Eating my words, giving props where its due- kamar aiken

[BmoreBird22]

I want to point out that the amazing thing about his stats is that in three games (Denver, Cincinnati, and Arizona), he had only two catches for five yards on seven targets. That means that if you take away those three games, in 10 games, Aiken has put up 60 catches for 797 yards and five touchdowns, or 6 catches, 80 yards, and .5 touchdowns per game.

 

Since Steve Smith has gone down (including San Diego when Aiken went off after Sr's injury), Aiken has averaged six catches for almost 80 yards and about .3 touchdowns. He's doing this with a backup quarterback, the backup to the backup, an inconsistent running game, and no help opposite him at receiver. Had Aiken been able to be the number one receiver for the entire season and work with Flacco, it is very possible that Aiken eclipses 1,000 yards (and probably has a good shot at breaking the Ravens franchise record), breaks 80 to 90 catches, and has 6-10 touchdowns. 

 

Why do people think he's incapable of being a number two with all he's displayed in recent weeks...?

Edited December 21, 2015 by BmoreBird22

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I want to point out that the amazing thing about his stats is that in three games (Denver, Cincinnati, and Arizona), he had only two catches for five yards on seven targets. That means that if you take away those three games, in 10 games, Aiken has put up 60 catches for 797 yards and five touchdowns, or 6 catches, 80 yards, and .5 touchdowns per game.

 

Since Steve Smith has gone down (including San Diego when Aiken went off after Sr's injury), Aiken has averaged six catches for almost 80 yards and about .3 touchdowns. He's doing this with a backup quarterback, the backup to the backup, an inconsistent running game, and no help opposite him at receiver. Had Aiken been able to be the number one receiver for the entire season and work with Flacco, it is very possible that Aiken eclipses 1,000 yards (and probably has a good shot at breaking the Ravens franchise record), breaks 80 to 90 catches, and has 6-10 touchdowns. 

 

Why do people think he's incapable of being a number two with all he's displayed in recent weeks...?

Because what we have is never good enough and everyone should be fired/cut and clean house. That's what I've learned from this place.

I think he'd be a low low low low low end #2. He's got good hands, and is a decent route runner. With some actual talent around him he'd be... Usefull. I'm impressed with how much he's grown.

[BmoreBird22]

Because what we have is never good enough and everyone should be fired/cut and clean house. That's what I've learned from this place.

I think he'd be a low low low low low end #2. He's got good hands, and is a decent route runner. With some actual talent around him he'd be... Usefull. I'm impressed with how much he's grown.

I don't even think he's low end. He's got great hands, tracks the ball extremely well, attacks and high points the ball, runs decent routes and savvy at the top of his routes , has wiggle and shiftiness to get YAC, and has some real grittiness.

He doesn't have the amazing speed, height/bulk, or elite craftiness in his routes to be a number one, but I'd damn well take him as a number to on quite a few teams. I think he's a very solid option that I'd have no issue starting him next year

[PurpleCity5]

Since Steve Smith has gone down (including San Diego when Aiken went off after Sr's injury), Aiken has averaged six catches for almost 80 yards and about .3 touchdowns. He's doing this with a backup quarterback, the backup to the backup, an inconsistent running game, and no help opposite him at receiver. Had Aiken been able to be the number one receiver for the entire season and work with Flacco, it is very possible that Aiken eclipses 1,000 yards (and probably has a good shot at breaking the Ravens franchise record), breaks 80 to 90 catches, and has 6-10 touchdowns. 

 

Why do people think he's incapable of being a number two with all he's displayed in recent weeks...?

I think it's the fact that when we have bet on WRs historically, it has always blown up on us. Exp: Tandon Doss, Marlon Brown, Lee Evans, T.J Housh, Tom Streeter ect. It's always these guys who are "vets", "late round picks", "high-potential", "training-camp destroyers" and what not, who always burn us. I'm not gonna lie, I fell into the Marlon Brown trap, I still wanted a WR in 2014 draft, but I did not think we needed one badly after the emergence of Brown, but man he's awful. It's the fact that the Ravens always "Rave" about so and so but rarely if ever they produced. 

 

I think Aiken can straight up ball and I love his game. Dude plays with heart, doesn't give up on plays, and every-time there is a turnover, I see him racing down the sideline to catch the defender. He always gives 100% even if he is not a #1 option, but I will admit, I'm worried if we will get bit again. Is he legit? Will he put up this same production? He has gotten better and better and I hope this carries onto next season. 

 

If I were the Ravens, I'm thinking we sign a mid-tier cap cut FA WR, get our guys, Smith Sr., and Perriman, and let them duel it out with Aiken for that starting job. If Aiken wins it then it proves that he is a starting WR. 

 

I'm more worried about Steve Smith personally. At 37 coming off an season ending injury will he be the same player again? Reggie Wayne was balling before his torn ACL and was never the same after that. Both are two different guys, but man, eventually the age will hit you. 

[Tru11]

Kamar Aiken: REC 62 YDS 802 AVG 12.9 TDS 5

 

Torrey Smith: REC 26 YDS 579 AVG 22.3 TDS 3

 

And people wish we kept Torrey? Pfffffftttttt lol

 

you should see how may targets each had this season and in the past.

 

might paint a very different picture.

 

And yes id rather have a higher AVG +  7 to 8 AVG TD  + all those PI he was getting each season over what aiken has done so far.

 

in 2013 when torrey was in the same situation as aiken is now, torrey had over 1100 yards and saw double coverage pretty much the whole season lol.

 

torrey had 4 productive seasons here.

 

lets again wait till aiken does it for a few season before we start comparing him to receivers who played here and actually achieved stuff here...

[usmccharles]

you should see how may targets each had this season and in the past.

 

might paint a very different picture.

 

And yes id rather have a higher AVG +  7 to 8 AVG TD  + all those PI he was getting each season over what aiken has done so far.

 

in 2013 when torrey was in the same situation as aiken is now, torrey had over 1100 yards and saw double coverage pretty much the whole season lol.

 

torrey had 4 productive seasons here.

 

lets again wait till aiken does it for a few seasons before we start comparing him to receivers who played here and actually achieved stuff here...

Boom. This.

[Tru11]

Boom. This.

 

2 seasons down the road this guy might get the marlon brown treatment lol

[usmccharles]

2 seasons down the road this guy might get the marlon brown treatment lol

Two seasons? next year is my guess....The best thing that could happen for him is SSr retire...

[JoeyFlex5]

2 seasons down the road this guy might get the marlon brown treatment lol

it's very possible because he's not a conventional starting wr, but he is much better than Brown ever Was, a 6'1" frame that can fight for the ball is better than a 6'4" frame that refuses to lol

[Tru11]

it's very possible because he's not a conventional starting wr, but he is much better than Brown ever Was, a 6'1" frame that can fight for the ball is better than a 6'4" frame that refuses to lol

 

Meh i would not say much better though IMO.

depends on how you look at things.

 

What he is doing now is similiar to what Brown did in 2013.

 

Brown had 49 Rec on 84 targets for 524 yards 10.7 avg and 7 TD in 14 games which he starterd 12.

 

Aiken 14 games started 12 106 targets 62 catches 802 yards 13.0 avg(orso) 5 TDs.

 

Aiken has more catches and more yards but also alot more targets and less TDs.

 

Could even try and get  the snap count numbers to have an even clearer picture but cant be botherd TBH lol

 

Biggest difference however is that Aiken is a 5th year pro while Brown was an UDFA coming off a big injury.

 

TBH im actually more impressed with what Brown did in 2013 then what Aiken is doing now given all the circumstances.

Edited December 21, 2015 by Tru11

[Tru11]

Two seasons? next year is my guess....The best thing that could happen for him is SSr retire...

 

if SS comes back, BP pans out and we get another WR from draft/Fa things might look different.

 

tbh the way he is playing might rule out the latter 2 options if the prior 2 happen.

 

this might not sit well with some here lol

[JoeyFlex5]

Meh i would not say much better though IMO.

depends on how you look at things.

 

What he is doing now is similiar to what Brown did in 2013.

 

Brown had 49 Rec on 84 targets for 524 yards 10.7 avg and 7 TD in 14 games which he starterd 12.

 

Aiken 14 games started 12 106 targets 62 catches 802 yards 13.0 avg(orso) 5 TDs.

 

Aiken has more catches and more yards but also alot more targets and less TDs.

 

Could even try and get  the snap count numbers to have an even clearer picture but cant be botherd TBH lol

 

Biggest difference however is that Aiken is a 5th year pro while Brown was an UDFA coming off a big injury.

 

TBH im actually more impressed with what Brown did in 2013 then what Aiken is doing now given all the circumstances.

im not looking at numbers though, im looking at the player and the play, marlon brown never looked impressive, i cant think of more than one play where i said to myself "wow nice catch marlon", he was schemed open as an unsuspected target a few times and made a few easy grabs, with the occasional ball that he had to jump for(vs minnesota in 2013) but aside from that i have really never been impressed by anything hes done, aiken has had moments this year where he really overachieves, hes limited as an athlete but he has made a few catches that left me picking up my jaw, marlon brown was kinda just in the right place at the right time, while aiken is just kinda beating everyone that lines up across from him and making great catches and giving a ton of effort, and doing all of this with schaub and clausen as his qb. 

 

numbers arent gonna tell this story when comparing a more competitive 2013 team with a starting qb and torrey smith, compared to THIS squad, the situations are worlds apart and really cant be compared by numbers, those numbers need some context

[Tru11]

im not looking at numbers though, im looking at the player and the play, marlon brown never looked impressive, i cant think of more than one play where i said to myself "wow nice catch marlon", he was schemed open as an unsuspected target a few times and made a few easy grabs, with the occasional ball that he had to jump for(vs minnesota in 2013) but aside from that i have really never been impressed by anything hes done, aiken has had moments this year where he really overachieves, hes limited as an athlete but he has made a few catches that left me picking up my jaw, marlon brown was kinda just in the right place at the right time, while aiken is just kinda beating everyone that lines up across from him and making great catches and giving a ton of effort, and doing all of this with schaub and clausen as his qb. 

 

numbers arent gonna tell this story when comparing a more competitive 2013 team with a starting qb and torrey smith, compared to THIS squad, the situations are worlds apart and really cant be compared by numbers, those numbers need some context

 

uhh that 2013 team was far from competitive on offense.

 

that run game and o-line where franchise worse.

it was flacco worst season and the most times he got sacked in his career lol.

 

add to that context the fact that brown was a rookie being pushed to play a big role.

 

Aiken however had 4 seasons of experience going into this season.

 

Lets see how Aiken will do when people will have real high expectations for him.

 

He is from the same draft class as torrey but when you put their careers next to each other that of aiken is a joke lol.

 

You guys are free to go with the hype but i hope for the guy you dont turn on him like how it happend with brown.

 

People here are notorious for coming with unrealistic expectations ....

[Purple_City39]

uhh that 2013 team was far from competitive on offense.

 

that run game and o-line where franchise worse.

it was flacco worst season and the most times he got sacked in his career lol.

 

add to that context the fact that brown was a rookie being pushed to play a big role.

 

Aiken however had 4 seasons of experience going into this season.

 

Lets see how Aiken will do when people will have real high expectations for him.

 

He is from the same draft class as torrey but when you put their careers next to each other that of aiken is a joke lol.

 

You guys are free to go with the hype but i hope for the guy you dont turn on him like how it happend with brown.

 

People here are notorious for coming with unrealistic expectations ....

Pretty much all this.  Aiken's ceiling is as a #3 WR.  He finally eclipses 100 yards receiving in a game for Baltimore and that was padded with a hail mary grab (which he deserves credit for).

 

Aiken has improved but not to the level where people should feel he's anything better than a #3, imo

[usmccharles]

Pretty much all this.  Aiken's ceiling is as a #3 WR.  He finally eclipses 100 yards receiving in a game for Baltimore and that was padded with a hail mary grab (which he deserves credit for).

 

Aiken has improved but not to the level where people should feel he's anything better than a #3, imo

Completely agree.  Maybe with Joe back next year, BP finally on the field and another WR to take the 1 or 2 spot, Aiken could carve out a nice role.  He showed great hands yesterday, i was impressed.  I really like how he attacks the ball, but im still not on his wagon, but ill give credit where its due, he had a good game

[JoeyFlex5]

uhh that 2013 team was far from competitive on offense.

 

that run game and o-line where franchise worse.

it was flacco worst season and the most times he got sacked in his career lol.

 

add to that context the fact that brown was a rookie being pushed to play a big role.

 

Aiken however had 4 seasons of experience going into this season.

 

Lets see how Aiken will do when people will have real high expectations for him.

 

He is from the same draft class as torrey but when you put their careers next to each other that of aiken is a joke lol.

 

You guys are free to go with the hype but i hope for the guy you dont turn on him like how it happend with brown.

 

People here are notorious for coming with unrealistic expectations ....

"people here" doesnt mean everyone, because i dont have unrealistic expectations. expecting aiken to be a perennial 1000 yard guy on a productive offense is ridiculous expectations, and i am not calling him that at all, i am expecting a 3rd wr who can fight for a ball if we need him to bail us out on occasion with a tough 3rd down catch, thats all, and he has shown the ability to do that. 

 

why do you downplay aiken by comparing his year 5 production to browns rookie production? if that really meant anything at all, then brown would have progressed and would not have let aiken steal his place 2 years in a row. i dont know how you can say "its more impressive that brown did it as a UDFA compared to aiken doing it in year 5" when browns year 5 may not even happen because he just might be out of the league by then. you just keep making comparisons with very little context. you must not remember just how bad marlon brown looked even when he was producing, you saw him make a few TD catches but most of his snaps he was tightly covered, stuck at the line in press coverage, failing miserably to locate the ball, or having no idea how to play a ball against man coverage, he looked horrible despite his production, aiken has simply looked like a better wr this year than brown ever has. numbers CAN lie on occasion, but the tape doesnt. you seriously cannot just use numbers to try to tell the whole story, i thought you were better than that.. 

 

and you shouldnt let the ridiculous expectations of others cloud your judgement for everyone. some people are speaking logically here and giving aiken credit for playing tough and improving as a player, while others are either going out of their way to bash him or overhyping as a future starter. there is a middle ground that most posters here seem to be unable to find..

Edited December 21, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[Tru11]

"people here" doesnt mean everyone, because i dont have unrealistic expectations. expecting aiken to be a perennial 1000 yard guy on a productive offense is ridiculous expectations, and i am not calling him that at all, i am expecting a 3rd wr who can fight for a ball if we need him to bail us out on occasion with a tough 3rd down catch, thats all, and he has shown the ability to do that. 

 

why do you downplay aiken by comparing his year 5 production to browns rookie production? if that really meant anything at all, then brown would have progressed and would not have let aiken steal his place 2 years in a row. i dont know how you can say "its more impressive that brown did it as a UDFA compared to aiken doing it in year 5" when browns year 5 may not even happen because he just might be out of the league by then. you just keep making comparisons with very little context. you must not remember just how bad marlon brown looked even when he was producing, you saw him make a few TD catches but most of his snaps he was tightly covered, stuck at the line in press coverage, failing miserably to locate the ball, or having no idea how to play a ball against man coverage, he looked horrible despite his production, aiken has simply looked like a better wr this year than brown ever has. numbers CAN lie on occasion, but the tape doesnt. you seriously cannot just use numbers to try to tell the whole story, i thought you were better than that.. 

 

and you shouldnt let the ridiculous expectations of others cloud your judgement for everyone. some people are speaking logically here and giving aiken credit for playing tough and improving as a player, while others are either going out of their way to bash him or overhyping as a future starter. there is a middle ground that most posters here seem to be unable to find..

 

im not downplaying anything.

i just dont follow the hype.

 

what aiken is doing is not more impressive then what brown did in his rookie season.

aiken has 4 years of experience and is playing on a better offense yet he isent putting up that much better numbers then brown did....

 

brown got a lot of hype as rookie and we all saw how that ended up.

 

aiken is also getting hype right now and we have yet to see how it will end up.

i just hope that people like you who are hyping him dont turn on him like everyone did on brown.

 

also there is nothing logical as putting a 1 year wonder in the same league as guys like boldin and torrey smith.

 

as for the tape:

it looks descend right now.

lets reserve judgement till we have more seasons worth of tape and teams actually game plan for him like they did for boldin and torrey.

 

i have yet to see a team have their best corner shadow aiken all game or have him in double coverage all game.

[JoeyFlex5]

 

 

aiken is also getting hype right now and we have yet to see how it will end up.

i just hope that people like you who are hyping him dont turn on him like everyone did on brown.

 

also there is nothing logical as putting a 1 year wonder in the same league as guys like boldin and torrey smith. 

 

i have yet to see a team have their best corner shadow aiken all game or have him in double coverage all game.

 

people like me? when have i hyped him? hype is overreacting and making unrealistic expectations with little reason behind them. for the umpteenth time i have done nothing but said i appreciate what aiken has done this year and i think he could be a respectable NUMBER 3 moving forward, i dont know how many times this can be reiterated and it couldnt have been stated any clearer in the OP. 

 

and once again putting words in my mouth, when have i put aiken in the same league as boldin and torrey? the people saying aiken is the next boldin or a poor mans boldin are delusional and THEY are the ones buying the hype, i have not once said anything of the sort. i called boldin overrated because he is vastly overrated by the fan base, he had far too many drops and never lived up to the hype nor did he deserve the last year of that contract, but i never said, and never would say, that aiken is as good as boldin. 

 

as far as the tape goes... marlon brown has 2 full seasons of tape with the ravens, kamar aiken has almost 2 full seasons of tape with the ravens, marlon browns is full of getting hemmed up at the line and getting lost trying to track the ball, aikens has some struggles and inconsistencies but shows more tenacity, separation, and ball skills than marlons tape will ever show, because hes a better wr and has proven it in the same time span that marlon had to prove he was worthy. 

 

as for the 3rd point in the quote, marlon never had that either, but aiken being our current #1 wr and brown being our 2nd in his rookie year, aiken is more likely to draw the top corner than brown ever was.

Edited December 21, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[Tru11]

people like me? when have i hyped him? hype is overreacting and making unrealistic expectations with little reason behind them. for the umpteenth time i have done nothing but said i appreciate what aiken has done this year and i think he could be a respectable NUMBER 3 moving forward, i dont know how many times this can be reiterated and it couldnt have been stated any clearer in the OP. 

 

and once again putting words in my mouth, when have i put aiken in the same league as boldin and torrey? the people saying aiken is the next boldin or a poor mans boldin are delusional and THEY are the ones buying the hype, i have not once said anything of the sort. i called boldin overrated because he is vastly overrated by the fan base, he had far too many drops and never lived up to the hype nor did he deserve the last year of that contract, but i never said, and never would say, that aiken is as good as boldin. 

 

as far as the tape goes... marlon brown has 2 full seasons of tape with the ravens, kamar aiken has almost 2 full seasons of tape with the ravens, marlon browns is full of getting hemmed up at the line and getting lost trying to track the ball, aikens has some struggles and inconsistencies but shows more tenacity, separation, and ball skills than marlons tape will ever show, because hes a better wr and has proven it in the same time span that marlon had to prove he was worthy.

 

Well Aiken is more experienced so he is supposed to look like the better WR.

 

Again i just hope for the guy you and others wont turn on him if by whatever reason he cant grab the #3rd receiver spot which could be a very realistic option.

 

if Smith and BP pan out after their injuries and the ravens draft a WR high or get another veteran in FA it might happen.

not to mention maybe camp remains healthy for once.

i take Waller and givens will do their best as well.

 

heck Brown could actually come into his own in his 4th season...

took aiken 5 seasons after all to take the next step in his career.

 

knowing our luck aiken might get injured in trainings camp and never regain his form...

[JoeyFlex5]

Well Aiken is more experienced so he is supposed to look like the better WR.

 

Again i just hope for the guy you and others wont turn on him if by whatever reason he cant grab the #3rd receiver spot which could be a very realistic option.

 

if Smith and BP pan out after their injuries and the ravens draft a WR high or get another veteran in FA it might happen.

not to mention maybe camp remains healthy for once.

i take Waller and givens will do their best as well.

 

heck Brown could actually come into his own in his 4th season...

took aiken 5 seasons after all to take the next step in his career.

 

knowing our luck aiken might get injured in trainings camp and never regain his form...

all possible scenarios, some more likely than others, camp, when healthy, i think is by far the best wr on the team not named steve, we have a high draft pick who we expect big things from, and waller has immense potential but is very, very far from realizing it. marlon brown hadnt shown me enough in preseason/early season for me to think he can progress any further, his talent well seems to be tapped out, aiken could very well be at his ceiling as well, but if he can provide a few key grabs for us in tough situations then i am happy, and if he cant become the #3 wr and he is beat out by someone who is truly better then i dont see a problem with that either, however, what he has done for us this year i think deserves a pat on the back, he has overachieved for about 3/4 of this season and really has been the only bright spot on the offense for the most part.

[Tru11]

all possible scenarios, some more likely than others, camp, when healthy, i think is by far the best wr on the team not named steve, we have a high draft pick who we expect big things from, and waller has immense potential but is very, very far from realizing it. marlon brown hadnt shown me enough in preseason/early season for me to think he can progress any further, his talent well seems to be tapped out, aiken could very well be at his ceiling as well, but if he can provide a few key grabs for us in tough situations then i am happy, and if he cant become the #3 wr and he is beat out by someone who is truly better then i dont see a problem with that either, however, what he has done for us this year i think deserves a pat on the back, he has overachieved for about 3/4 of this season and really has been the only bright spot on the offense for the most part.

 

as long as you dont turn on the guy like others did to brown im cool.

 

he is overachieving and i think its in part due to him being in a contract year set to be an unrestricted FA.

 

hope he gets what he deserves and will hate to see people demonize the guy if things dont pan out like wanted.

[ravensdfan]

Not eating my words. Said he shouldn't be a #1 on any team, that he was a #4, #3 at best and still holding to that opinion.

 

My biggest issue is that the FO will say "oh hey! we can just go with Aiken & Perriman as our starters!" and, you know, crap again.

[January J]

uhh that 2013 team was far from competitive on offense.

 

that run game and o-line where franchise worse.

it was flacco worst season and the most times he got sacked in his career lol.

 

add to that context the fact that brown was a rookie being pushed to play a big role.

 

Aiken however had 4 seasons of experience going into this season.

 

Lets see how Aiken will do when people will have real high expectations for him.

 

He is from the same draft class as torrey but when you put their careers next to each other that of aiken is a joke lol.

 

You guys are free to go with the hype but i hope for the guy you dont turn on him like how it happend with brown.

 

People here are notorious for coming with unrealistic expectations ....

the 2013 offense was atleast more competitive than this offense. Obviously we were one game away from the playoffs. Aiken has been in the league for 4 years but this is the first year he has gotten a substantial amount of snaps and actually gotten a chance. And people already had high expectations for him going into this season. And he is getting the job done with the third string quarterback.

[JoeyFlex5]

Not eating my words. Said he shouldn't be a #1 on any team, that he was a #4, #3 at best and still holding to that opinion.

 

My biggest issue is that the FO will say "oh hey! we can just go with Aiken & Perriman as our starters!" and, you know, crap again.

im eating my words because i thought he would end up the same as marlon brown, i thought both of them were going to be disasters lol. 

 

i felt more adamantly about marlon being a disaster though, i had a very slim glimmer of hope for aiken because i saw more tenacity from him last year than i ever saw from brown, but im just admitting that he has done basically the exact opposite of what i expected.

[Tru11]

the 2013 offense was atleast more competitive than this offense. Obviously we were one game away from the playoffs. Aiken has been in the league for 4 years but this is the first year he has gotten a substantial amount of snaps and actually gotten a chance. And people already had high expectations for him going into this season. And he is getting the job done with the third string quarterback.

 

1 game away was not tnx to the offense lol.

 

that offense was not better then what we have this year especially if you take in consideration all the injuries  we have this year compared to then....

[BmoreBird22]

in 2013 when torrey was in the same situation as aiken is now, torrey had over 1100 yards and saw double coverage pretty much the whole season lol.

In his first five games, Torrey had 565 yards, just barely over half of his total, and then never again eclipsed 100 yards in a game. He wasn't that impressive in 2013

[Tru11]

In his first five games, Torrey had 565 yards, just barely over half of his total, and then never again eclipsed 100 yards in a game. He wasn't that impressive in 2013

 

when teams double cover you and game plan for you that happens .

 

you think aiken would have done better?

[BmoreBird22]

when teams double cover you and game plan for you that happens .

 

you think aiken would have done better?

Considering Aiken has shown a better skill set, yeah, I do. I mean, it can be played both ways because who is Aiken playing across from that is gonna command so much attention? At least in 2013 the Ravens had a legitimate tight end threat in Pitta, but Boyle got suspended and Gilmore has been hurt. His receivers across from him? Chris Givens and Jeremy Butler, one who just got called up from the PS. 

[JoeyFlex5]

as long as you dont turn on the guy like others did to brown im cool.

 

he is overachieving and i think its in part due to him being in a contract year set to be an unrestricted FA.

 

hope he gets what he deserves and will hate to see people demonize the guy if things dont pan out like wanted.

i admire what aiken has done for us, id find it hard to turn on him unless he pulls some classless move. i havent turned on brown either i just dont think highly of him as a player and never saw the fire and determination that you would expect from a UDFA, i never thought highly of brown to begin with so there really was no way of turning on him for me lol 

 

if aiken struggles in the future ill just say he had a nice run and gave us something fun to watch in an abysmal season and it was fun while it lasted. 

[Tru11]

Considering Aiken has shown a better skill set, yeah, I do. I mean, it can be played both ways because who is Aiken playing across from that is gonna command so much attention? At least in 2013 the Ravens had a legitimate tight end threat in Pitta, but Boyle got suspended and Gilmore has been hurt. His receivers across from him? Chris Givens and Jeremy Butler, one who just got called up from the PS. 

 

pitta was injured for most of the season....

 

smh lol