Possible 2nd round WRs - who would we choose?

[GrimCoconut]

You find a way to talk about Bosa/Ogbah in every thread

That's not true at all but if it bothers you then you're welcome to block me. It won't hurt my feelings.

Although I do wonder why I felt the need to bring them up in this thread myself. I guess I got confused on threads.

Edited November 21, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[JoeyFlex5]

That being said. I think the first three off the board to go are Coleman, Treadwell, and Doctson. I think that they're the prospects with the highest ceilings.... Which is what GM's draft for. Boyd has a medium ceiling but a high floor. Best he'll probably be is a lower tier number one(think Keenan Allen... Very good WR but not elite. Probably his ceiling). Which would be fine be me. Mike Williams looks as such too based off of what I've seen. I'd rather have Boyd but would be happy with either.

i see boyd as practically a clone of keenan allen, i see some allen robinson in his game as well. 

[-Truth-]

I see Allen as a number one, albeit a lower level one. Which is honestly fine. He's still a number one lol.

I think Watkins is serverly held back by his QB play. If you were to give them the same QB, I think Watkins would make more plays. Just an opinion though. They're kind of neck and neck.

 

Ah, got it. With regards to the latter, the QB situation from last season certainly didn't help, but Tyrod Taylor hasn't had many issues in this department. However, we've also seen receivers overcome average and below performances from their signal callers, including several from this season, so Watkins should shoulder a portion of the responsibility. That being said, I feel that he's played well thus far, and his injury woes have prevented him from suiting up and putting up higher numbers. He has the talent to be a No.1. I don't feel that he's proven to be one just yet, but I could very well see him doing so in the near or distant future. Truth be told, until then, there are several receivers not on that list who I'd at least consider taking over him, like Allen Robinson, T.Y. Hilton and Emmanuel Sanders. That's just me.

Edited November 21, 2015 by -Truth-

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Ah, got it. With regards to the latter, the QB situation from last season certainly didn't help, but Tyrod Taylor hasn't had many issues in this department. However, we've also seen receivers overcome average and below performances from their signal callers, including several from this season, so Watkins should shoulder a portion of the responsibility. That being said, I feel that he's played well thus far, and his injury woes have prevented him from suiting up and putting up higher numbers. He has the talent to be a No.1, but I don't believe that he's yet proven to be one just yet, though I could very well see him doing so in the near or distant future. Truth be told, until then, there are several receivers not on that list who I'd at least consider taking over him, like Allen Robinson, T.Y. Hilton and Emmanuel Sanders. That's just me.

I can respect that opinion. Since the above mentioned WRs are good players.

[RavensFanMania]

I'd roll with Coleman, but it's difficult to cast the vote as I feel that he might sneak into the 1st.

I agree. Believe he is taken in the bottom 3rd of the first round. He'd be a very nice grab in the 2nd

[jazz1988]

I like Tyler Boyd. Ravens receiver coach Bobby Engram actually should know alot bout Boyd since he is the one that recruited him to Pitt and  helped him develop as a receiver. 

[cushrinada1986]

Boyd would get more targets and catches. Perrimen would get more yards and PI's. have Camp as the slot and Darren and Givens as the depth, the type of production Flacco could get out of that WR group would be beyond anything we have ever gotten before.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah. I honestly love the idea of us getting Boyd. I think he's a perfect fit here. Joe always seems to like those quality route runners because he seems to like throwing the ball to guys he trusts. Something about Boyd tells me he and Joe would just click and be practically an instant connection. Then there's the Engram-Boyd familiarity.

Boyd should be available with our second round pick, making him that much more viable and would be a perfect complement to Perriman.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

That's not true at all but if it bothers you then you're welcome to block me. It won't hurt my feelings.

Although I do wonder why I felt the need to bring them up in this thread myself. I guess I got confused on threads.

 

I find it humorous. They're some of my favorite players in this draft and I look forward to talking about just about every prospect you bring up

[January J]

What's up with that kid mccaffrey? Or will he not be eligible?

anybody ? I'm sure it's a stupid question but I just recently started following college ball.

[Inqui]

anybody ? I'm sure it's a stupid question but I just recently started following college ball.

He's a sophomore, so he'll be eligible next year.

[GrimCoconut]

I find it humorous. They're some of my favorite players in this draft and I look forward to talking about just about every prospect you bring up

I'm honestly not sure why I mentioned them here, to your credit. I probably got my threads mixed up. I'm just hoping we get someone good at this point. A bit saddened by the loss of Joe, honestly.

[thieverycorporation]

Yeah. I honestly love the idea of us getting Boyd. I think he's a perfect fit here. Joe always seems to like those quality route runners because he seems to like throwing the ball to guys he trusts. Something about Boyd tells me he and Joe would just click and be practically an instant connection. Then there's the Engram-Boyd familiarity.

Boyd should be available with our second round pick, making him that much more viable and would be a perfect complement to Perriman.

I agree but I see him sliding up like no other receiver because they (receivers) often do. And then the run on the top tier starts almost until the caucus is picked thin enough to warrant going in another direction. Which is why Ozzie probably felt the need to pluck Perriman when he did. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. The purge of vets from cap strapped teams will happen so we'll need some $ to help us out. I'm betting Ozzie moves back to get a qb somewhere in this draft. So top five will be up for grabs. The more picks the better as the team has been slowed to a crawl, no pun intended.

Edited November 23, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[GrimCoconut]

I agree but I see him sliding up like no other receiver because they (receivers) often do. And then the run on the top tier starts almost until the caucus is picked thin enough to warrant going in another direction. Which is why Ozzie probably felt the need to pluck Perriman when he did. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. The purge of vets from cap strapped teams will happen so we'll need some $ to help us out. I'm betting Ozzie moves back to get a qb somewhere in this draft. So top five will be up for grabs. The more picks the better as the team is has been slowed to a crawl, no pun intended.

I think we'll be able to get Boyd. I honestly think we'll finish in the top-5 of the Draft, and if that's the case, we'll have a legitimate shot at him. I think he will fall on draft day because WR of his ilk tend to do such since I don't expect him to be the most athletic specimen. He's a really talented WR and he is smooth, but I don't think he'll test the best. That doesn't mean he's bad. 

 

I hope he is there and I believe he has a great chance to be. If so, we must take him.

[Inqui]

I think we'll be able to get Boyd. I honestly think we'll finish in the top-5 of the Draft, and if that's the case, we'll have a legitimate shot at him. I think he will fall on draft day because WR of his ilk tend to do such since I don't expect him to be the most athletic specimen. He's a really talented WR and he is smooth, but I don't think he'll test the best. That doesn't mean he's bad. 

 

I hope he is there and I believe he has a great chance to be. If so, we must take him.

I always root for good draft prospects to come down with the flu shortly before the combine. Most overrated way to gauge how good a prospect is, and I never read much into a guy's 40 time.

[thieverycorporation]

I think we'll be able to get Boyd. I honestly think we'll finish in the top-5 of the Draft, and if that's the case, we'll have a legitimate shot at him. I think he will fall on draft day because WR of his ilk tend to do such since I don't expect him to be the most athletic specimen. He's a really talented WR and he is smooth, but I don't think he'll test the best. That doesn't mean he's bad. 

 

I hope he is there and I believe he has a great chance to be. If so, we must take him.

I got yeah. I think you maybe right. What mold of a current player do you see him. Would you compare him to Josh Gordon style/skillset. If not, who does remind of him coming out either this year or next? 

[Inqui]

I got yeah. I think you maybe right. What mold of a current player do you see him. Would you compare him to Josh Gordon style/skillset. If not, who does remind of him coming out either this year or next? 

The consensus comparison is Keenan Allen - very good route runner with good hands but not the game-breaking speed teams are in love with.

[thieverycorporation]

I always root for good draft prospects to come down with the flu shortly before the combine. Most overrated way to gauge how good a prospect is, and I never read much into a guy's 40 time.

You think that 

 

The consensus comparison is Keenan Allen - very good route runner with good hands but not the game-breaking speed teams are in love with.

Is there a Josh gordon in this draft ? Anywhere in the rounds? Style wise but maybe not as consistent?

[GrimCoconut]

I got yeah. I think you maybe right. What mold of a current player do you see him. Would you compare him to Josh Gordon style/skillset. If not, who does remind of him coming out either this year or next? 

The consensus comparison is Keenan Allen - very good route runner with good hands but not the game-breaking speed teams are in love with.

I read today that he compares to Nelson Agholor and I think that's a really good comparison. I can also see a slightly slower DeAndre Hopkins. These guys are all quality route-runners with nice hands. 

[thieverycorporation]

I read today that he compares to Nelson Agholor and I think that's a really good comparison. I can also see a slightly slower DeAndre Hopkins. These guys are all quality route-runners with nice hands. 

Okay. What you think he may run in the forty

[GrimCoconut]

Okay. What you think he may run in the forty

No idea, but he plays like he's 4.5 or so. I think he could run around 4.4. He's not at all slow, mind you. He's got good speed. He's not going to burn you, but I think he's sneaky fast. He's got more long speed than anything. He's not exceptionally explosive, hence why I think he compares to Hopkins. 

Edited November 23, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[Baltimore RAYvens]

I'm honestly not sure why I mentioned them here, to your credit. I probably got my threads mixed up. I'm just hoping we get someone good at this point. A bit saddened by the loss of Joe, honestly.

 

Silver linings my friend. With Joe I still held out hope for us winning some games. I seriously doubt Schaub will come in and be good for more than 1 win nearly cementing our place in the top 5 of the draft and setting us up for Boyd in the secon

[thieverycorporation]

No idea, but he plays like he's 4.5 or so. I think he could run around 4.4. He's not at all slow, mind you. He's got good speed. He's not going to burn you, but I think he's sneaky fast. He's got more long speed than anything. He's not exceptionally explosive, hence why I think he compares to Hopkins. 

I get your point. I would excited for the type player. I know I might be a alone with this one. Seriously, I'd like to pickup Josh Gordon. I have the feeling that dude just needs a fresh start and here would be great and he'd straighten himself out. The structure here is 4k and the browns are using the original modem. Sad but true. He would respect the Ballsohard on the field and network with doom suggs flacco forsett perriman off it. He wouldn't have time to screw up because he's in a new atmosphere. All the pressure of being the absolute go to is nullified. Harbaugh is the one coach besides Tomlin that could help this guy turn that corner and never look back. They (Ravens) say they believe in second chances. I say the move would solve a lot of problems. Make it a reasonable deal with benchmarks to reach. I'd don't know if he's still under contract (Browns) because of his suspension status. I really believe this ail have learned his lesson. But I could pry this dude loose i'd try. 

Edited November 23, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[GrimCoconut]

Silver linings my friend. With Joe I still held out hope for us winning some games. I seriously doubt Schaub will come in and be good for more than 1 win nearly cementing our place in the top 5 of the draft and setting us up for Boyd in the secon

Yeah. Honestly, I want Ogbah, but I won't be mad if we take Tunsil with our first and Boyd with our second. It wouldn't help the defense per se, but it would mean that the offense could maybe stay on the field longer and not put the defense out there. I really want Hargreaves and Ogbah the most, but I think it's unlikely we get both and only get one. 

 

Then again, Castillo typically makes the best of late-round players, so who knows what'll happen. 

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Yeah. Honestly, I want Ogbah, but I won't be mad if we take Tunsil with our first and Boyd with our second. It wouldn't help the defense per se, but it would mean that the offense could maybe stay on the field longer and not put the defense out there. I really want Hargreaves and Ogbah the most, but I think it's unlikely we get both and only get one. 

 

Then again, Castillo typically makes the best of late-round players, so who knows what'll happen. 

 

At the risk fo high-jacking this thread, late round linemen I really like include Taylor Marz and Evan Boehm

[thieverycorporation]

At the risk fo high-jacking this thread, late round linemen I really like include Taylor Marz and Evan Boehm

How do they compare in relation to the top tier talent? How much of a project would they be? 

[RaineV1]

At the risk fo high-jacking this thread, late round linemen I really like include Taylor Marz and Evan Boehm

I think Boehm would be a great lineman to get in the middle of the draft. His size and strength would really fit the type of running game Trestman wants.

[JoeyFlex5]

Silver linings my friend. With Joe I still held out hope for us winning some games. I seriously doubt Schaub will come in and be good for more than 1 win nearly cementing our place in the top 5 of the draft and setting us up for Boyd in the secon

4-12 may not actually cement us in at a top 5 pick, there are alot of teams projected to finish in that range.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Every team excluding the cowboys (didn't even look at their schedule since they have Romo back) have at least 3 winnable games on their schedule. They won't win them all, but I don't see the Titans, Chargers, Browns, 49ers, Cowboys, and Lions all finishing at 4-12 or worse than us. 

[Robbyrobbass]

Rumor today is that he's returning to school.

he is so no need to bring him up