2016 Salary Cap & Possible Moves

[wizard1]

Top dollar meaning $4-5M, which you already acknowledged previously that we DO have.

 

If a team really needed the money to sign a kicker, they'd find a way. You can cut one player and free up the space for a kicker.

 

Not really worth discussing. There's very little chance he won't be a Raven in 2016. 

 50/50 chance at this point.

[rmcjacket23]

 50/50 chance at this point.

Based on what?

 

If we are just throwing numbers out of thin air, I'll go 98/2 he stays.

[GrimCoconut]

I just don't see Tucker going anywhere. Maybe he gets the tag, but we'll likely keep him around. Now maybe we remove the tag and draft a kicker, but I honestly think that's not very Ravens-like.

[rmcjacket23]

I just don't see Tucker going anywhere. Maybe he gets the tag, but we'll likely keep him around. Now maybe we remove the tag and draft a kicker, but I honestly think that's not very Ravens-like.

Again, I wouldn't be concerned. There's really no reason to think Tucker won't be here. 

[Drew P]

People need to start being realistic. We're one of the worst teams in the league cap wise. We're not aren't signing Weddle. We're not signing Calvin. We might not even be able to sign Garçon.

 

No doubt. Nate Washington or Reuben Randle is more like it

[usmccharles]

No doubt. Nate Washington or Reuben Randle is more like it

I've said it before, I really do see Washington coming here. Sadly

[Deflated Football]

People need to start being realistic. We're one of the worst teams in the league cap wise. We're not aren't signing Weddle. We're not signing Calvin. We might not even be able to sign Garçon.

I think we can find a way to sign Garçon. The front office has to really want him though to make it possible since we're broke lol. I could see him in a Ravens jersey.

[RavenzRule2000]

The numbers were released this week and the NFL pins them between $147-154 Million. These numbers typically run a bit low, so expectations are seemingly based around the $154 million number.

 

According to Brian McFarland (does he post here?) this is where we stand before any cuts or restructures happen. So, where do we go from here? Thoughts?

 

 

@RavensSalaryCap

With ERFA/RFA tenders in place (but still prior to cuts), Ravens would be estimated to be ~$364K under Cap.

Flacco and Suggs have to restructure

[DenverRaven]

I think we can find a way to sign Garçon. The front office has to really want him though to make it possible since we're broke lol. I could see him in a Ravens jersey.

 

I have a feeling we're going into next season with SSS, BP, Aiken, Butler, Camp and a draft pick. They might go after a budget WR, but I think they're going to put FA money into the D. Could be wrong, but if those guys are healthy it might not be so bad. BIG IF.

[FlackAttack]

Wouldnt be surprised if the organization let tucker go. Hes replaceable and spending the kind of money on him that will be demanded in the market is a complete waste. We need to spend money on the skilled positions. This team is completely lacking talent in the areas where it matters most.

 

Im happy we locked up sam koch, hes more important.

[rmcjacket23]

Flacco and Suggs have to restructure

Flacco gets an extension, nothing happens with Suggs.

Roster cuts will create more space. Plenty of players to cut.

[jazz1988]

Wouldnt be surprised if the organization let tucker go. Hes replaceable and spending the kind of money on him that will be demanded in the market is a complete waste. We need to spend money on the skilled positions. This team is completely lacking talent in the areas where it matters most.

 

Im happy we locked up sam koch, hes more important.

 

Tucker is a Raven he helps win games and is one of the better kicker in the league. It's not just that but his personality along  with his swag just fits so well with what  The Raven do and love. The Raven may lack talent in areas where it matters most but keeping players that give the team swag and character is very important which is something Tucker does.

[Deflated Football]

I have a feeling we're going into next season with SSS, BP, Aiken, Butler, Camp and a draft pick. They might go after a budget WR, but I think they're going to put FA money into the D. Could be wrong, but if those guys are healthy it might not be so bad. BIG IF.

That would be a big mistake in my opinion. Counting on SSS who will be 37 and is coming off of an injury that saps explosion is not smart. BP is an unknown and Camp can't last a full season yet. We need at least two more playmakers at the WR position, regardless of if they're draft picks or veterans.

[DenverRaven]

That would be a big mistake in my opinion. Counting on SSS who will be 37 and is coming off of an injury that saps explosion is not smart. BP is an unknown and Camp can't last a full season yet. We need at least two more playmakers at the WR position, regardless of if they're draft picks or veterans.

 

I don't disagree at all, I just feel like that's going to be the outcome lol. Like you said... We broke. Even freeing up 10 mil, I'm not sure enough will be there to get someone like Garcon. I would love that though.

Edited December 22, 2015 by DenverRaven

[FlackAttack]

Tucker is a Raven he helps win games and is one of the better kicker in the league. It's not just that but his personality along  with his swag just fits so well with what  The Raven do and love. The Raven may lack talent in areas where it matters most but keeping players that give the team swag and character is very important which is something Tucker does.

 

Sure, hes got swag, but its not helping the team at all. It all boils down to talented players at skilled positions. Thats more important at this phase of the franchise and the league. The days of relying on defense, running and kicking are over. Just because a kicker has swag doesnt mean he should be paid 4-  5 mill a year. Thats way too much for a kicker considering all other positions the organization needs filled.

 

Just sayin i wouldn't be surprised if they let him go, it would make sense.

[rmw10]

Tucker ain't going anywhere.  Even with his struggles this year, he's still one of the best kickers in the game.  Try to tell me a kicker doesn't matter when there are 3 seconds left on the clock in a game winning situation.

[FlackAttack]

Tucker ain't going anywhere.  Even with his struggles this year, he's still one of the best kickers in the game.  Try to tell me a kicker doesn't matter when there are 3 seconds left on the clock in a game winning situation.

 

of course they matter. but theres about 30-31 kickers in the league that will make a kick with 3 seconds left.

 

a WR that will catch a gaming winning TD with 3 seconds left..  a safety or corner that will PICK the ball with seconds left when an opposing offense is threatening a comeback. a pass rusher that will sack a qb in crunch time. these type of players narrow down to 12 playoff teams.

 

try to tell me one player on this team thats capable executing any of those scenarios with confidence.

Edited December 22, 2015 by FlackAttack

[rmw10]

of course they matter. but theres about 30-31 kickers in the league that will make a kick with 3 seconds left.

 

a WR that will catch a gaming winning TD with 3 seconds left..  a safety or corner that will PICK the ball with seconds left when an opposing offense is threatening a comeback. a pass rusher that will sack a qb in crunch time. these type of players narrow down to 12 playoff teams.

 

try to tell me one player on this team thats capable executing any of those scenarios with confidence.

 

Says all it needs to say.  That's so far from true.

[FlackAttack]

Says all it needs to say.  That's so far from true.

 

maybe my point went over your head.. remember steve hauschka? guess what team he plays for now and look at their success.

 

the success has nothing to do with him. it has something to do with the playmakers. get it?

Edited December 22, 2015 by FlackAttack

[January J]

of course they matter. but theres about 30-31 kickers in the league that will make a kick with 3 seconds left.

 

a WR that will catch a gaming winning TD with 3 seconds left..  a safety or corner that will PICK the ball with seconds left when an opposing offense is threatening a comeback. a pass rusher that will sack a qb in crunch time. these type of players narrow down to 12 playoff teams.

 

try to tell me one player on this team thats capable executing any of those scenarios with confidence.

Tell that to the buffalo bills back when they faced the Giants in the Super Bowl. Cundiff got the job done too right? Had we had tucker we may have another trophy in the the display case back at the castle.

[January J]

He definitely doesn't deserve to be the highest paid that's for sure. I'd pay him exactly what the 3rd or 4th highest paid kicker is making.

[rmw10]

maybe my point went over your head.. remember steve hauschka? guess what team he plays for now and look at their success.

the success has nothing to do with him. it has something to do with the playmakers. get it?

3 points can be all the difference in the game of your offense stalls and can't get 6. Of course it takes a team effort but I think you're way misguided if you don't think a kicker makes a difference. How many games would we have lost these past few years without Tucker nailing 50+ yarders at the end of regulation? It's not the best year for him of course, but let's not pretend he hasn't been an integral part of this team.

Speaking of Hauschka, do you really want to go through a situation like that again? I'm glad he's found success elsewhere, but he was downright awful here.

[FlackAttack]

He definitely doesn't deserve to be the highest paid that's for sure. I'd pay him exactly what the 3rd or 4th highest paid kicker is making.

 

if he is willing to take a lower offering than the market, im all for keeping him. once he hits the 4 mill mark, which is almost inevitable.. its going to get questionable

[FlackAttack]

3 points can be all the difference in the game of your offense stalls and can't get 6. Of course it takes a team effort but I think you're way misguided if you don't think a kicker makes a difference. How many games would we have lost these past few years without Tucker nailing 50+ yarders at the end of regulation? It's not the best year for him of course, but let's not pretend he hasn't been an integral part of this team.

Speaking of Hauschka, do you really want to go through a situation like that again? I'm glad he's found success elsewhere, but he was downright awful here.

 

you make valid points.

[BmoreBird22]

Here's the thing with Tucker- He's absurdly bad at M&T Bank Stadium at home from over 50. He's money on the road and is really great from inside 50, but you get him out past 50 at home and he's gonna miss. 

He's 0-9 these past two years and 1-11 in his career from over 50 at home. That's really worrisome because he plays eight games in Baltimore and practices at M&T probably just about any time he wants. There should be no excuses to be better on the road than at home. 

 

I wouldn't pay him elite kicker money when half his games are in a stadium where he's unreliable from distance.

[FlackAttack]

Here's the thing with Tucker- He's absurdly bad at M&T Bank Stadium at home from over 50. He's money on the road and is really great from inside 50, but you get him out past 50 at home and he's gonna miss. 

He's 0-9 these past two years and 1-11 in his career from over 50 at home. That's really worrisome because he plays eight games in Baltimore and practices at M&T probably just about any time he wants. There should be no excuses to be better on the road than at home. 

 

I wouldn't pay him elite kicker money when half his games are in a stadium where he's unreliable from distance.

 

exactly. and having a bad kicker at home is downright unacceptable. especially considering we were once a dominant team at the bank. tucker is absolutely worth the money he is now. not what he will be valued after seasons end.

Edited December 22, 2015 by FlackAttack

[January J]

Here's the thing with Tucker- He's absurdly bad at M&T Bank Stadium at home from over 50. He's money on the road and is really great from inside 50, but you get him out past 50 at home and he's gonna miss. 

He's 0-9 these past two years and 1-11 in his career from over 50 at home. That's really worrisome because he plays eight games in Baltimore and practices at M&T probably just about any time he wants. There should be no excuses to be better on the road than at home. 

 

I wouldn't pay him elite kicker money when half his games are in a stadium where he's unreliable from distance.

Actually there are strict regulations about when players can practice at the stadium. Not sure why, doesn't make much sense to me but that's what I heard. They might not be able to at all I'm not sure. But yeah his record at mnt is definitely problematic to say the least.

[BmoreBird22]

exactly. and having a bad kicker at home is downright unacceptable. especially considering we were once a dominant team at the bank. tucker is absolutely worth the money he is now. not what he will be valued after seasons end.

And I'm not saying I want to get rid of Tucker by any stretch because he's got one of the highest touchback percentages in the NFL and has never missed more than two kicks inside 50 yards at home, but something about that 50 yard field goal is just his bane.

[BmoreBird22]

Actually there are strict regulations about when players can practice at the stadium. Not sure why, doesn't make much sense to me but that's what I heard. They might not be able to at all I'm not sure. But yeah his record at mnt is definitely problematic to say the least.

Well, they definitely have to be able to practice at the stadium at some points because they host practices there, but even still, what is it about Baltimore that makes him miss? Even if he's not at the stadium, he's still in Baltimore practicing kicks for most of the offseason.

[rmw10]

Here's the thing with Tucker- He's absurdly bad at M&T Bank Stadium at home from over 50. He's money on the road and is really great from inside 50, but you get him out past 50 at home and he's gonna miss.

He's 0-9 these past two years and 1-11 in his career from over 50 at home. That's really worrisome because he plays eight games in Baltimore and practices at M&T probably just about any time he wants. There should be no excuses to be better on the road than at home.

I wouldn't pay him elite kicker money when half his games are in a stadium where he's unreliable from distance.

He definitely has his downfalls, but I still think you'd be hard pressed to find anything better. I mean, the Jaguars are trotting out something called a Jason Myers and pretending he's a competent option. I'd rather not be in a situation like that again.