Possible 2nd round WRs - who would we choose?

[thieverycorporation]

He could split time with Givens as #2 and Aiken could play #3 along with Camp. Waller would be our redzone guy. Marlon has to go!

I don't think Camp will make it out of next training camp as it'll probably result in a broken fingernail. Dude doesn't know how to practice for crying out loud. And part of the problem this team is experiencing has been injuries. I don't think they will value him as high this coming year as he was just a seventh round after thought. They will surely not want to have continued scrutiny by the fan base, media and will look to be noticeably upgraded by end of training camp. Marlon is already gone and I'm shocked they haven't IR'ed him to get another prospect in that may actually have an upside. Waller is an interesting project and if not injured could stand more playing time. Givens has been a reliable target in each game and plays hungry. I like him on this team and only stands to reason he will only get better. Butler may also be a missing piece of the puzzle. Of course the absence of Flacco complicates the issues they face but at least they will have an opportunity to learn some of the aspects and complexities of the playbook. I personally think they should and ail devote more assets into the position. Players tend to compete @ just about the same level they think they'd have to beat out. Which wasn't saying to much about the current group. SSsr was the only real comp out there. And going against an injured/healing Webb (back) and Smith (back/foot) couldn't have been but so taxing. lol

[cushrinada1986]

I don't think Camp will make it out of next training camp as it'll probably result in a broken fingernail. Dude doesn't know how to practice for crying out loud. And part of the problem this team is experiencing has been injuries. I don't think they will value him as high this coming year as he was just a seventh round after thought. They will surely not want to have continued scrutiny by the fan base, media and will look to be noticeably upgraded by end of training camp. Marlon is already gone and I'm shocked they haven't IR'ed him to get another prospect in that may actually have an upside. Waller is an interesting project and if not injured could stand more playing time. Givens has been a reliable target in each game and plays hungry. I like him on this team and only stands to reason he will only get better. Butler may also be a missing piece of the puzzle. Of course the absence of Flacco complicates the issues they face but at least they will have an opportunity to learn some of the aspects and complexities of the playbook. I personally think they should and ail devote more assets into the position. Players tend to compete @ just about the same level they think they'd have to beat out. Which wasn't saying to much about the current group. SSsr was the only real comp out there. And going against an injured/healing Webb (back) and Smith (back/foot) couldn't have been but so taxing. lol

Camp may be too injury prone to think long term as a piece player but would hate to see him go elsewhere and become a problem on another team...

[thieverycorporation]

Camp may be too injury prone to think long term as a piece player but would hate to see him go elsewhere and become a problem on another team...

He's a bum. I don't think you have anything to worry about. But I understand your reluctance to let him go. But for someone who has failed miserably to shake the injury issue doesn't look to promising even in that respect. If they keep him it should be as a game day inactive. Only for insurance regarding another players misfortunate injury.

Edited December 7, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[cushrinada1986]

He's a bum. I don't think you have anything to worry about. But I understand your reluctance to let him go. But for someone who has failed miserably to shake the injury issue doesn't look to promising even that respect.If they keep him it should be as a game day inactive. Only for insurance of another players misfortunate injury.

That is solely why I think we should double up in the draft in WR this year. having a slot guy who can stay on the field would go a long way. Too bad though, kid had a lot of potential.

[thieverycorporation]

That is solely why I think we should double up in the draft in WR this year. having a slot guy who can stay on the field would go a long way. Too bad though, kid had a lot of potential.

The guy I have pegged for that is my rated highest (Sterling Shepard). He has all the qualities to line up anywhere on the field and succeed with consistency. We would assuredly have to leap up against stiff comp to select him. I seen him being mocked late 1st  to early 2nd round. Trending upward. If they select Boyd or Treadwell they probably won't select Shepard. But to me that would be a mistake and an epic failure. I know the combine will affect teams views of prospects so I hope they Ravens) take note of this dudes tangibles. He projects to me as a blend of a Cobb/E.Saunders.

Edited December 7, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[GrimCoconut]

The guy I have pegged for that is my rated highest (Sterling Shepard). He has all the qualities to line up anywhere on the field and succeed with consistency. We would assuredly have to leap up against stiff comp to select him. I seen him being mocked late 1st to early 2nd round. Trending upward. If they select Boyd or Treadwell they probably won't select Shepard. But to me that would be a mistake and an epic failure. I know the combine will affect teams views of prospects so I hope they Ravens) take note of this dudes tangibles. He projects to me as a blend of a Cobb/E.Saunders.

You think Sterling Shepard is a late first, early second round pick?

[thieverycorporation]

You think Sterling Shepard is a late first, early second round pick?

Oh yeah I do ! I think he will rise very quickly and surpass a couple of people. I actually seen several mocks where he is projected late 20tys. He and Treadwell were the only ones in that round. I watched his tape and I believe he'll test very well in the combine. Any bowls games if invited will separate him from the rest of the competition. If he runs 4.4 or less and runs the pass catching portions well that it will sky rocket him up into that round. Teams are hungry for that Edelman, Saunders, Cobb, I watched quite a bit of his tape and he runs pretty good routes, makes contested catches in traffic, gets separation, has speed and quickness and is not solely a package guy. He can take the top off with elusiveness, He finds soft spots well and fights for extra yards. So the pluses of a nil quality receiver exist currently in his profile and effectiveness at his craft. It's true that you can argue about the level of talent he may have faced. But thats an argument that must be made for any prospect. My ranking of Receiver currently- Treadwell/Boyd tie for 1st, Shepard 2nd pick 20-32, Coleman 3rd pick 20-32. But Shepard actually seems to have more going for him then Coleman. So if we passed on a early selection in the 1st round of Treadwell then I surely hope the Ravens have a contingency plan to acquire Shepard. Consistant pass catchers are very hard to find as we all know. And in the wide out department it's a must have. Beckham jr, Julio, Edelman, Bryant, Wheaton, are the ones that come to mind that you really never see the ball hit the ground when a reasonable ball is thrown their way. Thats just the way I see it.

Edited December 7, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[GrimCoconut]

Interesting opinion. I thought he'd be there in the third or so but maybe he goes earlier than I expect. That does seem to happen every year. Agholor was seen as a possible second round guy and then he goes higher than we can even select.

[thieverycorporation]

You think Sterling Shepard is a late first, early second round pick?

If you look at the NFL draft order(updated) segment and look under team needs you'll notice that the top teams in order have a similar need for upgrade at the position and ?'s name crops up consistently_- Mr. Shepard. The seniors are listed. Not all underclassmen. But even then…….

The Ravens would be foolish not to take him. 

I was introduced by another Ravens fan on this board and I tend to follow his/her post. We see a prominent role dude could fill here. I'd venture to say a line up of Perriman, Shepard, Aiken, Daniel Brown, Givens, Butler,Clay, Boyle, Gilmore, M.Williams Forsett, Mostert, West & an additional RB via draft & FA would present great options thru-out training camp into preseason cut downs. Any undrafted, walk-ons would be welcomed. I'd also make a play for JG from the Browns. I'm sure they (Browns) would entertain getting some kind of compensation and he'd be a rental that would have to play-out his original contract because he hadn't fulfilled the Browns. I truly believe a change of venue/org would do wonders for a guy who must have once really loved his craft to be so efficient on the field. Cleveland is in no respect even close to Baltimore. If Gordon wants to enjoy those same luxuries he's most likely accustomed to he'd see the error of his ways and want to be part of a winning tradition. Cleveland has that small town backwoods feel. Besides when your in a circus you can't help but clown it up. Dysfunctional parents rear dysfunctional offspring. Facts.

Edited December 7, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[Baltimore RAYvens]

The more I watch Corey Coleman the more and more I fall in love with him as a prospect. I don't think he's the best in the class, but I think he's the most exciting. All the talk about trying to trade back up to 31 to get that 5th-year option this is the guy I would want

 

Harris Highlights uploaded a Coleman video 

Edited December 24, 2015 by Baltimore RAYvens

[January J]

If you look at the NFL draft order(updated) segment and look under team needs you'll notice that the top teams in order have a similar need for upgrade at the position and ?'s name crops up consistently_- Mr. Shepard. The seniors are listed. Not all underclassmen. But even then…….

The Ravens would be foolish not to take him. 

I was introduced by another Ravens fan on this board and I tend to follow his/her post. We see a prominent role dude could fill here. I'd venture to say a line up of Perriman, Shepard, Aiken, Daniel Brown, Givens, Butler,Clay, Boyle, Gilmore, M.Williams Forsett, Mostert, West & an additional RB via draft & FA would present great options thru-out training camp into preseason cut downs. Any undrafted, walk-ons would be welcomed. I'd also make a play for JG from the Browns. I'm sure they (Browns) would entertain getting some kind of compensation and he'd be a rental that would have to play-out his original contract because he hadn't fulfilled the Browns. I truly believe a change of venue/org would do wonders for a guy who must have once really loved his craft to be so efficient on the field. Cleveland is in no respect even close to Baltimore. If Gordon wants to enjoy those same luxuries he's most likely accustomed to he'd see the error of his ways and want to be part of a winning tradition. Cleveland has that small town backwoods feel. Besides when your in a circus you can't help but clown it up. Dysfunctional parents rear dysfunctional offspring. Facts.

mostert was released....

Can't see us resigning givens either. Give his spot to somebody that deserves it.

[JoeyFlex5]

Ok guys I hate jumping on hype trains... But I'm seeing Corey Davis pop up more and more, haven't heard of him till recently, and this kid looks special so far, is there any knocks on him besides level of competition?

[Cillmatic]

Ok guys I hate jumping on hype trains... But I'm seeing Corey Davis pop up more and more, haven't heard of him till recently, and this kid looks special so far, is there any knocks on him besides level of competition?

Level of competition is a pretty big knock.

[thieverycorporation]

mostert was released....

Can't see us resigning givens either. Give his spot to somebody that deserves it.

That was quick for them to release him. I believe Givens struggles are QB related. He started to gel with Flacco. Schaub didn't see the field that well. Clausen has a weak arm @ best and doesn't throw well in tight spots.  Mallet maybe will get better results because he has greater arm strength and may prove him to be valuable in the receiving corp. I still think Givens could be placed in the slot given the opportunity and compete here in camp. I certainly wouldn't give up after trading for him and allow him to soak up the playbook. The rest of the squad really has no excuse for not knowing the plays because they had ample time to absorb more. 

[thieverycorporation]

The more I watch Corey Coleman the more and more I fall in love with him as a prospect. I don't think he's the best in the class, but I think he's the most exciting. All the talk about trying to trade back up to 31 to get that 5th-year option this is the guy I would want

 

Harris Highlights uploaded a Coleman video 

I'll go watch it. The ones I viewed previously didn't peak my interest in him.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I have a hard time believing Tyler Boyd can be there @ 2nd round.  

Corey Coleman, Demarcus Robinson, Demond King, Jayron Kearse would be pretty good picks.

[GrimCoconut]

I have a hard time believing Tyler Boyd can be there @ 2nd round.  

Corey Coleman, Demarcus Robinson, Demond King, Jayron Kearse would be pretty good picks.

Why not? It's entirely possible. I wouldn't take Robinson in the 2nd round, though. That's too early IMO. 

[Cillmatic]

I have a hard time believing Tyler Boyd can be there @ 2nd round.

Corey Coleman, Demarcus Robinson, Demond King, Jayron Kearse would be pretty good picks.

Jayron Kearse looks like an EXTREMELY pedestrian player.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jayron-kearse-vs-florida-state-2015/

Edited December 25, 2015 by Cillmatic

[PurpleCity5]

I have a hard time believing Tyler Boyd can be there @ 2nd round.

Corey Coleman, Demarcus Robinson, Demond King, Jayron Kearse would be pretty good picks.

If Boyd rises I can imagine someone falling, I would love to see Michael Thomas there at our 2nd. Edited December 25, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Ravenseconbeast]

Jayron Kearse looks like an EXTREMELY pedestrian player.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jayron-kearse-vs-florida-state-2015/

Yeah, he is starting to get worse as season went on. He doesn't look very motivated like past seasons.

[Winchester]

He's a bum. I don't think you have anything to worry about. But I understand your reluctance to let him go. But for someone who has failed miserably to shake the injury issue doesn't look to promising even in that respect. If they keep him it should be as a game day inactive. Only for insurance regarding another players misfortunate injury.

Campanaro is a bum but I would bet you have pro day Perriman penciled in as a #1 or #2 receiver next year. Guy cant rehab without injuring again!! And when Campanaro does play he has shown far better than Givens. Givens is a scrub!! Castoff a team in need of Receiver talent!! Says a lot of him!! He looks far slower than he did in college or as a rookie. Campanaro may be injury prone but a bum??!! Tell that to NFL cornerbacks that were shocked how tough he is to cover when finally playing him in person. The right conditioning program he could maybe shake the injury bug.

[Winchester]

Ok guys I hate jumping on hype trains... But I'm seeing Corey Davis pop up more and more, haven't heard of him till recently, and this kid looks special so far, is there any knocks on him besides level of competition?

I to like Corey Davis!! Been waiting for somebody else to say something. He could jump up draft boards. As for Shephard iam willing to be he gets selected before round3. He would have to ace the post season games and combine to be considered round1. Couple yrs ago a round3 guy but with all the success of receivers under 6' lately he is a round2 guy. NFL is finally getting it!! A receiver does not need to be 6'3 to possess top ball skills!! Perhaps out muscle dbacks yeah but does not have to be 6'3 for elite ball skills. There were several receivers I liked better than pro day Perriman.

[JoeyFlex5]

I to like Corey Davis!! Been waiting for somebody else to say something. He could jump up draft boards. As for Shephard iam willing to be he gets selected before round3. He would have to ace the post season games and combine to be considered round1. Couple yrs ago a round3 guy but with all the success of receivers under 6' lately he is a round2 guy. NFL is finally getting it!! A receiver does not need to be 6'3 to possess top ball skills!! Perhaps out muscle dbacks yeah but does not have to be 6'3 for elite ball skills. There were several receivers I liked better than pro day Perriman.

being the only person who refers to Perriman as pro day, I'm surprised to hear you like Davis, they look very similar, straight line speed, decent suddenness but nothing special there, very long limbs and makes great use of them, raw in the route tree but shows potential there.. I think they look like nearly the same guy on film

[Winchester]

Like him but not round1 or 2.

[RavensFanMania]

I to like Corey Davis!! Been waiting for somebody else to say something. He could jump up draft boards. As for Shephard iam willing to be he gets selected before round3. He would have to ace the post season games and combine to be considered round1. Couple yrs ago a round3 guy but with all the success of receivers under 6' lately he is a round2 guy. NFL is finally getting it!! A receiver does not need to be 6'3 to possess top ball skills!! Perhaps out muscle dbacks yeah but does not have to be 6'3 for elite ball skills. There were several receivers I liked better than pro day Perriman.

I think Perriman is going to surprise you Winchester.  Lets hoping he does.

[Winchester]

I think Perriman is going to surprise you Winchester.  Lets hoping he does.

Of course I want him to be good but so much against him. Low football iq,no route savvy for a receivers son,didn't play to his 40 time,low level competition. And that is before considering he may have knee probs. I liked Diggs and Lockett far better!! Not to mention the obvious like Beckham. I actually like fast smaller receivers 6' or less with underrated ball skills cuz of their size!!

[RavensFanMania]

Of course I want him to be good but so much against him. Low football iq,no route savvy for a receivers son,didn't play to his 40 time,low level competition. And that is before considering he may have knee probs. I liked Diggs and Lockett far better!! Not to mention the obvious like Beckham. I actually like fast smaller receivers 6' or less with underrated ball skills cuz of their size!!

I don't like a receiver whether they are big or small.   I do like Perriman and believe he is going to do well for us.  Worthy of his first round status.  His route running could use a bit of improving, but not as bad as you make it out to be.  If you look at some of his cut ups it shows all the talent that he has and why he was drafted in the first round.  He has loads of talent.  That being said, no one knows for certain. 

 

I liked diggs and would have loved to have him on the Ravens, but no earlier than the 3rd round.  We definitely could have used him for both his speed and return skills.  Same with Lockett, although less with Lockett as he was too much of a body catcher for my taste.  They are both poor men's OBJ's.  

Edited December 27, 2015 by RavensFanMania

[Winchester]

I don't like a receiver whether they are big or small.   I do like Perriman and believe he is going to do well for us.  Worthy of his first round status.  That being said, no one knows for certain.  I liked diggs but no better than a 3rd rounder and the same with Lockett.

I liked Lockett and Diggs late 2 to early 3. Same for Perriman but cuz of his size thought he would be bumped up to mid round2. But I liked Lockett and Diggs better. Perhaps I am a little bias toward fast shifty 6'0 or less with underrated ball skills!!

[RavensFanMania]

I liked Lockett and Diggs late 2 to early 3. Same for Perriman but cuz of his size thought he would be bumped up to mid round2. But I liked Lockett and Diggs better. Perhaps I am a little bias toward fast shifty 6'0 or less with underrated ball skills!!

I believe Diggs got knocked down due to his injury history although I didn't think that was fair as they were freak injuries and not recurring.  Also he was a terrible route runner.  That's not so much the case anymore.  It just goes to show you that with determination and coaching, route runnning can be improved, amongst other things. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I believe Diggs got knocked down due to his injury history although I didn't think that was fair as they were freak injuries and not recurring. Also he was a terrible route runner. That's not so much the case anymore. It just goes to show you that with determination and coaching, route runnning can be improved, amongst other things.

diggs was an excellent route runner the whole time. Injuries and the Maryland stigma were pretty much the only reason he fell. I still can't believe we passed on him so many times