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[RavensAllDay1987]

I Love this organization. We all need to appreciate what we have here.

[BmoreB]

I actually feel bad for Cleveland. As much as I'm into football, if lived there I would do whatever I had to do to move to another city. lol

[fusuymada]

All the experts also picked the Browns to win last week and we saw how that turned out. We have always done better as underdogs. Had the refs made the correct calls in two separate instances we would be 6-5, on a 5 game winning streak and the toast of the NFL. And the NFL says that reffing is no worse this year than other years. That is also what they said when they gave us replacement refs and we have had more huge debacles this year over refereeing than we had with replacement refs. That doesn't say much for the NFL, its development of refs, and how much it cares whether or not games are called correctly. And when I say NFL, I don't mean Goodell who is just a whipping boy for the owners. It is the owners who are swimming in money that care more about money than wins. If not, then some attempt to resolve this reffing problem would at least be in progress, but clearly money is king. Until fans stop paying for a bad product continue to expect a sub par product with our refs.

[757RavensFan]

 

Since Steve Smith injury, #Ravens WR Kamar Aiken is 5th in NFL in targets, 7th in catches. What's made him so good? https://t.co/R21Fyff6zl

— Jon Meoli (@JonMeoli) December 3, 2015

 

Glad to see Kamar Aiken stepping up while Smitty is out.  On another note, I think Marlon Brown's days as a Raven end this off-season. 

[jravens13]

I kind of feel bad for Marlon. I hope another team gives him a chance, but I think his time here is probably over as he becomes an RFA at the end of the year. This was his year to prove himself, but he just couldn't get it done. Butler needs more reps. He gets it done on gameday.

[Dorota]

My Dolphins fan friend tells me they don't perform that great at home, because the local support is meh. Among other things, that's why they're happy enough to travel to London annually. Therefore, little home field advantage. Keep the penalties down, keep the defense tight, and don't lose the ball and we can win it.

[williebear317]

The Dolphins are favored? Did you see their last game? Give me a freaking break!!!!

[rmcjacket23]

The Dolphins are favored? Did you see their last game? Give me a freaking break!!!!

You have two teams with the exact same record, one with their franchise QB and one without AND they are playing at home.

 

No realistic person thinks the Ravens should be favored. Vegas also certainly doesn't post point spreads based solely on what they saw the previous week.

[cec327]

Gee, with so many "experts" picking the Dolphins , I wonder why we are playing at all. I also wonder how many of them back up their selections by wagering on their selection. The point spread when I made my selection was Ravens 4. I'll take that every time.

[surfdude]

fusuymada, couldn't agree more with your message. The refs have been terrible this season and it seems to be getting worse not better. ESPECIALLY against the Ravens. The Raider game and ESPECIALLY the Jags game. Plus a lot of momentum calls have gone against the Ravens. They could very easily be 7 - 4 right now. I don't get Steve not saying a word after the Jags game nothing crickets. I mean if winning is everything and that was a solid win and the owner says nothing, that tells me all I need to know that money is most important and winning is just the cherry on top. I love football so much I played little league on up to high school and just love the game that much, BUT if the officiating doesn't improve I might be on my way out especially if it continues to cost my Ravens W's. Even last night the refs blew it. That was NOT a face mask. Another team the refs cost them a W.

[Raven1995]

Pete Prisco says "The Dolphins fired offensive coordinator Bill Lazor, which means they will go to more running this week and it will pay off against the Ravens". I don't think so. Miami might be without Pro Bowl Center Pouncey, and the Ravens are looking the best they have all year on the Defensive line. I say Miami will throw the ball over 40 times and the Ravens win

[cec327]

BTW one of the "experts" predicted that the Dolphins and their new OC will run the ball against the Ravens which will be the deciding factor in the game. One can only pray that Miami sticks to the run--at least I am.

[Purple Dawg 96]

It's gonna be a shootout in Miami so don't waste time running up the middle! Out of 10 plays you gotta run maybe "ONCE" to hit them in the mouth! And if some people want to know why I say this all the time I just watch the squeelers do it in Seattle and I got it from brady on a Monday night game against the squeelers #1 defense and they threw the Rock maybe 20 plus time with no run plays beating the squeelers like Brett Favre beat the Ravens #1 defense with 441yds! Or just wast time running on 1st and 2nd pass on 3rd and punt! Smh! LETS GO! My brother is a Dolphins fan and I don't wanna hear his trap! LOL LETS GO!

[gabrielgrissom]

Pete Prisco says "The Dolphins fired offensive coordinator Bill Lazor, which means they will go to more running this week and it will pay off against the Ravens". I don't think so. Miami might be without Pro Bowl Center Pouncey, and the Ravens are looking the best they have all year on the Defensive line. I say Miami will throw the ball over 40 times and the Ravens win

Well first off pete prisco never knows what hes talking about hes just a mere football fan hired to be an 'analyst'. But to your comment on the d-line... i think there is room for improvement I believe that we can play better... look before the year started we on paper had a top 5 o-line and d-line... Although he hasnt been terrible B-will hasnt been b-will (besides against the rams) in a few weeks... What ever happened to carl davis? he started out the year soo good but now is a healthy scratch... Canty has been a tear ever since the cardinals game but if we can put it all together we can be really dangerous again.

[gabrielgrissom]

fusuymada, couldn't agree more with your message. The refs have been terrible this season and it seems to be getting worse not better. ESPECIALLY against the Ravens. The Raider game and ESPECIALLY the Jags game. Plus a lot of momentum calls have gone against the Ravens. They could very easily be 7 - 4 right now. I don't get Steve not saying a word after the Jags game nothing crickets. I mean if winning is everything and that was a solid win and the owner says nothing, that tells me all I need to know that money is most important and winning is just the cherry on top. I love football so much I played little league on up to high school and just love the game that much, BUT if the officiating doesn't improve I might be on my way out especially if it continues to cost my Ravens W's. Even last night the refs blew it. That was NOT a face mask. Another team the refs cost them a W.

I agree with anything about your quote except on the face mask... incidental facemask a few years ago was changed from 5 yards to everything is 15 yards... and he did touch his facemask... i believe it was a bang bang call.

[reed20fence]

Regarding Brian McFarland's tweet, I'm gonna go ahead and apologize since I was one of the folks peddling this "dead money off the books will be our saving grace in 2016" -myth.

He's absolutely right, just looking at the top 25 guys on the roster alone shows rising cap figures of over $45 million added to the cap. Our dead money is only $23 million.

Edited December 4, 2015 by reed20fence

[rmcjacket23]

fusuymada, couldn't agree more with your message. The refs have been terrible this season and it seems to be getting worse not better. ESPECIALLY against the Ravens. The Raider game and ESPECIALLY the Jags game. Plus a lot of momentum calls have gone against the Ravens. They could very easily be 7 - 4 right now. I don't get Steve not saying a word after the Jags game nothing crickets. I mean if winning is everything and that was a solid win and the owner says nothing, that tells me all I need to know that money is most important and winning is just the cherry on top. I love football so much I played little league on up to high school and just love the game that much, BUT if the officiating doesn't improve I might be on my way out especially if it continues to cost my Ravens W's. Even last night the refs blew it. That was NOT a face mask. Another team the refs cost them a W.

It was 100% a facemask every single time. You've basically got unanimous agreement from anybody who's ever officiated football that call is going to be made 100% of the time.

Instant replay and television cameras has ruined the game for the officials, not officials themselves. It gives fans too much of a crutch to lean on and amplifies situations that don't require amplification.

As it were, they've already done studies on this. The amount of "incorrect/non calls" that the NFL has measured thus far this season is in-line with the standard error rate from the previous many seasons (roughly 4.5% failure). That pretty much debunks the notion of "the officials are screwing up more often".

Edited December 4, 2015 by Moderator 3
Don't start that again

[rmcjacket23]

It's gonna be a shootout in Miami so don't waste time running up the middle! Out of 10 plays you gotta run maybe "ONCE" to hit them in the mouth! And if some people want to know why I say this all the time I just watch the squeelers do it in Seattle and I got it from brady on a Monday night game against the squeelers #1 defense and they threw the Rock maybe 20 plus time with no run plays beating the squeelers like Brett Favre beat the Ravens #1 defense with 441yds! Or just wast time running on 1st and 2nd pass on 3rd and punt! Smh! LETS GO! My brother is a Dolphins fan and I don't wanna hear his trap! LOL LETS GO!

Yup, Roethlisberger and Brady have the exact same abilities as Schaub.

 

SMH. Wake up.

[rmcjacket23]

Regarding Brian McFarland's tweet, I'm gonna go ahead an apologize since I was one of the folks peddling this "dead money off the books will be our saving grace in 2016" -myth.

Common misconception is all. Its meaningless. 2015 dead money has zero impact on 2016 salary cap.

[Raven1995]

Well first off pete prisco never knows what hes talking about hes just a mere football fan hired to be an 'analyst'. But to your comment on the d-line... i think there is room for improvement I believe that we can play better... look before the year started we on paper had a top 5 o-line and d-line... Although he hasnt been terrible B-will hasnt been b-will (besides against the rams) in a few weeks... What ever happened to carl davis? he started out the year soo good but now is a healthy scratch... Canty has been a tear ever since the cardinals game but if we can put it all together we can be really dangerous again.

I read in the Baltimore Sun that they sat Carl Davis to get a good look at Brent Urban.

[reed20fence]

Common misconception is all. Its meaningless. 2015 dead money has zero impact on 2016 salary cap.

Though the part that I'm still hazy on is that both OTC and Spotrac show our salary figures hovering around ~145 million for 2016 as is. I guess he's implying that the remaining $10 million gets eaten away by rookie reserve and ERFA/RFA contracts? That would make sense.

So basically the name of the game will be the same next offseason. Restructure veteran contracts to raise money and part ways with vets that have sizable discrepancies between their dead money vs. cap figures.

[surfdude]

It was 100% a facemask every single time. You've basically got unanimous agreement from anybody who's ever officiated football that call is going to be made 100% of the time.

Instant replay and television cameras has ruined the game for the officials, not officials themselves. It gives fans too much of a crutch to lean on and amplifies situations that don't require amplification.

As it were, they've already done studies on this. The amount of "incorrect/non calls" that the NFL has measured thus far this season is in-line with the standard error rate from the previous many seasons (roughly 4.5% failure). That pretty much debunks the notion of "the officials are screwing up more often".

I'm anything but a "Homer" so for you to grab statistics from out of thin air is typical.

He brushed the face mask and grabbed his collar. That's what I saw and that is the only thing that matters. I don't care what talking heads have to say. I don't know where you get your info from but flags are way up this year. In regards with the Ravens the Jags game cost them a win with out a doubt. Yeah a lot of times Joe has been fouled and no flag. That's just another point that officials are all over the map and there is no consistency. To not see that is a person with their head in the sand.

[Corvus]

Lol @ Pete Prisco. "The Dolphins will run more against the Ravens, that will pay off."

Pretty sure we're still solid against the run dude, we all know pass defense is where the Ravens have struggled the most...

[Bat-mite]

BTW one of the "experts" predicted that the Dolphins and their new OC will run the ball against the Ravens which will be the deciding factor in the game. One can only pray that Miami sticks to the run--at least I am.

Got that Cheryl Crow song in my head:  "Run, baby, run, baby, run, baby, run, baby, run."

[rmcjacket23]

I'm anything but a "Homer" so for you to grab statistics from out of thin air is typical.

He brushed the face mask and grabbed his collar. That's what I saw and that is the only thing that matters. I don't care what talking heads have to say. I don't know where you get your info from but flags are way up this year. In regards with the Ravens the Jags game cost them a win with out a doubt. Yeah a lot of times Joe has been fouled and no flag. That's just another point that officials are all over the map and there is no consistency. To not see that is a person with their head in the sand.

1. No, what you see doesn't matter at all, because you've got no yellow flags and no striped jersey to wear. The ONLY thing that matters is what the officials on the field see. There is literally nothing less relevant than fans (including mine) opinions of what is and isn't a penalty. Those OPINIONS are literally the definition of "talking heads". We, as fans, are the talking heads.

 

2. My comment regarding error rate has nothing to do with the number of flags being thrown. Penalties are up because players are committing more penalties. The misconception is that officials are making more mistakes, which when judged by people who are qualified to make those judgments, isn't true. Those statistics were straight from Dean Blandino himself.

[reed20fence]

I'm anything but a "Homer" so for you to grab statistics from out of thin air is typical.

He brushed the face mask and grabbed his collar. That's what I saw and that is the only thing that matters. I don't care what talking heads have to say. I don't know where you get your info from but flags are way up this year. In regards with the Ravens the Jags game cost them a win with out a doubt. Yeah a lot of times Joe has been fouled and no flag. That's just another point that officials are all over the map and there is no consistency. To not see that is a person with their head in the sand.

I think the CFL just expanded the ability to challenge Pass Interference in 2014. The outcome of their League Championship was dependent on that simple rule change. If you read the Official League description of challenges they're very humble about their reasoning. The game is just too fast moving to expect a human being at field level to make an accurate judgment 100% of the time. 

The NCAA allows reviews to determine if helmet-to-helmet contact was made or to monitor for blocking violations on onside kick attempts.

Clearly the League is taking it seriously if committees are being formed or announced mid-season and Blandino is being publicly defensive to a ridiculous degree, which shows that it's striking a nerve.

Just let coaches challenge penalties using the 2 that they get. Make it a part of their strategy of rationing their opportunities.

[stixfix69]

I never believed in picks, i just believe in "on any given Sunday"...Win or lose as long as this team continues to compete to the very end, is all that matters to me.....

[surfdude]

Just let coaches challenge penalties using the 2 that they get. Make it a part of their strategy of rationing their opportunities.

I concur 100%. the game has gotten to fast for these guys. Wins and loses are at stake.

[surfdude]

Its not that the players are committing more penalties its that the refs are throwing more flags. I like what one retired ref said about throwing flags . "let the penalty speak for it self? A lot of these refs are flag happy and that is ruining the game and the sometimes costing a team a W. That's my point refs should take a back seat and manage the game to keep it in hand and let the players decide the out come not the zebras.