and so on. You know. Not a bad offense. Better personnel than what we had. Still did worse than Joe. Sorry to burst your bubble but he's not a very good passer and quite frankly. The Bills need another QB this draft. 

Manziel: Is only a big name because ESPN hyped him up. Is an idiot and just a lousy QB. 

 

I consider the bolded ones to be run first. Cam Newton is an exception to the rule. He's better with his legs but he'd be good without the mobility with how he's developed. 

 

Can't see how they're the future. Sorry man. 

 

Btw.. Flacco doesn't exactly lack in the athleticism department either. Making your point even more moot than it already is. But outside of Cam  on that list, the other people just don't run all too often because they know not to.

Worse than Joe.....lmao  He has 20 tds and 5 picks......are you kidding.  If the Bills need a Qb so do we.  Mallett  IMHO is Joe Flacco without the big contract. 

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So in games they were in and didn't lose by more than 8, they were playing catch up as the only excuse you can give as to why they scored more than 20 points 70% of the time?

 

And you're sadly delusional if one game means Mallet will always play like that or better.  If he could, he'd still be in Houston or starting for some other team.  Derek Anderson had a good game (and decent season) before also.  So did mobile QB Kaepernick yet he was benched.

 

People that just don't like or hate Joe just can't help themselves.  One good game and suddenly the 4th QB option is now the future starter....

I think your missing the point here.  Mallett  may not be the answer at Qb but either is Joe, and if I had to pick today solely based on performance, I'll take the guy that puts up Joe's numbers without the inflated contract.

 

I don't like Joe for what he brings to the team at the salary he commands. He will always be garbage at that number.  Mallet asks far less pay for essentially the same stats.  Couple that, with intensity and a passion for the game and you have a decent fit

 

 

The hate on Joe is over.  All im asking after all these years, is to prove to the fanbase that he is worth his weight in gold.  Honestly I don't see it and neither does the rest of the world.     

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The way Flacco plays in the playoffs no way Flacco is just serviceable. Honestly I rather have a quarterback that can turn it up in the playoffs than the regular season.  

So we are talking about one playoff run?  Before the legacy run. I can remember when he got us booted out of the playoffs based on his play alone. Turnovers yet again spell doom for boy wonder.

 

We can do this with a serviceable guy at the Qb position.  Trust me.  Flacco's stats suggest that he has been that player since the said run. 

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Mallet is not a Ravens type player in the least. In fact, he's the opposite. He'll behave for a while, but if he ever gets to play, he will revert to being a PIA. And if he plays well, he'll be even worse.

Why? Because he had a bout of immaturity? I think Houston humbled a lot by releasing him. Maybe he got it together and learned some selflessness?

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So we are talking about one playoff run? Before the legacy run. I can remember when he got us booted out of the playoffs based on his play alone. Turnovers yet again spell doom for boy wonder.

We can do this with a serviceable guy at the Qb position. Trust me. Flacco's stats suggest that he has been that player since the said run.

24 TDs and 4 INTs and many dropped TD passes since his rookie and sophomore years including last year at Pitt where he far outplayed what Mallet did today in a much bigger game.

It's not just 'one' playoff run, and entertaining this idea is literally insane. I question if you were a fan before 2008, maybe let's see what our serviceable QB can do with a true #1 WR instead.

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