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I'm not a kicker, but it seems that FG kicking is much like golf in that it is about 60% mental and 40% physical.  These guys practice the same motion over and over so the mechanics are basically muscle memory with adjustments for conditions. Not sure what the issue is, but every kick over 50 that Tuck misses makes the next one that much more difficult. 

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Hosel?

 

Golf club reference. Newer drivers have an adjustable hosel to open/close(left/right) the face of the club or change the loft angle(higher/lower trajectory). Tuck needs to close the face some and get the ball back to the left a bit.   lol

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It's just that kind of year man. Actually will help us and give the FO a little leverage in retaining him for less money. He definitely doesn't deserve to be the leagues highest paid kicker at this point. But I still want him to be a raven regardless. I'm confident he'll get these issues worked out.

Maybe he secretly has been told to purposefully miss so we can move up in the draft order.

Sounds like a good excuse to me!

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Is it just that he isn't striking the ball with the same confidence? I don't know ... but I can say this - his inability to hit from 50+ is a major concern. I think it is going to be hard to convince the FO that he should be the highest paid kicker in football this offseason. However, I'm willing to bet his agent will dig in the heels and we'll see what happens. 

 

As much as we and I believe the entire franchise love this kid, the FO will be hard pressed to make that big payout right now. I think they'd prefer to franchise him and see if he regains his form through the course of next year. If so, then we'll be more willing to commit long term.

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I have watched Tucker make kick after kick from 60 yards before the games.  Same with other NFL kickers.  It is more a mental issue more than a just aim left.  That is why Tucker has been such a plus in the past is that he hasn't been effected by nerves.  

Anyway if you are depending on kickers to consistently make 55 yarders in games you are going to lose a lot of games. 

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Is it just that he isn't striking the ball with the same confidence? I don't know ... but I can say this - his inability to hit from 50+ is a major concern. I think it is going to be hard to convince the FO that he should be the highest paid kicker in football this offseason. However, I'm willing to bet his agent will dig in the heels and we'll see what happens. 

 

As much as we and I believe the entire franchise love this kid, the FO will be hard pressed to make that big payout right now. I think they'd prefer to franchise him and see if he regains his form through the course of next year. If so, then we'll be more willing to commit long term.

 

 

No question his stock has fallen.

 

I think back to Haucshka and how he had zero confidence in the clutch. He then goes to Seattle and becomes a reliable kicker with a new outlook.  I just hope the misses don't build on themselves and kill Tuck's confidence.  That would be a major bummer.

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He hasn't been the same since he nearly got swallowed by the sinkhole. Is it possible an injury is in play that is messing with the longer kicks? He's still automatic inside 50.

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Our offense needs to stop putting Tucker in a position to kick 50+ yard FGs in order to put points on the board.  

Hindsight being 20/20 if Tucker kicks a FG instead of the failed 4th down from inside the one yard line, we win! 

BTW, if I was coaching I would have went for it also, we have nothing to lose at that point. 

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He hasn't been the same since he nearly got swallowed by the sinkhole. Is it possible an injury is in play that is messing with the longer kicks? He's still automatic inside 50.

 

I was thinking this as well.  I believe that done something to him mentally and that may be the issue.  Hopefully, he'll make the adjustments and return to form.

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Golf club reference. Newer drivers have an adjustable hosel to open/close(left/right) the face of the club or change the loft angle(higher/lower trajectory). Tuck needs to close the face some and get the ball back to the left a bit. lol

10-4 Mr. Help-me-out guy.

I appreciate it.

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He hasn't been the same since he nearly got swallowed by the sinkhole. Is it possible an injury is in play that is messing with the longer kicks? He's still automatic inside 50.

Good point. It could be that or maybe he's thinking too much about his new contract and it's affecting his play.
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I think we franchise him and give him another year.

That might be the best thing to do with Tucker. I'm sure Ozzie and company have grown wary of handing out huge contracts recently for so little in return.

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So you guys actually think that kicking 50-50+ yards with wind is easy?

I don't think anyone said that, but I may have missed it. He's usually pretty good even with those conditions, though, so it certainly looks like it could be a mental thing with him. I'm not sure if he's hurt but I don't see any indication of that. He may just be thinking too much and worried about missing and messing up contract situations. Who knows. 

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Our offense needs to stop putting Tucker in a position to kick 50+ yard FGs in order to put points on the board.  

Hindsight being 20/20 if Tucker kicks a FG instead of the failed 4th down from inside the one yard line, we win! 

BTW, if I was coaching I would have went for it also, we have nothing to lose at that point. 

 

I agree

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Like I said before - guy is way high on himself. Listened to the hype that everyone in this organization (and on this boards) was feeding him. Drinking up all his own kool-aid. I know it feels awkward to flag him and point out the egg on his face, but it is what it is

 

I most certainly wish him all the best in rectifying the problem.

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Our offense needs to stop putting Tucker in a position to kick 50+ yard FGs in order to put points on the board.  

Hindsight being 20/20 if Tucker kicks a FG instead of the failed 4th down from inside the one yard line, we win! 

BTW, if I was coaching I would have went for it also, we have nothing to lose at that point. 

Nothing but the game.

Harbaugh goes for it a lot early in games but when you lose by less than 3 it is a game changer. 

Stopping at the goal line and comming away with zero is a big deal in the NFL. I was preferring a FG personally.

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I could not kick that ball accurately from the distances he has so its not right for me to judge Tucker. I think he will get it straightened out though.

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Our offense needs to stop putting Tucker in a position to kick 50+ yard FGs in order to put points on the board.  

Hindsight being 20/20 if Tucker kicks a FG instead of the failed 4th down from inside the one yard line, we win! 

BTW, if I was coaching I would have went for it also, we have nothing to lose at that point. 

 

If I were the HC, I would not have gone for a QB sneak on 4th down and inches with Matt Schaub under center. Coach Harbaugh has been lucky on going for it on 4th down so far this year but the law of averages caught up with him. At this point in the season, its academic but coming away with zero points after a long sustained drive is a major morale buster in any game. To coin a basketball phrase, if you live by the jumpshot, you'll die by the jumpshot. In retrospect, Coach Harbaugh should have put his team in a position to win by kicking the earlier FG instead of putting the pressure on his kicker to kick a 55 yarder late in the game. Besides, perfect practice makes permanent so kicking the earlier FG would have helped his confidence to kick a late FG to win it. Of course, it was not Justin Tucker's kicking that cost us the game. It was poor officiating again and poor play-calling in critical red-zone situations.   

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