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[News] Late For Work 11/18: Breshad Perriman Just Made Things A Lot More Complicated This Offseason

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Ravens placed C Jeremy Zuttah on injured reserve with a torn pectoral, ending his season.

Zuttah went down in the Week 10 loss to the Jaguars. John Urschel will take over as the Ravens' starting center the rest of the way. Zuttah turns 30 next June and was signed to an extension through 2018 when Baltimore acquired him from the Bucs in March of 2014. Prior to going down, Zuttah had graded out as PFF's No. 8 center, excelling both in the run and pass games.
 
 
 
Nov 18 - 10:59 AM

 

just shows me that we are shutting it down for the season. Im glad that the coaches are realizing the situation... but it still kinda sucks that we arent going to be anything this year. Good for Urschel too well get too see our KO replacement put in work

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The Ravens horribly assessed their wide receiver position this offseason, and they can't afford to do it again next season,%u201D wrote Hensley. %u201CBaltimore has to take the blame for its current situation of starting Kamar Aiken and Chris Givens, both of whom would probably not be starting for another team in the league. The lack of playmakers is the result of a misjudgment by General Manager Ozzie Newsome and the other Ravens' decision-makers.

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Considering that Profootballtalk ran an article this morning about how the Ravens website threw a player under the bus, I don't think it's a good look for the site to make fun of Breshad for his injury.

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As a fan I want to see this team play with fire and let some of the younger guys get some real playing time. This off season clean house with those that don't fit in and get things in order and have a great draft. I truly feel the Ravens will be back with a vengeance next season.

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Ravens did not throw Perriman under the bus. If anything the PR people, Perriman, and his agent threw him under the bus by allowing this to drag this out the way they did it. HAs he spoken to the media? The doctors? Why the silent treatment? The confusion on the details? The people "Protecting" him did this.

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Very funny article. 1st humorous thing is the NFLs weekly evaluation. No one sees them and they probably do not exist. Just more BS from the league. Speaking of BS there is Perriman who is

laughing all the way to the bank this year. It maybe the last we ever see of him. The league is

always talking about getting things right. I guess not in the Ravens case. We will probably see

Morelli's crew this week vs. the Rams.

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Crusader - Would you be saying the same thing had we drafted Kevin White

Have Perriman said anything to the media like White did?  White (leg) acknowledged Tuesday that he still has a long way to go in his recovery from August surgery, Dan Wiederer of the Chicago Tribune reports. (Tue Oct 27)

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Bozo. Team can never have enough top flight wide receivers on board. Stupid article with supposition about nothing. Goofy blather. Got 7 draft picks next year? Get 7 wide receivers. Perriman may or may not ever play. Who knows. I do know Flacco looks like a wasted talent without some quality wide receivers.

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Jeremy Zuttah - C - Ravens

Ravens placed C Jeremy Zuttah on injured reserve with a torn pectoral, ending his season.

Zuttah went down in the Week 10 loss to the Jaguars. John Urschel will take over as the Ravens' starting center the rest of the way. Zuttah turns 30 next June and was signed to an extension through 2018 when Baltimore acquired him from the Bucs in March of 2014. Prior to going down, Zuttah had graded out as PFF's No. 8 center, excelling both in the run and pass games.

Nov 18 - 10:59 AM

Ouch! That one hurt. Zuttah is the second most important player on that line behind Yanda. Time to give young guys reps and hope they develop into studs. Praying Flacco doesn't get squashed back there

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We proved by this past offseason that we can't count on a rookie receiver or a receiver north of 35 to either get on the field or stay on the field. We should assume going in that neither Perriman nor SSS are available to us. If they are, its a bonus. If they are not - and we're not prepared to deal with that - then we'll be doomed to a repeat of 2015.

 

So with respect to our needs, the offseason is not complicated. What will be complicated is how we fill the growing number of holes on this team through a single draft and through FA (when we will, as always, have very little spending money).

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You state "They likely don’t want to give Flacco another lucrative deal..." I hate to break this to you but the 'lucrative' deal is already done. Flacco is simply going to restructure to help the team move money around to lower the cap. They have to pay the man what they already owe or hope he helps them out. BTW, he is easily worth whatever they agree to pay.

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The Ravens horribly assessed their wide receiver position this offseason, and they can't afford to do it again next season,” wrote Hensley. “Baltimore has to take the blame for its current situation of starting Kamar Aiken and Chris Givens, both of whom would probably not be starting for another team in the league. The lack of playmakers is the result of a misjudgment by General Manager Ozzie Newsome and the other Ravens' decision-makers.

 

I have been saying this since 1996..

 

Its time for Givens to be the #1 guy. Aiken is 50/50 on his passes

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Well the Ravens will enter the draft in 2016 with pretty much the same needs as the last draft. This team has had no manner of luck at all since Ray Lewis and Ed Reed walked out the door.

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The NFL is a bunch of cronies rolling in a bunch of money and who don't care a bit about the players who make them money or the fans who provide all that money. The NFL wont ever do anything about poor refs, cheating teams or anything else unless it affects their bottom line which means until fans just say we have had enough and stop supporting the NFL which is what I am going to start doing right now, it will never ever change. No more money, no tickets, no gear, no supporting advertisers, nothing.

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If "our biggest issue is Flacco's contract" then how come Flaccos cap hit in 2015 is $14,500,000 and Rothlisbergers is 17,245,000 ??  Stop being like the rest of the country and blaming Flaccos contract. His contract will be reworked this off season. His cap hit the first three years of the deal were never bad compared to other QB's

If you read the article above, you clearly would see that his contract balloons to $28 Mill next year. And he is not a $20 Million dollar QB. He is good enough to win a SB with a great team, and coaching around him. 

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If you read the article above, you clearly would see that his contract balloons to $28 Mill next year. And he is not a $20 Million dollar QB. He is good enough to win a SB with a great team, and coaching around him. 

Just so we are clear about what the current landscape of QBs in the NFL are:

 

In terms of AAV, there are nine QBs in the league who have an AAV of $20M a season. Given that any given week there's only 32 starting NFL QBs in this league (I'd argue there's less), that's roughly 30% of all QBs.

 

While I'd easily argue that there are precisely zero QBs in the NFL who can win a SB without a good core of players surrounding them and good coaching, at best, there's maybe two on this list... Rodgers and Brees.

 

If we to expand this amount of AAV down a bit (since to me there's practically no difference between a $17-18M QB and a $20M QB), you've basically accounted for most of the starting QB in the league that isn't on a rookie deal, since there are 16 QBs with an AAV of $17M or more.

 

Basically, if you want a QB capable of winning a SB with a good supporting cast around them, the lowest possible amount you can spend (save rookies) is $17-18M a year. 

 

In short, there really isn't many valid argument for him being underpaid at this point. Even when you compare him to his peers, you'll find things that he has that they don't, and thinks that they have that he doesn't. Its an argument that never gets anywhere.

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When Joe signed everyone knew it was a 3 year deal, and the restructure would kick in when the 28 mil year kicks in....Flacco is a team guy, and will restructure so we can get the guys we have to re-sign....

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When Joe signed everyone knew it was a 3 year deal, and the restructure would kick in when the 28 mil year kicks in....Flacco is a team guy, and will restructure so we can get the guys we have to re-sign....

Well, he's a team guy in the sense that he also will likely make more money in 2016 than he is scheduled to make. While his cap hit is north of $28M, he himself is scheduled to make $18M next season.

 

So when he signs an extension, it will almost certainly involve a signing bonus and a 2016 base salary that pays him more than $18M, or he'd likely have no reason to do so.

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"Baltimore banked on a career journeyman in Aiken"

 

A "carreer journeyman" - who's had a whopping number of 3 teams so far in his career...

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Everyone knows all a extension really does is extend the years, he is going to get his money, but the key is the cap space he will save the team next year....

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People need to get off Aikens back, just because he wasn't drafted means nothing....He showed he will play through pain, as he took some serious hits Sunday, and he also is a guy who takes responsibility for his mishaps, which is something i'm sure he learned from SSS....First game he was the featured WR and i think he did a good job, and i expect him to continue to progress, like a lot of the other young players pressed into action....

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Had the blunder by the Refs gone against the Patriots.....they would have been suspended, may be barred from the league. GO RAVENS!

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Everyone knows all a extension really does is extend the years, he is going to get his money, but the key is the cap space he will save the team next year....

Not really. An extension gives him more years AND, in most cases, guarantees him more money. He technically has zero guaranteed money left on his deal, and he would like that to change.

 

The key for the team is creating the cap space. The key for Flacco is getting more guaranteed money on his extension. The two can be done simultaneously, but Joe isn't going to accept getting paid less next season just to reduce the cap number for the team. 

 

He will come out of the deal in better shape than he was before or he won't do the deal at all.

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Well the Ravens will enter the draft in 2016 with pretty much the same needs as the last draft. This team has had no manner of luck at all since Ray Lewis and Ed Reed walked out the door.

The Ravens haven't been really good since their Super Bowl win. Yes they made a nice run last year, but they barely made it to the playoffs. Steve Bisciotti put Harbs on notice last year. Let's see how he handles "this" off-season. One more sub-par year and heads may roll....

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Great title for this article. What position will the Ravens draft first? Will it be for need or best player available? Perriman is an enigma and unproven player. If he gives the Ravens anything next year that will be a plus more than Kindle [an injury bust] was ever able to do.

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