I believe in Buck Allen

[January J]

I actually think you are serious and it would be awesome if Allen had those kind of skills but he is not a naturally gifted runner. He has got some out of the backfield receiving talent I will give you that but to build a running game around him? Not gonna happen!

serious as a heart attack. We will see. Nobody thought forsett was starting material either until he got a shot and bursted out with 1200 some yards. Allen has more potential than forsett originally did so...

He was playing behind a makeshift offensive line against pretty much the number one defense starting as a rookie cut the kid a little slack.

Edited December 13, 2015 by January J

[January J]

That's an excellent observation of Buck Allen.

 

We definitely are a team with a huge lack of talent and based on our salary cap issues it's something we can't fix in a year. Our team is in some long - term trouble.

lol

Allen is not dynamic.

"That's an excellent observation there Danny I'm glad somebody actually agrees with me!"

[Winchester]

Cut Allen slack. Even AP lays eggs. Seattle showed zero respect for ravens throwing the ball!!

[Passepartout]

Allen has some potential. Just needs to take advantage of it.

[wizard1]

Does anyone really think he will do any better against the Chiefs? Here's what I see in Buck Allen. He run a couple yards and then he fall down and go boom. He catch a pass run a few yards and then fall down and go boom. In other words he has no slash and dash, no shake and bake and no razzle n dazzle. But he sure can butt fumble real good!

[wizard1]

lol

Allen is not dynamic.

"That's an excellent observation there Danny I'm glad somebody actually agrees with me!"

 

Sure dude you stick with your young talent like Buck Allen.

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000599908/Seahawks-Bobby-Wagner-recovers-Javorius-Allen-s-fumble

Edited December 14, 2015 by wizard1

[January J]

Does anyone really think he will do any better against the Chiefs? Here's what I see in Buck Allen. He run a couple yards and then he fall down and go boom. He catch a pass run a few yards and then fall down and go boom. In other words he has no slash and dash, no shake and bake and no razzle n dazzle. But he sure can butt fumble real good!

he's a rookie. Players mature and get better with experience, And players fumble. Not like it's been a reoccurring problem. Melvin Gordon has fumbled like 5 times this year. Sure look liked he showed some shake and bake on the 45 yard td in Miami last week. He made like 4 guys miss- why don't you show that link? He's got great vision, and he's great catching the ball. I'm not saying he's going to be Matt forte either but I think he will definitely be a strong weapon for us next season. Just keep doing what you do staying negative and bashing all our players, coaches, and front office. Edited December 14, 2015 by January J

[ALPHA]

For what it's worth I think our current corps can be serviceable if our oline looks good next season.

[wizard1]

he's a rookie. Players mature and get better with experience, And players fumble. Not like it's been a reoccurring problem. Melvin Gordon has fumbled like 5 times this year. Sure look liked he showed some shake and bake on the 45 yard td in Miami last week. He made like 4 guys miss- why don't you show that link? He's got great vision, and he's great catching the ball. I'm not saying he's going to be Matt forte either but I think he will definitely be a strong weapon for us next season. Just keep doing what you do staying negative and bashing all our players, coaches, and front office.

 

That was the Dolphins.!! Second worst defense in the NFL  Every dog gets a bone now and then.

 

Of course in your world nobody is responsible it's just bad luck and unfortunate injuries huh?

 

We aren't on the yellow brick road. Enough of your nonsense.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

That guy is and always will be a loser. But hey we gotta put somebody up there. Where is Ryan Leaf when you need him.

I thought your guy Buck Allen looked like a complete buffoon -- he had a Mark Sanchez butt-fumble and ran for 14 yards. What a stud.

No need to even mention Terrence West. The good news is we moved up 2 places in the draft!

I don't think Allen is all that great. I just thought he'd put up 50. Lol. I do like him as a 3rd down back because he's a solid pass catcher but he's just not a very good runner unfortunately. I was never a fan of west.

[52liveforever]

I actually think you are serious and it would be awesome if Allen had those kind of skills but he is not a naturally gifted runner. He has got some out of the backfield receiving talent I will give you that but to build a running game around him? Not gonna happen!

I agree with you that he's not necessarily a great runner. There is a certain running back I have compared him to that is year after year in the HoF running back in Roger Craig. Craig was a good runner, but not great. Like Buck he shined in the passing game. I think if we get a good #2 option I like Buck as the #1. Buck will never lead the league in rushing, but I think he could in total yards.

[January J]

That was the Dolphins.!! Second worst defense in the NFL Every dog gets a bone now and then.

Of course in your world nobody is responsible it's just bad luck and unfortunate injuries huh?

We aren't on the yellow brick road. Enough of your nonsense.

yes we have the most players in the league on IR and yes we have had a great deal of bad calls and crazy plays happen against us. That's not even debatable. So yes , a lot of this season was bad luck and injuries. There wasn't barely a single starter on offense today that started the season on week 1. Buck gets thrown into the starting role and is forced to carry the load as a rookie and your holding it against the kid for totaling 58 yards against the legion of boom. And I'm being unreasonable. Stop being a simpleton. Edited December 14, 2015 by January J

[RaineV1]

Allen did have more total yards against the Seahawks than Peterson did, but they aren't nearly as good at covering receiving backs as they are at stopping the run. I think the best solution for the Ravens would be having Allen as the backup RB and primary receiving back. Someone else can be the grinder to get rushing yards and run down the clock. Basically the way the Pats were using Dion Lewis and Blount.

[bravensfan52]

I had a thought last night. We have our Gio Bernard.... We need our Hill now... Herny and Allen thunder and lightning.

[GrimCoconut]

Lol it's hard to run the ball when the other team is nearly 100% sure you'll run the ball. That's asking a lot of the OL and RB.

If you think this game is any indication of his future, you're mistaken. We probably won't know this year, honestly.

[FlackAttack]

Buck Allen LOL

[January J]

Buck Allen LOL

hilarious.

[K-Dog]

hilarious.

I don't get it...

[PerpetuallyBored74]

I don't get it...

 

It's a mystery to everyone.

[K-Dog]

It's a mystery to everyone.

Cept for Flac... I recon.

[balfan23]

That was the Dolphins.!! Second worst defense in the NFL Every dog gets a bone now and then.

Of course in your world nobody is responsible it's just bad luck and unfortunate injuries huh?

We aren't on the yellow brick road. Enough of your nonsense.

So - on one hand, you're telling everyone they are crazy for judging Allen positively by his performance against Miami, because their run D is one of the worst in the league ... but on the other, you're judging Allen negatively by his performance against Seattle, when their run D is one of the best in the league.

That makes sense.

Perhaps we need to give him some time ... including time outside of this diseased season ... before we make a definitive assessment of his ability.

[wizard1]

So - on one hand, you're telling everyone they are crazy for judging Allen positively by his performance against Miami, because their run D is one of the worst in the league ...  but on the other, you're judging Allen negatively by his performance against Seattle, when there run D is one of the best in the league. 

 

That makes sense. 

 

Perhaps we need to give him some time ... including time outside of this diseased season ... before we make a definitive assessment of his ability. 

 

Do I have to agree with you because you are a moderator? Or can I say IMO I don't think he is going to get any better with time.

 

I'm not telling anyone they are crazy but;

 

This is a guy who fumbled at the one inch line and a guy who duplicated the Mark Sanchez butt fumble. He runs like a truck but unfortunately doesn't have truck size or speed. He has a 3.8 yard average and no rushing touchdowns. Unacceptable in a running back except on our team this year.

 

However he has proven to be a decent receiver out of the backfield so for that reason he would work well in a trade scenario.

 

The combination of Forsett/Taliferro/Allen/West is not going to strike fear in any opponent next year but this is essentially  what we will have because we are not drafting a RB and we sure don't have the money to bring in a hired gun..

[January J]

I don't get it...

I was pushing my sarcasm button. I didn't see what was funny.

[January J]

Do I have to agree with you because you are a moderator? Or can I say IMO I don't think he is going to get any better with time.

 

I'm not telling anyone they are crazy but;

 

This is a guy who fumbled at the one inch line and a guy who duplicated the Mark Sanchez butt fumble. He runs like a truck but unfortunately doesn't have truck size or speed. He has a 3.8 yard average and no rushing touchdowns. Unacceptable in a running back except on our team this year.

 

However he has proven to be a decent receiver out of the backfield so for that reason he would work well in a trade scenario.

 

The combination of Forsett/Taliferro/Allen/West is not going to strike fear in any opponent next year but this is essentially  what we will have because we are not drafting a RB and we sure don't have the money to bring in a hired gun..

no you don't have to agree with him. He was simply pointed out your hypocrisy. Once again you seem to be forgetting he is a rookie who started the season third on the depth chart who has been thrown into the starting role prematurely. Of course he's not ready to be a number 1. Your giving the kid crap for fumbling one time. Like I said before - Melvin Gordon was selected in the middle of the FIRST round and has fumbled FIVE times. Lol trade scenario. Yeah we will see if that happens.

[balfan23]

Do I have to agree with you because you are a moderator? Or can I say IMO I don't think he is going to get any better with time.

 

I'm not telling anyone they are crazy but;

 

This is a guy who fumbled at the one inch line and a guy who duplicated the Mark Sanchez butt fumble. He runs like a truck but unfortunately doesn't have truck size or speed. He has a 3.8 yard average and no rushing touchdowns. Unacceptable in a running back except on our team this year.

 

However he has proven to be a decent receiver out of the backfield so for that reason he would work well in a trade scenario.

 

The combination of Forsett/Taliferro/Allen/West is not going to strike fear in any opponent next year but this is essentially  what we will have because we are not drafting a RB and we sure don't have the money to bring in a hired gun..

Moderators do not require a level of respect above what should be afforded to anyone who posts on these boards. 

 

You're right - we're not drafting RB this year and not bringing in a hired gun, so we're going to have to make do with our current RBs. While I don't think they will appear on anyone's top 10 of the league, I think Forsett has been a godsend for this team. He's no AP, but he's really filled in at a low cost for this team, had  great year last year and was beginning to heat up before he went down (like the rest of our team). Allen appears to be a solid backup right now and at a minimum could be viewed as a good change of pace back if we eventually got more of a featured type back in the fold in 2017 or beyond. 

[usmccharles]

Judging Allen as our number one is just pure stupidity. We didn't draft him to be our number one, maybe some day but definitely not this year. He was third on the depth chart for a reason... Cut the kid a break people

[JoeyFlex5]

That was the Dolphins.!! Second worst defense in the NFL  Every dog gets a bone now and then.

 

Of course in your world nobody is responsible it's just bad luck and unfortunate injuries huh?

 

We aren't on the yellow brick road. Enough of your nonsense.

so youll acknowledge a RB facing a horrible defense but wont acknowledge when a RB plays one of the best in the league that completely sold out against our run? enough of your nonsense.

[wizard1]

Moderators do not require a level of respect above what should be afforded to anyone who posts on these boards. 

 

You're right - we're not drafting RB this year and not bringing in a hired gun, so we're going to have to make do with our current RBs. While I don't think they will appear on anyone's top 10 of the league, I think Forsett has been a godsend for this team. He's no AP, but he's really filled in at a low cost for this team, had  great year last year and was beginning to heat up before he went down (like the rest of our team). Allen appears to be a solid backup right now and at a minimum could be viewed as a good change of pace back if we eventually got more of a featured type back in the fold in 2017 or beyond. 

 

I agree with all of this. Right on!

[Tenacious Faulker]

You will see Sunday very clearly how wrong you are about Buck Allen. Again you are basing your assessment on the fact that he had a couple good games against the 2 worst defensive teams in the league.. Him and Terrence West combined will not total 50 yards from scrimmage. Combined!

You were of course correct about Sunday, but you missed my point.  Seattle is a great defense and between the lousy run schemes Trestman is calling up, the poor OL play and these tweo backs genral inexpereinces I didn;t expect muc against Seattle.  What I'm talking about is their future here and I still think one or both can be great.

[wizard1]

You were of course correct about Sunday, but you missed my point.  Seattle is a great defense and between the lousy run schemes Trestman is calling up, the poor OL play and these tweo backs genral inexpereinces I didn;t expect muc against Seattle.  What I'm talking about is their future here and I still think one or both can be great.

 

Safe to say I don't share your opinion on these two RB's but totally agree on Trestman. Just hope we get him and Pees outta here and just start over.