Eugene Monroe - the workout warrior

[ratedr]

Another bad contract.

We're up against the cap yet have no talent.

[ellicottraven]

The most poignant takeaway is that the Ravens are a team that always utilize their cap space, but the fact that they really do not have any superstars to speak of is somewhat disappointing when you really think about it! So, who is to blame? Circumstance, contract practices, front office, medical staff or a combination of all? Something's got to change.

 

There needs to be a shake up of some kind to gain some degree of equilibrium in my view. I can't put my finger on what needs to change because individually each of those components have achieved a lot (with the exception of medical and training staff perhaps). How do you right this ship? Or are we making too much of circumstantial issues that we have no control over?

[ratedr]

Officially on IR.

 

I wish we could cut this bust but the cap savings wouldn't be worth it.

[Cillmatic]

Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that LT Eugene Monroe‘s future with the Ravens is in doubt.

Wilson points out that Monroe declined a simple contract restructure during the offseason that could have helped the team’s cap situation. The Ravens were reportedly disappointed with Monroe’s refusal to help them out.

This guys gotta go. Castillo apparently doesn't think he plays "like a raven" too. Awful signing Ozzie.

Edited December 12, 2015 by Cillmatic

[PurpleCity5]

If you ship him out, then who replaces him? Hopefully not Hurst.

[allblackraven]

Well, Zrebiec and Wilson must know something we, ordinary folk, don't.

 

As far as I'm concerned and if all that tweeted stuff has some truth in it (Harbs looked pretty annoyed when he was talking about it last week, too) - just cut his butt. We ate $20 mil of dead money on 140 mil cap, we can certainly eat his 6 on 150 mil cap.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just ship him out to like the Chargers, or Lions. They'll probably give a decent amount for him. If they can afford him.

We ship him to SD we have a chance for Stanley or Tunsil to fall

[ravefan52]

Why do we keep getting so screwed whenever we sign someone to a new deal?!? We've been so unlucky lately.

If we lose Monroe we're further away from contending again than previously thought. I though we could next year, but now it's looking like it may be a couple of years. We have big holes/question marks at LT, WR, CB, and OLB. Other than QB those are like the premier positions. Expensive and very hard to find.

[The Raven]

Zrebiec is all over Twitter saying that he thinks his time here is done.  Interesting to note one tweet where he questioned Monroe's fit here.  Said he never really bought in and that Castillo said that Monroe was still learning how to play like a Raven.  Zrebiec thinks it's in the best interest of both parties to move on.

Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that LT Eugene Monroe‘s future with the Ravens is in doubt.

Wilson points out that Monroe declined a simple contract restructure during the offseason that could have helped the team’s cap situation. The Ravens were reportedly disappointed with Monroe’s refusal to help them out.

This guys gotta go. Castillo apparently doesn't think he plays "like a raven" too. Awful signing Ozzie.

 

Yeah, If Z and Wilson say this, there's probably a good chance of Monroe getting shipped off or cut.

 

I understand why we extended Monroe and I'm not mad about it. We desperately needed stability on the offensive line, and even an average left tackle like Monroe is a keeper compared to what we were dealing with.

 

I hate Monroe as a player though. He's not enough of an butt to play offensive line. He's soft. I'm not talking about injuries. Dudes get hurt and there aren't many people like Yanda who can play through it. I'm talking about his blocking. He is soft serve. I can't remember ever seeing him put someone on the dirt. He's not tough enough as a blocker.

[darklight1216]

If my count is correct, Monroe should be the 20th player on IR this year. That means that in their 20th season, the Ravens have made franchise history by having the most players on IR.

 

Why do we keep getting so screwed whenever we sign someone to a new deal?!? We've been so unlucky lately.

If we lose Monroe we're further away from contending again than previously thought. I though we could next year, but now it's looking like it may be a couple of years. We have big holes/question marks at LT, WR, CB, and OLB. Other than QB those are like the premier positions. Expensive and very hard to find.

You might also add safety to that list.

 

With so many holes to fill, you start to wonder how quickly they can turn things around.

[Winchester]

Just cut this guy!! I keep saying if a player is not good enough to play then you need to find another player anyways. Peeps keep saying how do you replace Monroe for less than $3mil?? He has to be replaced anyways!! May as well save the money you can!! Cut this loser and put the cap savings toward keeping KO!! Then draft Tunsil. Who in my opinion is the future best left tackle in the nfl!!

[Militant X 1]

The most poignant takeaway is that the Ravens are a team that always utilize their cap space, but the fact that they really do not have any superstars to speak of is somewhat disappointing when you really think about it! So, who is to blame? Circumstance, contract practices, front office, medical staff or a combination of all? Something's got to change.

 

There needs to be a shake up of some kind to gain some degree of equilibrium in my view. I can't put my finger on what needs to change because individually each of those components have achieved a lot (with the exception of medical and training staff perhaps). How do you right this ship? Or are we making too much of circumstantial issues that we have no control over?

 

They really don't have that many superstars as we'd like to think imo.

[Winchester]

If my count is correct, Monroe should be the 20th player on IR this year. That means that in their 20th season, the Ravens have made franchise history by having the most players on IR.

 

You might also add safety to that list.

 

With so many holes to fill, you start to wonder how quickly they can turn things around.

What I keep saying. Hargreaves or ogbah is not going to turn the defense around. It is going to be a process!! I like Tunsil round1 and Boyd\Thomas or Doctson round2. BECAUSE, IT COMPLIMENTS AND COMPLETES WHAT THE RAVENS ALREADY HAVE GOING!! 2 young stud Runners especially Buck!! A franchise QB, 2 formidable guards,a Right Tackle that will reclaim elite status once over his injury, and an emerging physical strong intelligent hard working center!! A set of young TEs. One is perhaps the best blocking TE in the league and decent catching throws as well. The other, Maxx a Crafty smooth route runner with great hands and determined to reshape his body in the offseason and get stronger faster and more explosive and become a truly elite receiving TE as well as a competitive blocker. Ravens have many pieces in place. And an elite left tackle and legit WR could very well have the ravens run game and offense best in the league!! Ravens will control the clock while the physically dominant aggressive OLine will wear down opposing teams and own quarter4!!

[rmw10]

Yeah, If Z and Wilson say this, there's probably a good chance of Monroe getting shipped off or cut.

 

I understand why we extended Monroe and I'm not mad about it. We desperately needed stability on the offensive line, and even an average left tackle like Monroe is a keeper compared to what we were dealing with.

 

I hate Monroe as a player though. He's not enough of an butt to play offensive line. He's soft. I'm not talking about injuries. Dudes get hurt and there aren't many people like Yanda who can play through it. I'm talking about his blocking. He is soft serve. I can't remember ever seeing him put someone on the dirt. He's not tough enough as a blocker.

 

That's how I viewed it.  If those 2 have the inside info, I trust them.  It's hard for us since that is stuff we would have likely never known had they not mentioned it.  It definitely changes things when you here that type of stuff from very reputable reporters.  If he's a guy that isn't buying into the organization, then I absolutely see no room to keep him.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Trade him. Don't cut him. Some desperate team will bite and give a respectable amount for him.

Either way after today's news there's no doubt in my mind he's gone. Even if I think he's a valuable commodity.

[Winchester]

Trade him. Don't cut him. Some desperate team will bite and give a respectable amount for him.

Either way after today's news there's no doubt in my mind he's gone. Even if I think he's a valuable commodity.

I dunno dude, it would be nice to get around7 just to dump him on another team. But after his most recent injured reserve it could be a tough sell. Have you ever heard of selling ice to Eskimos?? It would take somebody very good in the ravens office.lol

[PurpleCity5]

Unless we plan on trading up for Tunsil or trading for a premier LT, then I don't see us parting ways with Monroe as of now. 

[PurpleCity5]

Who do people propose we replace him at LT with? Don't get me wrong, I'm seriously tired of Monroe's injuries but at this point we have no one to replace him with. You can say Tunsil all you want but he has to be there for us to take him, which as of now the chances of him being there are slim. I say Bosa is 50/50 but even if we are picking at 4 or 5, I don't see Tunsil being there. 

 

 

I also don't see why anyone would want to trade for this guy quite honestly. He can't stay on the field, has a pretty high cap hit, and when he plays, he is a good but not elite left tackle. Look at what Jacksonville gave us for Monroe, a 4th and a 5th, and that's when he didn't have the injury concerns or high cap hit. If we do trade him, it would hardly be beneficial as we would only get very little in return and still have to deal with his cap hit with no replacement at the helm. I'm taking these reports of him being cut/trade with a grain of salt. 

[rmw10]

Who do people propose we replace him at LT with? Don't get me wrong, I'm seriously tired of Monroe's injuries but at this point we have no one to replace him with. You can say Tunsil all you want but he has to be there for us to take him, which as of now the chances of him being there are slim. I say Bosa is 50/50 but even if we are picking at 4 or 5, I don't see Tunsil being there. 

 

 

I also don't see why anyone would want to trade for this guy quite honestly. He can't stay on the field, has a pretty high cap hit, and when he plays, he is a good but not elite left tackle. Look at what Jacksonville gave us for Monroe, a 4th and a 5th, and that's when he didn't have the injury concerns or high cap hit. If we do trade him, it would hardly be beneficial as we would only get very little in return and still have to deal with his cap hit with no replacement at the helm. I'm taking these reports of him being cut/trade with a grain of salt. 

 

I'm not sure it's a question of ability.  The bigger question, at least according to reports, is his overall fit within the organization.  If it's true that there is a sense of disconnect between Monroe and many entities within the organization, then he's as good as gone.  It's not like you can count on him to actually be on the field anyways at this point.  The truth is that we need a replacement whether he's on the roster or not.  I'd prefer keeping him for one more year, health withstanding, to let a young guy learn the ropes a bit.  If he's not a "Raven" though, he's on his way to the open market.

[Winchester]

The fact he can't play and is mediocre when he does and turned down a restructure shows he got payed and doesn't give a damn. With or without this overrated scrub the ravens need a left tackle be it Tunsil or Stanley or a round2 guy. Ozzie isn't doing himself any favors if this scrub and Jimmy are on the team next year and KO is not!! That is how bad teams run things. Ravens are going in that direction if Jimmy and Monroe are ravens and KO is not!!

[ratedr]

Say what you will about Oher but he was a team player (and now doing well in Carolina). Monroe is useless bum. Screw the cap, I hope we cut him.

[PurpleCity5]

I'm not sure it's a question of ability.  The bigger question, at least according to reports, is his overall fit within the organization.  If it's true that there is a sense of disconnect between Monroe and many entities within the organization, then he's as good as gone.  It's not like you can count on him to actually be on the field anyways at this point.  The truth is that we need a replacement whether he's on the roster or not.  I'd prefer keeping him for one more year, health withstanding, to let a young guy learn the ropes a bit.  If he's not a "Raven" though, he's on his way to the open market.

I am in favor of a replacement but it's tough to figure out where we would find one. I'd like to get a guy like Donald Penn or Russell Okung, but we are tight against the cap and have too many needs. The draft could be the place but the best LT there will be gone, unless we find ourselves in the top 2. I think we need to find a replacement regardless, but if we can't find one then I don't see how you cut bait with him. If he does not buy into the organization and vice-versa, then wow, I don't know what to say. I don't know what you do, on one hand, you can cut/trade him and find a replacement. On the other hand you can do the same but.... you don't find a replacement and go into next season with Hurst as your starting LT...then...well....lets hope Joe can run a 4.3. 

 

 

I think we need a replacement on back-up OT as well. I mean Hurst is the worst graded OL in the league, even if LT is a hard position to scout and find, you can still do better than that. 

 

It's a tough predicament and looking at the needs we have, maybe they give him one more year to prove himself. If he fails to do so then he's gone. 

 

Joe Thomas was up for trade, I would give up a 1st if that's our solution. 

[allblackraven]

Say what you will about Oher but he was a team player (and now doing well in Carolina). Monroe is useless bum. Screw the cap, I hope we cut him.

Mike got very unfair treatment from a lot of fans.

[rmw10]

I am in favor of a replacement but it's tough to figure out where we would find one. I'd like to get a guy like Donald Penn or Russell Okung, but we are tight against the cap and have too many needs. The draft could be the place but the best LT there will be gone, unless we find ourselves in the top 2. I think we need to find a replacement regardless, but if we can't find one then I don't see how you cut bait with him. If he does not buy into the organization and vice-versa, then wow, I don't know what to say. I don't know what you do, on one hand, you can cut/trade him and find a replacement. On the other hand you can do the same but.... you don't find a replacement and go into next season with Hurst as your starting LT...then...well....lets hope Joe can run a 4.3. 

 

 

I think we need a replacement on back-up OT as well. I mean Hurst is the worst graded OL in the league, even if LT is a hard position to scout and find, you can still do better than that. 

 

It's a tough predicament and looking at the needs we have, maybe they give him one more year to prove himself. If he fails to do so then he's gone. 

 

Joe Thomas was up for trade, I would give up a 1st if that's our solution. 

 

That's why it's tough.  Ideally you can find a replacement and bam, problem solved.  The decision on Monroe will likely be made before we have the opportunity to address the position, though.  If it was just an injury issue, then it would make absolute sense to keep him and hope he can put together a clean bill of health.  Since the issue is rumored to be deeper than that though, I don't know how you can keep him.  I know it opens up another hole, but I still have a hard time believing we'd hold onto a guy with whom there is a disconnect.

[rmw10]

Mike got very unfair treatment from a lot of fans.

 

Seriously.  Not going to pretend that Oher was a great player or anything, but the guy consistently went out there, fought hard, and did whatever the team needed.

[allblackraven]

Joe Thomas was up for trade, I would give up a 1st if that's our solution. 

I believe they wanted more than one 1st round pick for him. He is also too expensive for our salary cap. Worth every penny though.

[PurpleCity5]

That's why it's tough.  Ideally you can find a replacement and bam, problem solved.  The decision on Monroe will likely be made before we have the opportunity to address the position, though.  If it was just an injury issue, then it would make absolute sense to keep him and hope he can put together a clean bill of health.  Since the issue is rumored to be deeper than that though, I don't know how you can keep him.  I know it opens up another hole, but I still have a hard time believing we'd hold onto a guy with whom there is a disconnect.

Yeah, it sucks to see us fall into this trap. I guess that is just the way it is for us. I don't know what you do in this situation. On one hand, you want to find a replacement even though it's tough to find one, on the other hand, it he does not buy into the organization, then he has to go.

[PurpleCity5]

I believe they wanted more than one 1st round pick for him. He is also too expensive for our salary cap. Worth every penny though.

Cleveland lowered the asking price and asked for an extra 1st, 2nd, and 3rd(Which is just too much). I think they lower that asking price. We could offer 2017 first round pick, this years 2nd round pick, and Monroe and see what they would think about that. I think as Free Agency approaches they will lower their asking price and we could get something very beneficial. That's a hypothetical, I would send our best offer, one that would give them what they want, without giving up too much. 

Edited December 12, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[allblackraven]

Yeah, it sucks to see us fall into this trap. I guess that is just the way it is for us. I don't know what you do in this situation. On one hand, you want to find a replacement even though it's tough to find one, on the other hand, it he does not buy into the organization, then he has to go.

Well, one way is to use high draft pick on top OT talent, unload dead weight the best way you can and move on. Keeping him doesn't make lot of sense at all.

[PurpleCity5]

Well, one way is to use high draft pick on top OT talent, unload dead weight the best way you can and move on. Keeping him doesn't make lot of sense at all.

IMO Tunsil is the best LT in this draft but the chances of him falling to us are slim as of now. I'm having a falling out with Ronnie Stanley, he's a fit in our ZBS but he reminds me of Monroe. I question his toughness and "nastyness". I wonder if he has those "play like a Raven" qualities.