Eugene Monroe - the workout warrior

[Willbacker]

Whatever happened to the days when everybody wanted to franchize tag this guy.

 

The injuries are also a concern but I blame a lot of this on the new CBA which supposedly favored the players with lighter practices and less hitting. Go figger

[Raven'evermore]

 As much as I would like to see us get a CB or pass rusher, I'm thinking LT will be the first pick taken.  I admit I don't follow college football so I'm not familiar with who may be available, but I do know that we have to protect that blind side.  Might as well do it with a quality pick.  Joe's probably got a good 5-  6 years left at least.  Oh, and let's not forget that our first dynasty started with a LT named Ogden.  I don't think we were ever sorry for that pick.  As far as Monroe is concerned, I wish him the best, but even if he does well next season, I still say we go LT next draft. JMO.

[Static]

Surprise Surprise, Monroe is 'doubtful' vs the Browns.

[Purple Punishment]

How would Monroe fare at RT?? If we went LT in the first

[Shutdown215]

I don't see how he fits? My opinion is you don't spend a top 5 pick on trying to turn a 4-3 de into a standup OlB. I know it's been done before but it's never a sure thing and the Ravens need to knock this draft out of the park.

Plus I haven't watched a ton of bosa but does he ever rush against the LT? Him dominating the RT doesn't impress me as much

Thank you, I don't overstand it either. Just get a Hargreaves or a LT, we always find a rushers on later rounds who for our scheme to help with the pass rush

[rmw10]

I feel bad for the guy, and I'd never question his work ethic.  The dude is built like a tank.  I just think it's an unfortunate string of injuries for him.  It's no coincidence that his worst games in the past couple of years have been ones where he's been said to be less than 100%.  He's been great for us when fully healthy, but unfortunately for us and him, that hasn't been the case.

[52liveforever]

Hurst tripped over Aaron Donald when Jensen took Donald to the ground, just so we're clear on it not being Hurst's fault.

And he is a workout warrior and has like no fat on him. He's never once had a work ethic complaint or anything of that nature. You really think this guy would just slack off? I highly doubt it.

I'd take a long look at the trainers and medical staff. They botched Perriman's injury, Monroe was never injured in Jax, Jimmy was never injured at Colorado, they botched the Zuttah injury to the point that he went to IR, etc. There are several instances of players who never got injured all of a sudden becoming injury prone here. Some can't be helped, like the ACL tear or Forsett's, but so many could be avoided quite easily

I brought this up not long ago and it didn't get the thought I think he deserved. I think that now it's definitely something that can't be ignored and needs to be addressed.

[BmoreBird22]

I brought this up not long ago and it didn't get the thought I think he deserved. I think that now it's definitely something that can't be ignored and needs to be addressed.

I began to question it with the Perriman injury because that was flat out fishy.

And as someone else pointed out, the CBA doesn't help with less physical practices. Players just aren't getting the same real feel game practices.

It could be a whole host of things, but when Monroe comes injury free from Jacksonville and is frequently injured here, I have questions

[PurpleCity5]

Eugene Monroe is about to miss his 11th game in 2 seasons, that's just not want you want in a LT you've invested a lot in. 

[Static]

How would Monroe fare at RT?? If we went LT in the first

 

Wagner is way better than Monroe at this point.

[ellicottraven]

One word that summarizes the  Monroe deal - Duped!

[Jamal]

I don't see how he fits? My opinion is you don't spend a top 5 pick on trying to turn a 4-3 de into a standup OlB. I know it's been done before but it's never a sure thing and the Ravens need to knock this draft out of the park.

Plus I haven't watched a ton of bosa but does he ever rush against the LT? Him dominating the RT doesn't impress me as much

I never understand the fit argument. If you have a shot at a generational talent, why wouldn't you build your defense around him? Especially with it looking likely we'll be getting a new DC. Not to mention I think Bosa is a good enough athlete to be fine in a 3-4.

[Edgar]

One word that summarizes the  Monroe deal - Duped!

Have to seriously consider drafting a tackle with our first pick. This guy has underperformed and been a major bust.

If you're equally convinced by a corner,a pass rusher,and a tackle in round one we have to take the tackle. If we go elsewhere with our first pick he(Monroe)still needs replacing.

[redlobster]

I never understand the fit argument. If you have a shot at a generational talent, why wouldn't you build your defense around him? Especially with it looking likely we'll be getting a new DC. Not to mention I think Bosa is a good enough athlete to be fine in a 3-4.

Uhhh bosa is not a "generational" talent, he is the top pass rusher in an average pass rushing class imo

[Jamal]

Uhhh bosa is not a "generational" talent, he is the top pass rusher in an average pass rushing class imo

Even if you don't see him as that level of a talent, he's still the best pass-rusher in the draft. After QB, those guys are just as important as LTs. You wouldn't draft him just cause you have some commitment to running a 3-4?

[edthehead]

Even if you don't see him as that level of a talent, he's still the best pass-rusher in the draft. After QB, those guys are just as important as LTs. You wouldn't draft him just cause you have some commitment to running a 3-4?

just watched Ohio st play yesterday,I didn't know he played the against the offensive rt tackle , what I saw was a good player a sound player, so what is all the hype about, because he is the best in this draft class, that is not a good enough reason to spend a top 5 pick on ,,, imho if we do not go after a LT then I hope we trade back and accumulate picks for next year 

[Static]

Bosa reminds me of Bjorn Werner.

[Militant X 1]

I feel bad for the guy, and I'd never question his work ethic.  The dude is built like a tank.  I just think it's an unfortunate string of injuries for him.  It's no coincidence that his worst games in the past couple of years have been ones where he's been said to be less than 100%.  He's been great for us when fully healthy, but unfortunately for us and him, that hasn't been the case.

 

But soft like milk toast!

[Jamal]

just watched Ohio st play yesterday,I didn't know he played the against the offensive rt tackle , what I saw was a good player a sound player, so what is all the hype about, because he is the best in this draft class, that is not a good enough reason to spend a top 5 pick on ,,, imho if we do not go after a LT then I hope we trade back and accumulate picks for next year

So you're evaluating him on one game if I understand you correctly?

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I don't see how he fits? My opinion is you don't spend a top 5 pick on trying to turn a 4-3 de into a standup OlB. I know it's been done before but it's never a sure thing and the Ravens need to knock this draft out of the park.

Plus I haven't watched a ton of bosa but does he ever rush against the LT? Him dominating the RT doesn't impress me as much

I know they move him around the d-line from outside to inside and he has a great motor but would he be the best option for the Ravens? your guess is as good as mine at this point.

[BmoreBird22]

I don't understand why people say Monroe underperformed when healthy... he's routinely one of the best LT's in the league when he's actually able to stay on the field and he requires no help. He just goes out there and 1 on 1's his man and allows the rest of the line to shift their attention elsewhere. We've seen how much worse it gets with Hurst in

[GrimCoconut]

I don't understand why people say Monroe underperformed when healthy... he's routinely one of the best LT's in the league when he's actually able to stay on the field and he requires no help. He just goes out there and 1 on 1's his man and allows the rest of the line to shift their attention elsewhere. We've seen how much worse it gets with Hurst in

Yeah I don't get that either. They're definitely on point regarding his injuries. They're getting extensive now; however, he's a quality player when healthy. That's the biggest problem with him.

[Militant X 1]

I don't understand why people say Monroe underperformed when healthy... he's routinely one of the best LT's in the league when he's actually able to stay on the field and he requires no help. He just goes out there and 1 on 1's his man and allows the rest of the line to shift their attention elsewhere. We've seen how much worse it gets with Hurst in

 

Yeah I don't get that either. They're definitely on point regarding his injuries. They're getting extensive now; however, he's a quality player when healthy. That's the biggest problem with him.

 

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Those!  I feel the way I do about Monroe because the man is soft and has become injury prone and he can't seem to stay on the field.

Edited November 30, 2015 by Militant X 1

[GrimCoconut]

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Those! I feel the way I do about Monroe because the man is soft and has become injury prone and he can't seem to stay on the field.

Can't fault you for that. I think anyone has the right to question his desire to be on the field and whether or not he's soft. I personally don't think either is true, but maybe his pain tolerance isn't great and he's aging faster than others. Or maybe it's something else that's not even his fault. I have no idea.

I know I wish he'd stay on the field, but I truly believe (and admittedly hope) that he wants the same.

[PurpleCity5]

I chuckle when people clown Ozzie over Monroe's deal. As frustrating at it has been, he had no choice. When your OL consists of AQ Shipley, Gino Gradkowski, and Michael Oher, and your QB has been sacked 48 times(2nd in NFL), then you are going to make every effort to keep your lone bright spot and one of your best OL, whom you traded for. 

 

What else is he supposed to do? If you want to vent about a miss, vent about the Corey Graham miss, that one was awful. We had no choice but to keep Monroe. 

[Tru11]

yawn.

 

monroe is 1 of the top pass blocking LT when healthy.

 

those come at a premium price and the top Ts that got drafted lately all pretty much struggle except for a few.

 

no guaranteed you will find better in FA now that any of the T in the draft will work out.

 

our best hope is that the guy gets healthy.

[rmcjacket23]

I don't understand why people say Monroe underperformed when healthy... he's routinely one of the best LT's in the league when he's actually able to stay on the field and he requires no help. He just goes out there and 1 on 1's his man and allows the rest of the line to shift their attention elsewhere. We've seen how much worse it gets with Hurst in

Agreed. He's an average to above average LT when he's healthy, and that's precisely what he gets paid to be. He's not paid anywhere close to Joe Thomas or Tyron Smith and he's not as good as them.

 

Health is the only issue I see with him.

[BmoreBird22]

Agreed. He's an average to above average LT when he's healthy, and that's precisely what he gets paid to be. He's not paid anywhere close to Joe Thomas or Tyron Smith and he's not as good as them.

 

Health is the only issue I see with him.

I would definitely say above average, and even if he isn't Joe Thomas or Joe Staley (I think Smith is a tad overrated), he's been the best blindside protector that Joe has ever had.

 

I don't understand how people see Hurst play so abysmally, rip Hurst to shreds, and then say Monroe sucks. Baffling.

[rmcjacket23]

I would definitely say above average, and even if he isn't Joe Thomas or Joe Staley (I think Smith is a tad overrated), he's been the best blindside protector that Joe has ever had.

 

I don't understand how people see Hurst play so abysmally, rip Hurst to shreds, and then say Monroe sucks. Baffling.

Agree. I'm not of the mindset that we should be seeking a future LT in the draft necessarily, or at least not with our 1st pick, which would certainly give us a great shot at one.

 

I think we certainly need to upgrade the depth there though. A mid-round pick, possibly as early as 2nd round, for a swing tackle who can add depth and potentially grow into a future starter should be a high priority for us.

[BmoreBird22]

Agree. I'm not of the mindset that we should be seeking a future LT in the draft necessarily, or at least not with our 1st pick, which would certainly give us a great shot at one.

 

I think we certainly need to upgrade the depth there though. A mid-round pick, possibly as early as 2nd round, for a swing tackle who can add depth and potentially grow into a future starter should be a high priority for us.

The one guy I really hope they take as a swing tackle is Germain Ifedi. He'd need some serious polish, but I'd love to land him as a swing tackle option. 

 

I was really hoping they'd land Jake Fisher in the second last year, but they obviously didn't have a shot, or didn't want to spend what it would cost to trade up. 

 

I just do not see the Ravens as making some serious push to "upgrade" over a LT who has just recently had some injury issues in the second year of a five year deal.