OTHER potential first round picks

[Cillmatic]

Seems like everyone on the forum are DEAD set on 5 players(Bosa, Ramsey, Tunsil, Stanley & Hargreaves); however our record may make drafting one of these men impossible. In this scenario are there any other players you'd be happy with?

[ravensnation5220]

Id say a lot of people will start to be big on Emmanuel ogbah considering our odds for a top 5 pick are slimming down. I see us going 5-11 or 6-10 and well pick somewherw between 6 and 10.

[JoeyFlex5]

stanley has a chance to fall for sure, if a tackle needy team sees a better value elsewhere then he could fall. but ogbah is my guy right now, i think well be somewhere between 6 and 10, solid range for him, ive been liking carl lawson since i recently looked into him as well. also i wouldnt mind seeing us work out a trade back and getting an extra 2nd and another 2nd next year as well and hope one of those 2 falls to us again, or take myles jack as i think he'd be a good fit and could alleviate alot of our dink and dunk coverage issues. 

 

im just praying to god ozzie is staying away from alabama because something worries me so badly that he would take a'shawn robinson or derrick henry in the first, it just seems like such an ozzie thing, and im scared lol

[allblackraven]

stanley has a chance to fall for sure, if a tackle needy team sees a better value elsewhere then he could fall. but ogbah is my guy right now, i think well be somewhere between 6 and 10, solid range for him, ive been liking carl lawson since i recently looked into him as well. also i wouldnt mind seeing us work out a trade back and getting an extra 2nd and another 2nd next year as well and hope one of those 2 falls to us again, or take myles jack as i think he'd be a good fit and could alleviate alot of our dink and dunk coverage issues. 

 

im just praying to god ozzie is staying away from alabama because something worries me so badly that he would take a'shawn robinson or derrick henry in the first, it just seems like such an ozzie thing, and im scared lol

If he's able to do some magic with our high 1st pick, drop down a little to take Ogbah, then trade back to the 1st to pick up Henry, I would be ecstatic.

[PurpleCity5]

Shaq Lawson. I'm a big fan, he is pretty explosive, mean first step, and I think his transition to a 3-4 OLB might be easier than any other prospect out there. He's a beast. 

Edited December 1, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Inqui]

stanley has a chance to fall for sure, if a tackle needy team sees a better value elsewhere then he could fall. but ogbah is my guy right now, i think well be somewhere between 6 and 10, solid range for him, ive been liking carl lawson since i recently looked into him as well. also i wouldnt mind seeing us work out a trade back and getting an extra 2nd and another 2nd next year as well and hope one of those 2 falls to us again, or take myles jack as i think he'd be a good fit and could alleviate alot of our dink and dunk coverage issues.

im just praying to god ozzie is staying away from alabama because something worries me so badly that he would take a'shawn robinson or derrick henry in the first, it just seems like such an ozzie thing, and im scared lol

Truth be tbh, I think Ozzie's more interested in national champions than Alabama. He also raided Miami back in the day (as of a couple of years ago he'd drafted more Hurricanes than... Crimson Tides?) and took two Criminoles after they won a couple of years ago.

So if the Tigers win we could be getting stuck into Ozzie for a Clemson bias.

[Clmraven]

If were picking around 10 instead of around 5, give me Deforest Buckner.

[ravensnick]

Shaq Lawson. I'm a big fan, he is pretty explosive, mean first step, and I think his transition to a 3-4 OLB might be easier than any other prospect out there. He's a beast. 

Lawson is easily one of the 5 best players in college football when he is on the field. Problem is, he had had lots of injuries. My personal pick would be Doctson if we end up in the 10-15 range. 

 

I'm really digging Buckner, but we have so many talented DL and very clear weaknesses at other positions. You almost have to go BPA in a need position this year.

Edited December 2, 2015 by ravensnick

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Not really a first rounder but I'd love to grab Josh Garnett from Stanford in the 3rd if he's still around. He's dominant.

[PurpleCity5]

Lawson is easily one of the 5 best players in college football when he is on the field. Problem is, he had had lots of injuries. My personal pick would be Doctson if we end up in the 10-15 range. 

 

I'm really digging Buckner, but we have so many talented DL and very clear weaknesses at other positions. You almost have to go BPA in a need position this year.

I don't know about picking Doctson that high. I think we could go another route honestly. I really think the 2nd round is where we go WR. 

[ravefan52]

Lawson is easily one of the 5 best players in college football when he is on the field. Problem is, he had had lots of injuries. My personal pick would be Doctson if we end up in the 10-15 range. 

 

I'm really digging Buckner, but we have so many talented DL and very clear weaknesses at other positions. You almost have to go BPA in a need position this year.

Pretty sure you're thinking Carl Lawson, not Shaq.

[RaineV1]

I think if the Ravens fall to the 9-13 range, Ogbah, Shaq Laweson, and if he fell a bit, Stanley would be the obvious favorites. However, Myles Jack and Mackensie Alexander would be two really good players to get at this range as well.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

I think if the Ravens fall to the 9-13 range, Ogbah, Shaq Laweson, and if he fell a bit, Stanley would be the obvious favorites. However, Myles Jack and Mackensie Alexander would be two really good players to get at this range as well.

 

Jack is too much a luxery pick for a team with so many needs like us. He makes a great second rounder though

[RaineV1]

Jack is too much a luxery pick for a team with so many needs like us. He makes a great second rounder though

I disagree. The Ravens need a linebacker that can cover. We need someone that can match up against tight ends and running backs out in open space. Mosley is average at best at it, and he's the best of our ILBs. Every team in our division likes throwing to tight ends, and the road to the Super Bowl will usually go through New England and Gronk. Jack is the guy that can match up with them and keep them in check. Someone like him would fill a need.

Edited December 2, 2015 by RaineV1

[PurpleCity5]

I disagree. The Ravens need a linebacker that can cover. We need someone that can match up against tight ends and running backs out in open space. Mosley is average at best at it, and he's the best of our ILBs. Every team in our division likes throwing to tight ends, and the road to the Super Bowl will usually go through New England and Gronk. Jack is the guy that can match up with them and keep them in check. Someone like him would fill a need.

I do agree, I think we need some athleticism at linebacker. We need someone who can cover TEs/RBs for us. Not a lot of guys like that honestly. I think Jack would be a solid pick, but I think there are some other guys out there who fit the bill.

[RaineV1]

I do agree, I think we need some athleticism at linebacker. We need someone who can cover TEs/RBs for us. Not a lot of guys like that honestly. I think Jack would be a solid pick, but I think there are some other guys out there who fit the bill.

Yeah, there are a other options and Jack probably wouldn't be my first choice when picking in the teens of the first round. But he would be one of the top five best players available during that stretch of the draft.

[Maryland]

Honestly, you look at who we have in our own division and the way the rest of the league is going and quickly realize you could use a guy like Myles Jack.

 

He would be covering the new age of the NFL: Pass-catching TEs and shifty RBs. (NE has two of the best in Gronk and Dion Lewis)

 

In our own division we have guys like Eifert and Barnidge who are too athletic for most LBs to cover, and who are too big for a safety to block on run downs. 

 

Plus you have guys like Duke Johnson, Gio Bernard, and Le'Veon Bell who are too quick for LBs to cover (especially Mosley as we have already seen).

 

Jack is like a combo Safety/LB who would allow you to match up without changing your base defense (extra important in these no-huddle days). 

Edited December 2, 2015 by Maryland

[Maryland]

Although to answer the question, I'm taking a shine to Ogbah. Really liked his game vs Baylor going against Spener Drango. I have to wonder how much his stock will rise leading up to the draft. Would not be surprised if he has a meteoric rise into the top 5-10 range with a good combine. 

[Dubs]

As others stated Ogbah would be my top target outside our top 3 or 4 names.

 

To throw a wild card in there (depending where we pick) Tre'davious White CB, LSU is one I think people will be enamoured with as the draft rolls closer. His burst and quickness is pretty special and he has the potential to be thrown out on an island and not worried about. Also played against some top tier competition. If he comes out I expect him to have a pretty good combine and I think he goes top 15 in the draft, so depending where we are picking he might be a very viable option. I will say I have some concerns on technique and physicality... reminds me a lot of Morris Claiborne coming out (who lets be honest most poeple liked and viewed as a relatively 'safe' pick.. so in terms of the comparison I mean as a compliment to college performance and nil potential).

[Jamal]

Robert, Smith or Jack would be my top choices if the top 5 are gone.

I like Ogbah, but don't think he's worth a top 10 pick.

[JoeyFlex5]

A trade back seems like a strong possibility because I know Steve is pounding the table for a edge rusher and I think Ozzie still wants a db, but after vh3 and bosa the value gets questionable, ogbah could be a target but it depends on how Ozzie ranks him. So if we trade back I think it becomes more of a game plan than one pick. Carl Lawson looks like a prototype ravens olb, I think he could be a trade back target, along with Mackenzie alexander or maybe Kearse as trade up targets as part of our master plan.

[balfan23]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look? 

 

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

 

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman? 

[Baltimore RAYvens]

I've been begging to get Jack since last year, and the idea of getting him would make me jump like Forsett after the win. He wasn't asked to rush the passer at UCLA so we're not sure how effective he could be at rushing the passer. He has the athleticism and football IQ to excel, but it's an unknown whereas a guy like Ogbah we know can rush.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look?

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman?

I'd be ok with it, but only if a trade back comes with it and we get an extra pick. I believe we can get better talents at edge rusher where our pick will be

[RaineV1]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look? 

 

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

 

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman? 

I think Treadwell will definitely be one of the BPAs in that range. He would also be a great compliment to Perriman. I think the early second is the best time to get a receiver in this draft, but I wouldn't be upset if they went with Treadwell in the first.

[usmccharles]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look? 

 

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

 

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman? 

I guess it wouldn't be that bad,  would just make me extremely nervous considering our luck picking wrs.   I'd rather go defense but honestly I haven't really looked at who will be there in that rwnge

[JoeyFlex5]

I guess it wouldn't be that bad, would just make me extremely nervous considering our luck picking wrs. I'd rather go defense but honestly I haven't really looked at who will be there in that rwnge

I'd have a hard time taking treadwell over Carl Lawson who will almost certainly be there in that range.

[Wildabeast88]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look? 

 

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

 

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman?

I like Treadwell but I feel the 2nd WRs are real good as well would probably still go pass rusher of some sort

[ravefan52]

If we fall down a bit in the order I would love to have Treadwell. I think he'd be a beast with Flacco.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm sure there will be much shrieking when I ask this ... but if we slide to the 10-15 range, do we not think that Treadwell would be worth a look? 

 

I know ... we have DESPERATE needs at edge rush and secondary, but I don't think we can say that our receiving corps is in good shape, can we? That said, what if there are no players we feel are true playmakers at those positions available when we select? Does that automatically call for a trade back?

 

I mean, we're all praying for SSS to stay and for Perriman to show up ... even if they do - SSS is good for only 1 year and wouldn't a guy like Treadwell, who is a solid route runner, has great hands and is a monster to bring down not be the perfect offset for Perriman? 

Depends on who is there, but I think we could do worse than Treadwell. It's a tight game between Treadwell and Ogbah for me at that point.