Offseason Forecast

[Ravens2343]

I am off work for the holiday already and was bored so I decided to put together my "ideal" offseason for the Ravens.  I have taken points from posters on this board and combined them with my own thoughts. 

 

Before Free agency

 

Extend Flacco

Resign Tucker

Resign Chris Givens

 

Cut: Arrington (CB), Canty (DE), Levine (SS) and Pitta (TE)

 

I think we bite the bullet and either cut Pitta or he retires, we will suffer a hit in dead money but we will see some immediate cap savings as well.  Our 3 young tight ends will be good enough.

 

Free Agency

 

Sign Pierre Garcon (if cut) WR

 

Sign Nick Perry OLB

 

Sign Keenan Lewis (if cut) CB

 

Trade a 2016 4th round comp pick for Zach Mettenberger (QB)

 

Draft

 

For the sake of this post I am going to say we end up with the #3 pick.  Losing Flacco will cause us to lose the last 6 games and finish 3-13.

 

I believe we will receive (2) 4th round comp picks and (1) 5th round

 

With no trades for simplicity sake, here we go.

 

Round 1: Laremy Tunsil OT

 

With the signing of Nick Perry and Keenan Lewis in free agency we are able to take the absolute best player available and in this mock it is Tunsil.  He is projected to be a franchise left tackle and he can slide into LG for his rookie year as we let Monroe have one more chance.

 

Round 2: Emmanuel Ogbah DE/OLB

 

He has been gaining a lot of attention lately, but there are quite a few pass rushers who will all be competing to go in the first round.  Someone out of Lawson, Ogbah, Nassib, Calhoun or Buckner may fall to the top of the 2nd round.  In this case we get lucky and land Ogbah at the top of the 2nd round.

 

Round 3: Pharoh Cooper WR

 

We help out Flacco in picking Cooper who is very shifty and makes defenders miss.  He is not looked at as a polished route runner, but he has great speed and vision to make defenders miss and keep the chains moving.

 

Round 4: Kevon Seymour CB

 

Round 4 comp: Ryan Kelly-OL

 

Round 5: Tyler Johnstone-OT

 

Round 5 comp: Nelson Spruce-WR

 

I decided to stop at the end of round 5.  I used various sites to view player rankings and projections are where they may fall to construct this draft.

 

53 man Roster

 

QB: Flacco, Mettenberger

 

RB: Forsett, Allen and Taliaferro

 

FB: Juice

 

WR1: Garcon, Cooper

 

WR2: Perriman, Waller, Givens

 

Slot WR: SSS, Spruce

 

TE: Gilmore, Williams, Boyle

 

LT: Monroe, Johnstone

 

LG: Tunsil, Myers

 

C: Zuttah, Kelly

 

RG: Yanda, Urschel

 

RT: Wagner

 

 

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

 

DE: Guy, Urban

 

NT: Williams, KLM

 

DT: Jernigan, Davis

 

LOLB: Perry, Suggs, Smith

 

ILB: Smith, Brown

 

ILB: Mosley, Orr

 

ROLB: Doom, Ogbah

 

CB1: Smith, Walker

 

SlotCB: Webb, Seymour

 

FS: Brooks, Lewis

 

SS: Hill, Elam

 

CB2: Lewis, Davis

 

In this scenario I believe Spruce will take Campanaro's spot.  Taliaferro and West will battle it out for #3 duties, which I have Taliaferro winning that.  Hurst will be let go in favor of Johnstone, Myers will make good on his year on the practice squad and provide depth at LG.  I believe SSS will return for one more season and will have his workload dialed back a bit with Perriman, Garcon and Cooper all getting a lot of looks.

 

Defensively I think we will be better on the backend, but it still remains a question mark.  Signing Lewis gives us an experienced outside CB who can push Webb into the slot and safety looks from time to time.  Perry is a huge signing because now he can give Suggs adequate rest and Ogbah will start over Doom to keep him fresh. 

 

 

Please provide feedback as I was bored and probably missed a ton or made a far-fetched offseason forecast.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Ravens2343

[GrimCoconut]

I think I'd buy my tickets to the Super Bowl if we drafted Tunsil and Ogbah.

[January J]

I am off work for the holiday already and was bored so I decided to put together my "ideal" offseason for the Ravens.  I have taken points from posters on this board and combined them with my own thoughts. 

 

Before Free agency

 

Extend Flacco

Resign Tucker

Resign Chris Givens

 

Cut: Arrington (CB), Canty (DE), Levine (SS) and Pitta (TE)

 

I think we bite the bullet and either cut Pitta or he retires, we will suffer a hit in dead money but we will see some immediate cap savings as well.  Our 3 young tight ends will be good enough.

 

Free Agency

 

Sign Pierre Garcon (if cut) WR

 

Sign Nick Perry OLB

 

Sign Keenan Lewis (if cut) CB

 

Trade a 2016 4th round comp pick for Zach Mettenberger (QB)

 

Draft

 

For the sake of this post I am going to say we end up with the #3 pick.  Losing Flacco will cause us to lose the last 6 games and finish 3-13.

 

I believe we will receive (2) 4th round comp picks and (1) 5th round

 

With no trades for simplicity sake, here we go.

 

Round 1: Laremy Tunsil OT

 

With the signing of Nick Perry and Keenan Lewis in free agency we are able to take the absolute best player available and in this mock it is Tunsil.  He is projected to be a franchise left tackle and he can slide into LG for his rookie year as we let Monroe have one more chance.

 

Round 2: Emmanuel Ogbah DE/OLB

 

He has been gaining a lot of attention lately, but there are quite a few pass rushers who will all be competing to go in the first round.  Someone out of Lawson, Ogbah, Nassib, Calhoun or Buckner may fall to the top of the 2nd round.  In this case we get lucky and land Ogbah at the top of the 2nd round.

 

Round 3: Pharoh Cooper WR

 

We help out Flacco in picking Cooper who is very shifty and makes defenders miss.  He is not looked at as a polished route runner, but he has great speed and vision to make defenders miss and keep the chains moving.

 

Round 4: Kevon Seymour CB

 

Round 4 comp: Ryan Kelly-OL

 

Round 5: Tyler Johnstone-OT

 

Round 5 comp: Nelson Spruce-WR

 

I decided to stop at the end of round 5.  I used various sites to view player rankings and projections are where they may fall to construct this draft.

 

53 man Roster

 

QB: Flacco, Mettenberger

 

RB: Forsett, Allen and Taliaferro

 

FB: Juice

 

WR1: Garcon, Cooper

 

WR2: Perriman, Waller, Givens

 

Slot WR: SSS, Spruce

 

TE: Gilmore, Williams, Boyle

 

LT: Monroe, Johnstone

 

LG: Tunsil, Myers

 

C: Zuttah, Kelly

 

RG: Yanda, Urschel

 

RT: Wagner

 

 

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

 

DE: Guy, Urban

 

NT: Williams, KLM

 

DT: Jernigan, Davis

 

LOLB: Perry, Suggs, Smith

 

ILB: Smith, Brown

 

ILB: Mosley, Orr

 

ROLB: Doom, Ogbah

 

CB1: Smith, Walker

 

SlotCB: Webb, Seymour

 

FS: Brooks, Lewis

 

SS: Hill, Elam

 

CB2: Lewis, Davis

 

In this scenario I believe Spruce will take Campanaro's spot.  Taliaferro and West will battle it out for #3 duties, which I have Taliaferro winning that.  Hurst will be let go in favor of Johnstone, Myers will make good on his year on the practice squad and provide depth at LG.  I believe SSS will return for one more season and will have his workload dialed back a bit with Perriman, Garcon and Cooper all getting a lot of looks.

 

Defensively I think we will be better on the backend, but it still remains a question mark.  Signing Lewis gives us an experienced outside CB who can push Webb into the slot and safety looks from time to time.  Perry is a huge signing because now he can give Suggs adequate rest and Ogbah will start over Doom to keep him fresh. 

 

 

Please provide feedback as I was bored and probably missed a ton or made a far-fetched offseason forecast.

not sure about resigning givens- he hasn't done much, I also think we could do a little better than garçon. I would cut Kendrick Lewis and also let KO walk u less we can use him as trade bait. I'd franchise tucker unless we can sign him and get a fairly good deal with his recent misses. I like your draft outcome. This may be a dumb question but who the hell is spruce?

[Sami84]

not sure about resigning givens- he hasn't done much, I also think we could do a little better than garçon. I would cut Kendrick Lewis and also let KO walk u less we can use him as trade bait. I'd franchise tucker unless we can sign him and get a fairly good deal with his recent misses. I like your draft outcome. This may be a dumb question but who the hell is spruce?

 

you don't want keenan lewis..trust me..

 

robert myers is out of the league soon too

[Ravens2343]

not sure about resigning givens- he hasn't done much, I also think we could do a little better than garçon. I would cut Kendrick Lewis and also let KO walk u less we can use him as trade bait. I'd franchise tucker unless we can sign him and get a fairly good deal with his recent misses. I like your draft outcome. This may be a dumb question but who the hell is spruce?

 

I have KO walking and us filling his spot with Tunsil.  Tucker can be franchised or resigned long term, either way he is going to be here in 2016.  Garcon or Jackson are two well known veterans who probably will be cut, either one of them to me is a good signing. 

 

I have us keeping Lewis in this scenario because we failed to get Ramsey or sign Weddle or Gipson.  The FS spot in my scenario is still a weak spot, but signing a veteran corner like Lewis will allow us to play Webb at safety once in a while.

 

Nelson Spruce is a wide receiver form the University of Colorado.  He is a little bigger then Campanaro but has the same versatility and shiftiness in the slot that Camp has.  He would be an upgrade for the simple fact the Campanaro is never healthy

[Ravens2343]

you don't want keenan lewis..trust me..

 

robert myers is out of the league soon too

 

Id take any veteran corner who may be cut or is going to be a free agency.  Brandon Carr, Sean Smith or even Leon Hall could be options.

 

Myers was not worth a 5th round pick, but maybe working with Castillo for a year and developing under Yanda and KO will help him.  If not, then a cheap veteran signing at guard or a draft pick would be worthwhile. 

[January J]

I am off work for the holiday already and was bored so I decided to put together my "ideal" offseason for the Ravens.  I have taken points from posters on this board and combined them with my own thoughts. 

 

Before Free agency

 

Extend Flacco

Resign Tucker

Resign Chris Givens

 

Cut: Arrington (CB), Canty (DE), Levine (SS) and Pitta (TE)

 

I think we bite the bullet and either cut Pitta or he retires, we will suffer a hit in dead money but we will see some immediate cap savings as well.  Our 3 young tight ends will be good enough.

 

Free Agency

 

Sign Pierre Garcon (if cut) WR

 

Sign Nick Perry OLB

 

Sign Keenan Lewis (if cut) CB

 

Trade a 2016 4th round comp pick for Zach Mettenberger (QB)

 

Draft

 

For the sake of this post I am going to say we end up with the #3 pick.  Losing Flacco will cause us to lose the last 6 games and finish 3-13.

 

I believe we will receive (2) 4th round comp picks and (1) 5th round

 

With no trades for simplicity sake, here we go.

 

Round 1: Laremy Tunsil OT

 

With the signing of Nick Perry and Keenan Lewis in free agency we are able to take the absolute best player available and in this mock it is Tunsil.  He is projected to be a franchise left tackle and he can slide into LG for his rookie year as we let Monroe have one more chance.

 

Round 2: Emmanuel Ogbah DE/OLB

 

He has been gaining a lot of attention lately, but there are quite a few pass rushers who will all be competing to go in the first round.  Someone out of Lawson, Ogbah, Nassib, Calhoun or Buckner may fall to the top of the 2nd round.  In this case we get lucky and land Ogbah at the top of the 2nd round.

 

Round 3: Pharoh Cooper WR

 

We help out Flacco in picking Cooper who is very shifty and makes defenders miss.  He is not looked at as a polished route runner, but he has great speed and vision to make defenders miss and keep the chains moving.

 

Round 4: Kevon Seymour CB

 

Round 4 comp: Ryan Kelly-OL

 

Round 5: Tyler Johnstone-OT

 

Round 5 comp: Nelson Spruce-WR

 

I decided to stop at the end of round 5.  I used various sites to view player rankings and projections are where they may fall to construct this draft.

 

53 man Roster

 

QB: Flacco, Mettenberger

 

RB: Forsett, Allen and Taliaferro

 

FB: Juice

 

WR1: Garcon, Cooper

 

WR2: Perriman, Waller, Givens

 

Slot WR: SSS, Spruce

 

TE: Gilmore, Williams, Boyle

 

LT: Monroe, Johnstone

 

LG: Tunsil, Myers

 

C: Zuttah, Kelly

 

RG: Yanda, Urschel

 

RT: Wagner

 

 

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

 

DE: Guy, Urban

 

NT: Williams, KLM

 

DT: Jernigan, Davis

 

LOLB: Perry, Suggs, Smith

 

ILB: Smith, Brown

 

ILB: Mosley, Orr

 

ROLB: Doom, Ogbah

 

CB1: Smith, Walker

 

SlotCB: Webb, Seymour

 

FS: Brooks, Lewis

 

SS: Hill, Elam

 

CB2: Lewis, Davis

 

In this scenario I believe Spruce will take Campanaro's spot.  Taliaferro and West will battle it out for #3 duties, which I have Taliaferro winning that.  Hurst will be let go in favor of Johnstone, Myers will make good on his year on the practice squad and provide depth at LG.  I believe SSS will return for one more season and will have his workload dialed back a bit with Perriman, Garcon and Cooper all getting a lot of looks.

 

Defensively I think we will be better on the backend, but it still remains a question mark.  Signing Lewis gives us an experienced outside CB who can push Webb into the slot and safety looks from time to time.  Perry is a huge signing because now he can give Suggs adequate rest and Ogbah will start over Doom to keep him fresh. 

 

 

Please provide feedback as I was bored and probably missed a ton or made a far-fetched offseason forecast.

I thought tunsil was a LT?

[Ravens2343]

I thought tunsil was a LT?

 

He is, but he is an excellent run blocker and I am sure he would have no problem moving to LG while Monroe gets 2016 as his last chance with the Ravens.  I am pretty sure Jonathen Ogden started his rookie year at LG before moving to LT the next year?  Others have done it also, it is not that uncommon I don't believe

[PurpleCity5]

This is a really good mock, Ogbah and Tunsil would be really good gets. Ogbah especially in the 2nd round. I would do a flip if we got him in the 2nd round. I would honestly move back into the 1st for him.

I like Cooper as well, though I favor Dural there, I think Cooper can make some noise here.

I prefer Hargreaves/Ramsey over Tunsil, but I wouldn't be upset with him. I think he'll be 2nd on our board after Bosa.

Pairing Ogbah and Nick Perry would be really nice, I would love that.

Edited November 24, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Ravens2343]

This is a really good mock, Ogbah and Tunsil would be really good gets. Ogbah especially in the 2nd round. I would do a flip if we got him in the 2nd round. I would honestly move back into the 1st for him.

I like Cooper as well, though I favor Dural there, I think Cooper can make some noise here.

I prefer Hargreaves/Ramsey over Tunsil, but I wouldn't be upset with him. I think he'll be 2nd on our board after Bosa.

Pairing Ogbah and Nick Perry would be really nice, I would love that.

 

I may be in the minority here, but I think it is paramount that we sign a mid-level free agent at corner, free safety or outside linebacker.  Perry in my mind would be a better, more worthwhile investment then Eric Weddle or someone like Casey Hayward.  Perry should come cheaper then McPhee did for the Bears also, but pairing him with Ogbah would do wonders for Suggs and Doom.

 

After watching Dural this past weekend I was not as impressed with him as some are, he may even go back to school depending on how it all shakes out at LSU.  But to me both players would be upgrades over who we currently have.

 

I am a huge Hargreaves fan, but if we sign a veteran corner then picking a corner in the top 3 would not be necessary in where Tunsil could be our next Ogden.  Either way I would be happy with Tunsil, Hargreaves or Ramsey because all 3 guys fill an immediate need for us

[JoeyFlex5]

johnstone in the 5th? whoa. also ogbahs stock has been skyrocketing, he could find himself in the top 10 when its all said and done, i think there is a 0% chance he sniffs the 2nd round. and im not sure cooper is the kind of receiver we specifically want but i think he does find a niche.

[allblackraven]

johnstone in the 5th? whoa. also ogbahs stock has been skyrocketing, he could find himself in the top 10 when its all said and done, i think there is a 0% chance he sniffs the 2nd round. and im not sure cooper is the kind of receiver we specifically want but i think he does find a niche.

I fail to see how was Ogbah ever considered anything later than mid 1st rounder in this class. That guy is seriously good player.

[JoeyFlex5]

I fail to see how was Ogbah ever considered anything later than mid 1st rounder in this class. That guy is seriously good player.

i agree, i was putting him top 10 in my big board from day one when he was barely being projected as top 10 at his position lol

[Ravens2343]

johnstone in the 5th? whoa. also ogbahs stock has been skyrocketing, he could find himself in the top 10 when its all said and done, i think there is a 0% chance he sniffs the 2nd round. and im not sure cooper is the kind of receiver we specifically want but i think he does find a niche.

 

Johnstone tore his acl twice and has struggled with injuries at Oregon, I think he could easily slip in the draft with those medical red flags.  A lot of draft sites have him as a 4th-6th round pick at this point, obviously this early that can be taken with a grain of salt but its a base to start with.  Ogbah is skyrocketing, but anything can happen from now until May.  We as Ravens fan love him because he looks to be a perfect fit for a 3-4 OLB, but that does not necessarily mean every team will feel that way. 

 

I believe this draft class will see a big run on offensive lineman and wide receivers in round 1, maybe Ogbah, Nassib or Calhoun fall to us at the top of the 2nd.

 

I really like Cooper and I think he can make an immediate impact his first year, picking him though is based off of us signing a veteran receiver and getting SSS back.

[Sami84]

the player with potentially the greatest legacy in this draft is ramsey.

the player who we should avoid like a plague is robert nkemdiche. If we select him I will officially say that ozzie and crew have no eye for true latent.

[Cillmatic]

the player with potentially the greatest legacy in this draft is ramsey.

the player who we should avoid like a plague is robert nkemdiche. If we select him I will officially say that ozzie and crew have no eye for true latent.

You on the Ramsey train now?

[JoeyFlex5]

Johnstone tore his acl twice and has struggled with injuries at Oregon, I think he could easily slip in the draft with those medical red flags.  A lot of draft sites have him as a 4th-6th round pick at this point, obviously this early that can be taken with a grain of salt but its a base to start with.  Ogbah is skyrocketing, but anything can happen from now until May.  We as Ravens fan love him because he looks to be a perfect fit for a 3-4 OLB, but that does not necessarily mean every team will feel that way. 

i didnt know this and ive often seen him pegged as a late first. 

 

as far as ogbahs value, you cant project a first rounder to us in the second and just say "anything can happen", especially a rapidly rising prospect, you have to basically treat his current projections as rule, nobody in their right mind at this time last year could have legitimately projected la'el collins to go undrafted by saying "anything can happen", its just not practical, but i get what youre saying. and we dont just love him as ravens fans, pro scouts have thought very highly of ogbah for a while, and the media is just now catching up, i also had him mocked to us in the 2nd round but he was grossly undervalued at the time, pro scouts value the guy greatly as he can play DE or OLB in 4-3 and 3-4, respectively, and he is an extremely high character guy, hes basically a concrete lock for the first round at this point, he very well could go top 10, as a matter of fact id be shocked if he didnt go top 12

[JoeyFlex5]

the player with potentially the greatest legacy in this draft is ramsey.

the player who we should avoid like a plague is robert nkemdiche. If we select him I will officially say that ozzie and crew have no eye for true latent.

i like nkemdiche as a 2 gapper for us, his brute strength and quickness is for real, and under clarence brooks he would be the real deal, but i dont value him nearly as high as other top 10 prospects. 

 

i just feel ramsey and the ravens have a date with destiny, it just feels like its gonna happen and nothing is gonna stop it unless the chargers reach for him at 2nd or 3rd, and im hoping he is every bit as good in the pros as he is in college. 

 

id prefer tunsil or bosa, but would be happy with ramsey, hes a prototype ravens defender, i wanna bring back the attitude of the old guard and make our defense feared again, ramsey brings the swagger for that.

[PurpleCity5]

I may be in the minority here, but I think it is paramount that we sign a mid-level free agent at corner, free safety or outside linebacker.  Perry in my mind would be a better, more worthwhile investment then Eric Weddle or someone like Casey Hayward.  Perry should come cheaper then McPhee did for the Bears also, but pairing him with Ogbah would do wonders for Suggs and Doom.

 

After watching Dural this past weekend I was not as impressed with him as some are, he may even go back to school depending on how it all shakes out at LSU.  But to me both players would be upgrades over who we currently have.

 

I am a huge Hargreaves fan, but if we sign a veteran corner then picking a corner in the top 3 would not be necessary in where Tunsil could be our next Ogden.  Either way I would be happy with Tunsil, Hargreaves or Ramsey because all 3 guys fill an immediate need for us

I think its likely we sign a FA at OLB if anything. I think there will be some cap-cuts/FAs who can help fill the gap left by McPhee as a situational pass rusher. 

 

As for Hargreaves/Ramsey, It really depends on what we do in the off-season honestly. 

[GrimCoconut]

Here's a crazy thought: 

 

What if the Ravens traded with the Browns, who traded up to take a QB to replace Manziel because he doesn't seem capable of getting the job done, and in that trade, they acquire Joe Thomas from the Browns, of whom the Browns supposedly considered trading before the deadline, as part of that deal? 

 

I would absolutely take this deal if offered. We've seen the Browns make such moves in the past a la Richardson. 

[BmoreBird22]

Here's a crazy thought: 

 

What if the Ravens traded with the Browns, who traded up to take a QB to replace Manziel because he doesn't seem capable of getting the job done, and in that trade, they acquire Joe Thomas from the Browns, of whom the Browns supposedly considered trading before the deadline, as part of that deal? 

 

I would absolutely take this deal if offered. We've seen the Browns make such moves in the past a la Richardson. 

I'd about faint

[GrimCoconut]

I'd about faint

I know, right? Man, this would be a killer deal. It would only work if we got #1 overall and someone beneath us threatened to take the QB from the Browns. Still, they may bite. 

[BmoreBird22]

I know, right? Man, this would be a killer deal. It would only work if we got #1 overall and someone beneath us threatened to take the QB from the Browns. Still, they may bite. 

I don't even think they need the number one. No one is guaranteed to trade up to number one given the steep price.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't even think they need the number one. No one is guaranteed to trade up to number one given the steep price.

Yeah, true. I just don't see the Browns wanting to trade with us, so it would need to be a desperation move from them. It could still happen. I sort of hope it does. To somehow keep our 1st round pick (a high one, anyway) and get Joe Thomas from the Browns would solve a LOT of our problems. Yeah, he would eat up cap but he's only 30, so we're good there. 

[52520Andrew]

Gotta be a QB in the class good enough for a team to realistically give all that up though and I am sure they would be wary about doing it given what happened in 2012.

[GrimCoconut]

Gotta be a QB in the class good enough for a team to realistically give all that up though and I am sure they would be wary about doing it given what happened in 2012.

It all depends. We've seen the Browns make a trade for Trent Richardson. It doesn't necessarily have to be a QB, either. I just think that's the most likely scenario. It could be for Bosa or even Tunsil or someone like that. 

 

Getting a player like Joe Thomas for Tunsil and still have a 1st round pick would be legendary, and not at all unrealistic since the Browns were about to trade him just this year.

[Clmraven]

Gotta be a QB in the class good enough for a team to realistically give all that up though and I am sure they would be wary about doing it given what happened in 2012.

I think Goff will garner attention from a few teams he's been hyped up quite a bit. I think the best case scenario for us getting a huge draft day haul (talking multiple 1st rounders) is us having the number 1 pick and the Browns have the number 2, I think the Browns are gonna once again be targeting a QB and teams are gonna wanna jump in front of them as far as who we would trade with I'm thinking maybe the Eagles and the 9ers I'd say the skins would be looking too but I can't imagine they'd be stupid enough to mortgage their future twice. I'd never root for us to lose...but if we happen to lose Monday that could put us in prime position.

[52520Andrew]

It all depends. We've seen the Browns make a trade for Trent Richardson. It doesn't necessarily have to be a QB, either. I just think that's the most likely scenario. It could be for Bosa or even Tunsil or someone like that.

Getting a player like Joe Thomas for Tunsil and still have a 1st round pick would be legendary, and not at all unrealistic since the Browns were about to trade him just this year.

But that was just moving up one spot and was not the value of a guy like Joe Thomas. Wasn't entirely at you though as I think trading down could be a theme and the value can get messed up. How much did the Dolphins give up to move up for Dion Jordan? What the Bills gave up for Watkins would be pretty realistic though and if the Browns are in similar position, Joe Thomas could be on the table. Just don't see a 2012 type trade being realistic unless a QB separates themselves and we are at #1.

[52520Andrew]

I think Goff will garner attention from a few teams he's been hyped up quite a bit. I think the best case scenario for us getting a huge draft day haul (talking multiple 1st rounders) is us having the number 1 pick and the Browns have the number 2, I think the Browns are gonna once again be targeting a QB and teams are gonna wanna jump in front of them as far as who we would trade with I'm thinking maybe the Eagles and the 9ers I'd say the skins would be looking too but I can't imagine they'd be stupid enough to mortgage their future twice. I'd never root for us to lose...but if we happen to lose Monday that could put us in prime position.

If that happened, we would be in prime position with a likely bidding war for Goff(assuming he is the QB that goes off). We would likely get a ton of picks and still be in position to get a top guy on our board. People trade for who is on the board though so even if we get the #1 pick, we need a QB to entice them.

[Clmraven]

If that happened, we would be in prime position with a likely bidding war for Goff(assuming he is the QB that goes off). We would likely get a ton of picks and still be in position to get a top guy on our board. People trade for who is on the board though so even if we get the #1 pick, we need a QB to entice them.

There really only seems to be 2 guys that are projected high 1st rounders and thats Goff and Lynch, now the question is will the perceived lack of top end talent drive up demand for the top 2? I think it will. And call me crazy cause they just traded for Bradford but I could see Chip Kelly making a big move for Goff.