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When will we find out about Steve?

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I guess. They really got my hopes up because they said there was an announcement lol

i know I heard that too and my ears perked up but I knew it was too good to be true and too soon for an announcement like that.
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I would plan as if he isn't coming back, even if he does you can't put all your hopes on a 37 year old WR that is coming off an Achilles tear.

planned for pitta being out last year and looked how well that turned out
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It would be a good thing to have him back. Just can't count on a 37 yr old coming off Achilles to be the #1. It would be more interesting to find the next SS or #1 receiver in the draft with so many good receivers coming out lately. It would be nice to get Boyd,Thomas or Doctson early round2 or trade back into round1. A left tackle like tunsil and receiver completes the ravens offense. It would be nice if SS could contribute.

for the last time we are NOT getting laremy tunsil
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This thinking is pathetic. Just let the poor guy retire. Its not his fault the front office dropped the ball on getting good reciever talent around here

 

 

 The retiring situation is up to Steve Smith. I personally would not mind to see him return because he brings alot of heart and leadership to the team/offense. Maybe The Ravens could have done more and got their hands on a  good receiver but  they gambled on their young guys. 

 

The offense for the most part hasn't really been the main issue for The Ravens but the defense and Ozzie focused on the defense more this off season.

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planned for pitta being out last year and looked how well that turned out

Hmmm. Crockett turned into a good TE, we drafted Maxx and Boyle. And all three have flashed

 

So yeah, not that bad off especially since the second person I listed his a very high ceiling. 

 

Steve staying if he wanted to would make sense. He helps with the mentoring of the young bucks and he would still probably have good hands and be a good route runner. His explosiveness is probably gone because of the injury, but he'd be useful. 

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Hmmm. Crockett turned into a good TE, we drafted Maxx and Boyle. And all three have flashed

 

So yeah, not that bad off especially since the second person I listed his a very high ceiling. 

 

Steve staying if he wanted to would make sense. He helps with the mentoring of the young bucks and he would still probably have good hands and be a good route runner. His explosiveness is probably gone because of the injury, but he'd be useful.

with what todays doctors and medicine and what ap did a few years ago I'm not going to doubt what that dude has I his blood when he comes back hes like father time in where every time he's doubted I'm pretty sure he's undefeated
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Ozzie has a bad habit of returning to a well to many times. Keeps counting on a player til he retires or sucks. And it is how the ravens lost their way of drafting bpa. Ozzie desperately scrambles at last minute after a player retires or sucks. And the ravens then draft in desperation and reach for players like Elam, Upshaw,Brown,Perriman. Ozzie could of prepared for Reeds retirement with Harrison Smith. But Ozzie got cute!! Plan on the dude retiring and draft a freaking young talented receiver for a change to grow with Joe cool and build chemistry with his receivers. As opposed to signing all the 33-35 yr old castaways. If ravens drafted bpa the ravens could of ended up drafting Lockett or Diggs if Pro Day Perriman was not drafted.

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Or find a younger receiver in free agency or trade that's yet to break out. Bargains like that are the equivalent to draft steals. But Ozzie's idea of free agent bargains are old castaway players that Ozzie hopes has something in the tank. His so called bargain shopping this year should be very comical unless he shocks everybody and finds a young tedd Ginn or Emmanuel Sanders or a Brent Grimes type breakout players. Whenever I hear the name Ozzie I think of the character in the movie Leprechaun.

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Or find a younger receiver in free agency or trade that's yet to break out. Bargains like that are the equivalent to draft steals. But Ozzie's idea of free agent bargains are old castaway players that Ozzie hopes has something in the tank. His so called bargain shopping this year should be very comical unless he shocks everybody and finds a young tedd Ginn or Emmanuel Sanders or a Brent Grimes type breakout players. Whenever I hear the name Ozzie I think of the character in the movie Leprechaun.

Yea then when he signs your brian quick (insert whoever else) and they dont pan out, you will sit there and say the exact same thing about howhe bargain shops and goes after cheap players. 

 

I will agree with you that we need more WR talent and should possibly fire every scout that has to do with WRs.  IMO he likes veterans becaues he knows what hes getting, he doesnt overpay for them either.  We got SSr for what, 3 mill a year for 3 years? cant remember exactly but that is a hell of a good deal imo.  We cant go into a season signing free agents that just have a lot of potential and nothing else.  I have no issues with the veterans we bring in, although i wont be a huge fan of Nate washington and/or Roddy White if they sign here but it is what it is.  Getting Boldin and SSr were two massive signing for this team, his philosphy works, his drafting of WRs dont.

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I'm extremely torn on this, and its a very weird conundrum.  When Steve was in, especially this year, Flacco seemed to try and force him the ball and did not evenly distribute his targets and necessarily take what he was given as well as he could have.  That being said, Flacco does well with a veteran presence and Steve was like 6th in receiving yards before getting hurt.  The offense right (assuming healthy offensive line and Flacco) with Perriman would be interesting.  Since Smith went down Aiken has played extremely well, Gilmore was playing well before going down and Allen has been a receiving threat.  I agree another wide receiver with some real talent would be huge, but I like the offense of spreading the ball around more than with Smith in and focusing on Smith first.

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I'm extremely torn on this, and its a very weird conundrum.  When Steve was in, especially this year, Flacco seemed to try and force him the ball and did not evenly distribute his targets and necessarily take what he was given as well as he could have.  That being said, Flacco does well with a veteran presence and Steve was like 6th in receiving yards before getting hurt.  The offense right (assuming healthy offensive line and Flacco) with Perriman would be interesting.  Since Smith went down Aiken has played extremely well, Gilmore was playing well before going down and Allen has been a receiving threat.  I agree another wide receiver with some real talent would be huge, but I like the offense of spreading the ball around more than with Smith in and focusing on Smith first.

 

Only target Joe had consistent production was SSS.   Next year with Aiken you are not sure how Joe would do w/ him.   Also have to note that Steve is still the leader in yards.

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Yea then when he signs your brian quick (insert whoever else) and they dont pan out, you will sit there and say the exact same thing about howhe bargain shops and goes after cheap players. 

 

I will agree with you that we need more WR talent and should possibly fire every scout that has to do with WRs.  IMO he likes veterans becaues he knows what hes getting, he doesnt overpay for them either.  We got SSr for what, 3 mill a year for 3 years? cant remember exactly but that is a hell of a good deal imo.  We cant go into a season signing free agents that just have a lot of potential and nothing else.  I have no issues with the veterans we bring in, although i wont be a huge fan of Nate washington and/or Roddy White if they sign here but it is what it is.  Getting Boldin and SSr were two massive signing for this team, his philosphy works, his drafting of WRs dont.

I would never blame him for trying to find a young breakout player. Because even if it does not work out, it is not that expensive or hurtful to the salary structure. SS was very a good signing and very lucky he is productive at 36 yrs old. Because most receivers are done. And even the panthers cut him because of his age and believed he was done. And Ozzie has a terrible habit of returning to the well to many times. McKinney is an example of that. And now the ravens look to beg a 37 yr old coming off Achilles to play. Or Roddy White who is clearly a shell of his pro bowl self. And Ozzie's philosophy of patchwork receivers is being applied to the rest of the roster as pro bowlers leave,retire or are no longer impact caliber. Ozzie's lovers always defended Ozzie and his drafts void of pro bowl skill with ravens make the playoffs every year and won a Superbowl. But just like WCW was kicking butt at the dawn of the attitude era, the ravens rivals are stockpiling young pro bowl talent. Finding younger plGotta yet to break out at a bargain price especially receivers allows the players to build chemistry. It is similar to a draft steal. Gotta run finish this latr

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I would never blame him for trying to find a young breakout player. Because even if it does not work out, it is not that expensive or hurtful to the salary structure. SS was very a good signing and very lucky he is productive at 36 yrs old. Because most receivers are done. And even the panthers cut him because of his age and believed he was done. And Ozzie has a terrible habit of returning to the well to many times. McKinney is an example of that. And now the ravens look to beg a 37 yr old coming off Achilles to play. Or Roddy White who is clearly a shell of his pro bowl self. And Ozzie's philosophy of patchwork receivers is being applied to the rest of the roster as pro bowlers leave,retire or are no longer impact caliber. Ozzie's lovers always defended Ozzie and his drafts void of pro bowl skill with ravens make the playoffs every year and won a Superbowl. But just like WCW was kicking butt at the dawn of the attitude era, the ravens rivals are stockpiling young pro bowl talent. Finding younger plGotta yet to break out at a bargain price especially receivers allows the players to build chemistry. It is similar to a draft steal. Gotta run finish this latr

But banking on a young player who has never performed is very risky, i agree with you wee need to find a WR like that since we cant draft one it seems, but to ONLY rely on a young guy with potential would be a mistake, thats all im saying.  We still need to bring in a veteran, that does more than produce stats, helps mentor the younger guys at the position which is very important. 

 

And imo the only reason WCW fell off is because the management wouldnt work with Eric Bischoff anymore, read his book if you havent yet, fantastic read. 

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