Eugene Monroe - the workout warrior

[757RavensFan]

8 hours ago, 443hurricane said:

I've argued with Grim that he was our biggest bust FA ever..

 

I won't mention how I proved that he was over paid and fragile. But I absolutely love this thread.

Interesting to know how you proved he was fragile.  Especially considering he missed very few game before coming to Baltimore. 

So did you prove he was fragile his whole career or just while in Baltimore? 

[GrimCoconut]

8 hours ago, 443hurricane said:

I've argued with Grim that he was our biggest bust FA ever..

 

I won't mention how I proved that he was over paid and fragile. But I absolutely love this thread.

Nah, bro. Foxworth is the biggest due to what we paid him. In a lot of ways he's a lot like Monroe. I'll give you that Monroe has been bad lately, but he's good when on the field but not the best run blocker. That said, he's trending in bust territory without question for me.

[Tank 92]

IDK........this one ranks up (or should I say down) there with the worst.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/plus-pro-football-searcy-star-tackle-is-joining-ravens.html

[ludy51]

10 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

IDK........this one ranks up (or should I say down) there with the worst.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/plus-pro-football-searcy-star-tackle-is-joining-ravens.html

lol a $64.7 million NFL salary cap.

Those were the days

[GrimCoconut]

32 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

IDK........this one ranks up (or should I say down) there with the worst.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/plus-pro-football-searcy-star-tackle-is-joining-ravens.html

Good point. 

Seems we have bad luck giving contract extensions to former Jaguar offensive linemen, lol.

[LayerSeven]

On 11/26/2015 at 11:51 AM, ellicottraven said:

Eugene Monroe looks like the perfect WWE wrestler. That is all he is and ever will be - a workout warrior. Not a football player because he is too fragile (clearly) for football. A mosquito bite seems to sideline this guy! One of the poorer free agent signings of late it seems like. There may be people that defend him, but I'm pretty convinced this guy got his money and takes every opportunity to rest his body against an NFL beatdown! I don't know if his injuries aren't real, but I'm pretty convinced he doesn't go all out to play if he can avoid it. A shame especially after Hurst contributed  (albeit innocently) to Joe Flacco's season ending injury. I'm just angry that this guy who we paid so many millions to is proving to be so fragile!

Being injury prone doesn't make someone soft. This is a mans sport, physical, and injuries are inevitable. The "mosquito bite" reference just shows me you haven't played the game yourself. He was a solid player in Jacksonville. At the time when we initially signed him it wasn't bad at all. It's easy to say this now after the fact. No one can predict the future when signing players. 

[The Raven]

On 3/10/2016 at 8:15 AM, Danny D said:

I don't know.

Flacco gets seriously hurt for the first time in his career and right out of the box we are going to play musical chairs with his offensive line.  Not that retaining Monroe is key to Flacco's protection.  Monroe has been an under performer for us.

First we can't provide him with decent receivers, now Flacco you get no time to throw. 

Maybe beating Pittsburgh again is all 2016 is about.

 

 

 

I understand the logic here, but the fact of the matter is that our offensive line allowed 24 sacks, ranking third best in the NFL, and 81 QB hits, ranking 12th. Offensive line is cool.

[52520Andrew]

22 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Never forget Michael Huff

Hate to say it but Pitta has to be in consideration as well. 5 year 35 mil for 4 games

[Tank 92]

10 hours ago, The Raven said:

 

I understand the logic here, but the fact of the matter is that our offensive line allowed 24 sacks, ranking third best in the NFL, and 81 QB hits, ranking 12th. Offensive line is cool.

Don't think it's cool just yet.  Not sure how much Monroe contributed to that level of success and we've lost a key piece of the chain.   Hopefully Eugene steps it up and we also adequately fill the void created by KO's departure.

[rmw10]

He's certainly picking the wrong time to be so outspoken about something. 

[atomicfront]

On 3/9/2016 at 11:09 PM, ellicottraven said:

You know I just read a report on CNN on Marijuana for pain relief for NFL players. I was surprised that the mantle for this philosophy of pain relief through use of Marijuana is being propagated by none other than our own Eugene Monroe. I have no issues with this at all but the fact that he has the time to be the front man for social issues but doesn't take the time to suit up even with minor injuries is puzzling to me.

Now, after letting K.O go, we have no alternative but to hope that Monroe actually plays LT for us for 16 games this year. But, with him talking about NFL players being in constant pain and needing Marijuana to cope with it tells me that there is a possibility (not certainty by any means) that he had done it. With current NFL rules, that is a recipe for disaster in my view. If nothing else, he is going to be targeted a lot more for dope tests than others. Hopefully, the Ravens can renegotiate his contract and insert language that protects them in the event he is suspended for Marijuana usage. I don't care about him taking a pay cut, but I do want some protection clauses inserted into his contract to protect the Ravens.

Here is the article:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/health/nfl-marijuana-ban-eugene-monroe/index.html

You think a player is going to agree to change his contract against his benefit?  Some of the stuff people come up with.  And how do you know his injuries are minor? He has played football for a long time I am sure he has serious injuries.  He had a concussion the first game of the season.  He had a shoulder injury the third game of the season for which he had surgery for after the season.   I like how everyone just belittles players injuries like they could last one day in the NFL

[The Raven]

3 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Don't think it's cool just yet.  Not sure how much Monroe contributed to that level of success and we've lost a key piece of the chain.   Hopefully Eugene steps it up and we also adequately fill the void created by KO's departure.

 

Eh, Monroe was solid in pass protection. It's his run blocking that's a liability.

Edited March 15, 2016 by The Raven

[ALPHA]

Pass protecting left tackles don't exactly grow on trees, just remember that the alternatives are Hurst, someone off the scrapheap, or a rookie from a spread offense who has never come out of a three point stance.

[RayRave2]

6 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Pass protecting left tackles don't exactly grow on trees, just remember that the alternatives are Hurst, someone off the scrapheap, or a rookie from a spread offense who has never come out of a three point stance.

I'm with you. I don't like the tension between Monroe and management but he's massively talented and if he can stay healthy he will outside perform all other possibilities for us. Sure, i don't see him finishing his contract with us but I'm sure he can be professional for this season and perform well when healthy and allow a 2-4 round draft pick to develop a year at least. In my view guard is a much larger issue since KO is gone.

[ALPHA]

22 minutes ago, RayRave2 said:

I'm with you. I don't like the tension between Monroe and management but he's massively talented and if he can stay healthy he will outside perform all other possibilities for us. Sure, i don't see him finishing his contract with us but I'm sure he can be professional for this season and perform well when healthy and allow a 2-4 round draft pick to develop a year at least. In my view guard is a much larger issue since KO is gone.

You could make the argument that he's overpaid and injury prone, but he wasn't injury prone when we signed him soooo... is it it the exception or the rule? Even with buyers remorse he's a class act so he deserves a bit of professionalism.

[rmw10]

I'm worried about Monroe right now, and not his on field play. I'm okay with him being outspoken on an issue, but he's been having daily Twitter tirades. It's just... I don't know... Something doesn't seem right about his state of mind. 

[GrimCoconut]

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'm worried about Monroe right now, and not his on field play. I'm okay with him being outspoken on an issue, but he's been having daily Twitter tirades. It's just... I don't know... Something doesn't seem right about his state of mind. 

I just checked his Twitter. Seems like he's dealing with grief regarding his friend and former teammate regarding CTE. Seems to have ineffective coping mechanisms. I wouldn't be shocked if he retired after what happened to his friend Rackley. It seems to have really hit home for him. 

[Dubs]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I just checked his Twitter. Seems like he's dealing with grief regarding his friend and former teammate regarding CTE. Seems to have ineffective coping mechanisms. I wouldn't be shocked if he retired after what happened to his friend Rackley. It seems to have really hit home for him. 

Such a rough deal and as fans we likely make this more difficult by pushing it under the rug and saying just man up and get on the field...hope him well in that regard

 

On a side Ronnie Stanley is looking enticing with everything we have done so far--I am a fan personally and think he is a great fit. He comes from a good system, has been coached well, and given time should add core strength to his game.

[GrimCoconut]

4 minutes ago, Dubs said:

Such a rough deal and as fans we likely make this more difficult by pushing it under the rug and saying just man up and get on the field...hope him well in that regard

 

On a side Ronnie Stanley is looking enticing with everything we have done so far--I am a fan personally and think he is a great fit. He comes from a good system, has been coached well, and given time should add core strength to his game.

Ronnie Stanley makes a lot of sense to me as well. The only thing is it doesn't fit in some ways. Granted you can never pass on great value, but Castillo typically works with the day 3 linemen it seems. I also think it's high to take a backup LT unless we've already decided to cut Monroe..

[rmw10]

18 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I just checked his Twitter. Seems like he's dealing with grief regarding his friend and former teammate regarding CTE. Seems to have ineffective coping mechanisms. I wouldn't be shocked if he retired after what happened to his friend Rackley. It seems to have really hit home for him. 

Maybe it just seems odd to me being that he's historically been a quiet guy. I just hope for his sake that he's alright. It's likely not a coincidence that he's fighting this after 2 injury riddled years. 

[GrimCoconut]

14 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Maybe it just seems odd to me being that he's historically been a quiet guy. I just hope for his sake that he's alright. It's likely not a coincidence that he's fighting this after 2 injury riddled years. 

I agree. I also recall him suffering from a concussion last year that was reportedly nasty since it kept him out of action for weeks..

[ALPHA]

He's had a few concussions in his career but that doesn't necessarily mean he has CTE, he could just be upset about Rackley. They can scan for the disease in living athletes now anyway so it's not going to be as prevalent in the future, players will probably be forced into retirement.

[GrimCoconut]

24 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

He's had a few concussions in his career but that doesn't necessarily mean he has CTE, he could just be upset about Rackley. They can scan for the disease in living athletes now anyway so it's not going to be as prevalent in the future, players will probably be forced into retirement.

I'm not sure as to whom you are speaking, but just in case you're referring to my posts I never said anything about him [Monroe] having CTE. I said that he is likely upset about Rackley. 

57 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I agree. I also recall him suffering from a concussion last year that was reportedly nasty since it kept him out of action for weeks..

 

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I just checked his Twitter. Seems like he's dealing with grief regarding his friend and former teammate regarding CTE. Seems to have ineffective coping mechanisms. I wouldn't be shocked if he retired after what happened to his friend Rackley. It seems to have really hit home for him. 

This is to say that perhaps Monroe is upset about Rackley and his concussion last year shows an indication that he could perhaps think about retirement since other, younger athletes (a la Borland) have retired due to them due to the precedence of him having already suffered a concussion from at least last year combined with his recent grief related to his friend Rackley, who apparently seems to be really hit hard by his CTE. 

[rmw10]

47 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

He's had a few concussions in his career but that doesn't necessarily mean he has CTE, he could just be upset about Rackley. They can scan for the disease in living athletes now anyway so it's not going to be as prevalent in the future, players will probably be forced into retirement.

My bigger concern is that today isn't his first tirade. He's been going off on Twitter ever since his article was posted. It just seems out of character for him, even if he is passionate. I sincerely hope for his sake that he is alright. He's just off compared to usual. I sincerely hope it's just the passion. 

[Tank 92]

We need a Plan B.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Maybe with the new turf field going in, Monroe can play 10 games this year