Possible 2nd round WRs - who would we choose?

[Robbyrobbass]

Doctson or Treadwell

[Xmadraven]

Tyler boyd isn't overly fast, Seperation issues and has off the field issues no thanls. I'm not familair with this draft class (WR wise anyway) cause I scout after the season (though might start early cause schaub...) ANYWAY. Good traits to look for in a reciever is a guy who runs good routes (DUH but this is usually forgotten about if he's fast) Blocks for his teammates, Runs his route even if he know's he's not the primary reciever. Makes 3rd down catches, YAC ability, Big hands. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Great route running(Boyd is a great route runner), can compensate for lack of a deep threat/ speed. Since we have Breshad as a deep threat(and if you say that he doesn't play at 4.3-4.4 speed anyway I do have gifs I can whip up that show it).

Boyd is the safest of the bunch imo. Not a knock on the others, because Doctoson, Treadwell, and Coleman have higher ceilings. But even with the off the field stuff, we have his former WR coach. Who knows him better than anyone.

It makes too much sense.

[JoeyFlex5]

Tyler boyd isn't overly fast, Seperation issues and has off the field issues no thanls. I'm not familair with this draft class (WR wise anyway) cause I scout after the season (though might start early cause schaub...) ANYWAY. Good traits to look for in a reciever is a guy who runs good routes (DUH but this is usually forgotten about if he's fast) Blocks for his teammates, Runs his route even if he know's he's not the primary reciever. Makes 3rd down catches, YAC ability, Big hands. 

wrong on many fronts 

 

Great route running(Boyd is a great route runner), can compensate for lack of a deep threat/ speed. Since we have Breshad as a deep threat(and if you say that he doesn't play at 4.3-4.4 speed anyway I do have gifs I can whip up that show it).

Boyd is the safest of the bunch imo. Not a knock on the others, because Doctoson, Treadwell, and Coleman have higher ceilings. But even with the off the field stuff, we have his former WR coach. Who knows him better than anyone.

It makes too much sense.

right on every front

[jazz1988]

He probably won't be a second rounder unless his combine numbers are just great but I really like Wr Rashard  Higgins

[JoeyFlex5]

He probably won't be a second rounder unless his combine numbers are just great but I really like Wr Rashard  Higgins

the thing about it is that hes probably not gonna have good numbers. he lacks top end speed and will probably run in the upper 4.4 or even 4.5 range, and being only 6'1" and 185ish teams will basically write him off as a first rounder based on that alone, its pretty sad. he wont go top 20, and early 20s is a stretch, so the likely teams that will be looking at him will be cin, den, az, probably nyg, gb, and car, the only team i could legitimately see taking him would be carolina. cinci may want to replace jones but i would imagine they prefer doctson and coleman because of the higher ceilings if they even draft a wr, and i would say the same about carolina. there is a real possibility he falls to the 2nd round, after the combine it is very likely hes the consensus 4th wr on the board after treadwell, doctson, and coleman, and demarcus robinson and michael thomas have a very solid chance of going ahead of him as well, i personally like boyd better than any of them, especially for us, and i think our wr coach will be pounding the table for him after coaching him through college

[PurpleCity5]

I know I said Doctson earlier, but after thinking about it more and watching tape, I think I would get Boyd as well.

[GrimCoconut]

Boyd is my favorite WR because he's a guy we need here. He can run routes and he's got good hands. He's not the fastest guy out there but he's not slow. He's faster than Boldin was, I'd say. He may not be the best prospect but he's the best for us and that's what matters to me.

[52520Andrew]

I like Treadwell for us the most but I would be thrilled with Boyd in the second

[January J]

I'm on the Boyd bandwagon now too. Would yall trade up into the back end of the first for him or is it safe to say he will be there in the early 2nd? I think he's a perfect fit all things considered. Just hope the FO sees it that way.

[GrimCoconut]

I like Treadwell for us the most but I would be thrilled with Boyd in the second

I think Boyd is better because I don't think the value is right to justify taking a WR in the first. As a result, I think that makes Treadwell not an option because I think he's destined to be the first WR selected and I don't think he's a top 5 talent, and I'm not even sure I can justify taking him over others in the middle of the first, although I admit that would be a dilemma for me.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm on the Boyd bandwagon now too. Would yall trade up into the back end of the first for him or is it safe to say he will be there in the early 2nd? I think he's a perfect fit all things considered. Just hope the FO sees it that way.

I think he'll be there but it depends on the landscape of those picks. The draft order still isn't set and much can change.

[January J]

I think Boyd is better because I don't think the value is right to justify taking a WR in the first. As a result, I think that makes Treadwell not an option because I think he's destined to be the first WR selected and I don't think he's a top 5 talent, and I'm not even sure I can justify taking him over others in the middle of the first, although I admit that would be a dilemma for me.

yeah that's a good point. Grabbing treadwell in the first would be a mistake when we could come away with a combo of tunsil/ Hargreaves/ bosa and a Boyd. Although we could grab treadwell and then go Nassib in the 2nd but I just don't see us going receiver in the first again for a few different reasons.

[52520Andrew]

I think Boyd is better because I don't think the value is right to justify taking a WR in the first. As a result, I think that makes Treadwell not an option because I think he's destined to be the first WR selected and I don't think he's a top 5 talent, and I'm not even sure I can justify taking him over others in the middle of the first, although I admit that would be a dilemma for me.

Yeah I wouldn't take a WR with our first pick. If both made our second round pick however by some miracle, I'd take Treadwell. Flacco would love a guy to throw to like that on 3rd down(assuming we have him run past the sticks). Boyd would be a lot of fun as well though with his route running. Who knows what will happen, hopefully one of them runs a slow 40 that gets one to slip to our second rounder.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah I wouldn't take a WR with our first pick. If both made our second round pick however by some miracle, I'd take Treadwell. Flacco would love a guy to throw to like that on 3rd down(assuming we have him run past the sticks). Boyd would be a lot of fun as well though with his route running. Who knows what will happen, hopefully one of them runs a slow 40 that gets one to slip to our second rounder.

Yeah, I think I'd go Treadwell, too, if both somehow made it to our second pick by some luck.

[January J]

Yeah I wouldn't take a WR with our first pick. If both made our second round pick however by some miracle, I'd take Treadwell. Flacco would love a guy to throw to like that on 3rd down(assuming we have him run past the sticks). Boyd would be a lot of fun as well though with his route running. Who knows what will happen, hopefully one of them runs a slow 40 that gets one to slip to our second rounder.

not gonna happen. Unless something unforeseen happens like he gets arrested or gets injured duriing or before the combine. Stranger things have happened I suppose.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm on the Boyd bandwagon now too. Would yall trade up into the back end of the first for him or is it safe to say he will be there in the early 2nd? I think he's a perfect fit all things considered. Just hope the FO sees it that way.

id be willing to trade all the way up to 26 for boyd, just to play it safe, i really want him here

[January J]

id be willing to trade all the way up to 26 for boyd, just to play it safe, i really want him here

yeah I feel the same. We have the ammo might as well play it safe. I think it will pay off.

[Robbyrobbass]

Great route running(Boyd is a great route runner), can compensate for lack of a deep threat/ speed. Since we have Breshad as a deep threat(and if you say that he doesn't play at 4.3-4.4 speed anyway I do have gifs I can whip up that show it).

Boyd is the safest of the bunch imo. Not a knock on the others, because Doctoson, Treadwell, and Coleman have higher ceilings. But even with the off the field stuff, we have his former WR coach. Who knows him better than anyone.

It makes too much sense.

just like when we took elam bc our db coach at the time was very familiar with him smh

[Xmadraven]

wrong on many fronts 

 

right on every front

He's not beating double teams, his YPR is...Um what 10.4 yeards? Not a great showing of seperation right there. His route running needs work, off the field issues. No thanks I do not like immature recievers who cannot get seperation in college.

[January J]

He's not beating double teams, his YPR is...Um what 10.4 yeards? Not a great showing of seperation right there. His route running needs work, off the field issues. No thanks I do not like immature recievers who cannot get seperation in college.

what kind of off the feild issues?

[Xmadraven]

what kind of off the feild issues?

Susoended for the season opener for a DUI. Rumors of other stuff though it's all rumors.

 

I like his tape but it's nothing special, He's not getting seperation this year and he's a little undersized at 185-190ish. 

 

His routes aren't awful but they could definitley be better. He reminds me of kelvin benjamin a lot (Which is good in theory when you look at benjamin you know he can do better) Either way Ravens need WRs (Preferabley veterans) cause we cant expect SSS to produce at 37 off an Achillies tear, Perriman should be the no.2 or no.3 WR (depends on how far he develops but that should be the expectation for right now) Annnd boyd has dropped some key passes.  

 

[52520Andrew]

not gonna happen. Unless something unforeseen happens like he gets arrested or gets injured duriing or before the combine. Stranger things have happened I suppose.

Never know what happens pre draft, things can get crazy. Marqise Lee, Keenan Allen, plenty of examples. I agree it isn't likely but there is still a long way to the draft and anythimg can happen.

[JoeyFlex5]

He's not beating double teams, his YPR is...Um what 10.4 yeards? Not a great showing of seperation right there. His route running needs work, off the field issues. No thanks I do not like immature recievers who cannot get seperation in college.

most receivers dont beat double teams, they separate in man coverage and they find the soft spots in zone coverage, if a wr is being double covered with no real regard for the other "targets" on offense then that wr will struggle to get open, i dont care how good he is. 

 

how in gods name is YPC a display of separation? do you think separation means separating past the first down marker or something? youre talking about his abilities as a deep threat when he is well known as a short-intermediate technician with an extremely reliable and polished skillset, but you want him to burn safeties over the top and make jumpballs... you mus play a lot of madden huh? also, one DUI isnt off the field issues, college kids do dumb things, some get caught and some dont, boyd wasnt lucky enough to not get caught, and he hasnt been heard about off the field since.

[JoeyFlex5]

lol tyler boyd reminds you of kelvin benjamin? you literally have no clue what youre talking about

[GrimCoconut]

lol tyler boyd reminds you of kelvin benjamin? you literally have no clue what youre talking about

Yeah I thought that comparison was a bit confusing but no need to call him out like that.

I do question how much he's seen of Boyd.

Edited November 26, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[52520Andrew]

Yeah Benjamin was a physical freak who was really raw in his route running. Don't see that with Boyd

[52liveforever]

Susoended for the season opener for a DUI. Rumors of other stuff though it's all rumors.

 

I like his tape but it's nothing special, He's not getting seperation this year and he's a little undersized at 185-190ish. 

 

His routes aren't awful but they could definitley be better. He reminds me of kelvin benjamin a lot (Which is good in theory when you look at benjamin you know he can do better) Either way Ravens need WRs (Preferabley veterans) cause we cant expect SSS to produce at 37 off an Achillies tear, Perriman should be the no.2 or no.3 WR (depends on how far he develops but that should be the expectation for right now) Annnd boyd has dropped some key passes.  

 

 

You need to elaborate on how he reminds you of Benjamin. I don't see it. I will say I'm not high on getting Boyd as I would like someone explosive with big play ability, but I disagree with your assessment of him. He definitely gets plenty of separation and I don't know what rumor mill your reading in regards to "other stuff" and what that entails, but I haven't heard much.

[Cillmatic]

This is an awful year for WR's Treadwell's the only one that I think would have an immediate impact on teams.

[JoeyFlex5]

Yeah I thought that comparison was a bit confusing but no need to call him out like that.

I do question how much he's seen of Boyd.

well it comes off as borderline trolling to me, he is saying completely false things with such conviction.